DC2345 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 7 hours ago, KoB2011 said: Do you mind sending some links to what other schools do when they have a player enroll early? Or some sort of research since you seem to have a great grasp on it.... And regardless of what other schools do or don't do, it isn't stupid. We all understand what class Lander is in from a recruiting perspective, but when we talk about CAM failing at recruiting the '21 class it's an incredibly important piece of context that he had a 5-star player commit in that class enroll a year early. If you're opposed to CAM, is your case against him really that weak that you have to twist reality to fit your narrative? What's wrong with having an honest assessment? Kentucky has had early enrollees the last several years as do many other schools. This year they have multiple. That’s just one example but you don’t hear people saying they are part of next years UK class. I don’t blame CAM’s recruiting per say. I blame who he targets at times when the team has certain needs that still haven’t been filled. My issues are more who he plays and his X’s and O’s aren’t the greatest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Kentucky has had early enrollees the last several years as do many other schools. This year they have multiple. That’s just one example but you don’t hear people saying they are part of next years UK class. I don’t blame CAM’s recruiting per say. I blame who he targets at times when the team has certain needs that still haven’t been filled. My issues are more who he plays and his X’s and O’s aren’t the greatest. I don't really talk to Kentucky fans often about recruiting, but they have a completely different model than we do. If that's your baseline for comparison then I'll use your words and say,"that's stupid". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 I’ve booked tickets on the tank train. Get the clueless guy outta here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said: I’ve booked tickets on the tank train. Get the clueless guy outta here This loss is on the players, not Archie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, BGleas said: This loss is on the players, not Archie. It’s been 4 years of this and they are his players. He picked and played them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, BGleas said: This loss is on the players, not Archie. No energy no effort. not sure who thats on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, BGleas said: This loss is on the players, not Archie. It’s on both. Lots of poor coaching decisions in this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Good thing this thread didn’t get deleted, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 For everyone that wanted this thread to die after the Iowa game, games like today are why it hasn’t. I wish we could be consistent enough so that it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier0908! Posted January 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 We’re getting to the point of nearly combining every “post-game” thread with this “fire Archie” thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 New coach? It's under our nose! With our society being so overly PC, why not Teri Moren? At least knows how to motivate her players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 But the Iowa game was a big enough win to allow Archie to keep coaching right? No reason to question him anymore is what I was told because beating Iowa was such an accomplishment lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: It’s on both. Lots of poor coaching decisions in this game Meh. The players didn't play with toughness, that's on them. I never felt it was my coaches job to coax me into playing hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Why is it that this problem with effort continues to come up time and again. It’s year 4 under CAM. That shouldn’t be happening. People said it’s because they were Crean guys before. Well what the problem now. At some point it’s on the coach. He chooses who plays and he’s in charge of getting them ready to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: It’s on both. Lots of poor coaching decisions in this game The only decision I question was sticking with Armaan. Beside that, what other decision(s) did you think we're bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana8585 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: The only decision I question was sticking with Armaan. Beside that, what other decision(s) did you think we're bad? Not playing Geronimo earlier I thought was a mistake with his energy. He played good at Iowa on Thursday to earn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: The only decision I question was sticking with Armaan. Beside that, what other decision(s) did you think we're bad? You absolutely have to extend that game when we were down 3 against the worst shooting free throw team in the big ten. There were 40 seconds left and basically IU got one possession at the end and that one didn’t matter. Make them continue to make free throws like Iowa did IU Thursday and not giving Jordan any run earlier in the game I thought was a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, Indiana8585 said: Not playing Geronimo earlier He played. Maybe not enough, but he did play. I have to say, his play and Khristian's play were 2 really bright spots for us. At the end, you want your experience in there. But I have a feeling it won't be long until those kids we have will be in the pressure situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Why is it that this problem with effort continues to come up time and again. It’s year 4 under CAM. That shouldn’t be happening. People said it’s because they were Crean guys before. Well what the problem now. At some point it’s on the coach. He chooses who plays and he’s in charge of getting them ready to play. This is my biggest issue. Their body language is that of someone’s who doesn’t want to play. I said earlier that TJD not running back on defense was his tribute to Justin Smith I guess. That aggravates the heck out of me. He’s not the only one but he’s suppose to be the “star”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: You absolutely have to extend that game when we were down 3 against the worst shooting free throw team in the big ten. There were 40 seconds left and basically IU got one possession at the end and that one didn’t matter. Make them continue to make free throws like Iowa did IU Thursday and not giving Jordan any run earlier in the game I thought was a mistake. Not sure about what point, specifically, you're taking about... If you're down 3 (one possession) with more than 50 seconds on the clock why would you foul? Get a stop and you have time to tie it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, BGleas said: Meh. The players didn't play with toughness, that's on them. I never felt it was my coaches job to coax me into playing hard. But when they don’t they need to be held accountable and they continually aren’t. They are kids and still learning but you have to teach them in ways that will stick. I’m a firm believer in bench riding teaches lessons. I like that he did that to TJD in the first half. I thought he should’ve done it again in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: Not sure about what point, specifically, you're taking about... Fouling, down 3 with 40 seconds left you start fouling the worst free throw shooting team in the big ten to get more possessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 The roller coaster rides continues. This past 10 days sums up CAM tenure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, IUwins0708 said: Fouling, down 3 with 40 seconds left you start fouling the worst free throw shooting team in the big ten to get more possessions If you're down 3 (one possession) with more than 40 seconds on the clock why would you foul? Get a stop and you have time to tie it. Even a 50% FT shooter can ice the game if he fulfills his average... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, Billingsley99 said: The roller coaster rides continues. This past 10 days sums up CAM tenure It really does. I was optimistic today until I saw the effort level in the first half. They just went through the motions again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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