BDB Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bustout said: Archie’s model from day 1 has been - “get old and stay old”. Look at Wisconsin and Iowa ... that philosophy works. I know we all want to see it play out faster, but next year will be the telling year if TJD comes back. And if TJD doesn’t come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 Remove Ostrom and hire Cheaney. You want a guy that kids relate to and will work their tail off for? He’s already done it here once. Remove them all IDC anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, BDB said: And if TJD doesn’t come back? Logan + Brunk + Transfer to take minutes. With that said, that will be Archie’s biggest recruit - try to get him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Inequality said: Remove Ostrom and hire Cheaney. You want a guy that kids relate to and will work their tail off for? He’s already done it here once. Remove them all IDC anymore Cheaney has a pretty good job right now being on the Pacers staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Robby Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 10 hours ago, IU Scott said: Turned out well but just responding the post about that being our last good class we brought in. Just like VO and Sheehey class was highly ranked but turned out well. Agree. Didn't mean to sound harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 Who would’ve ever thought 25 years ago that we would have IU ranked in football, baseball, and women’s basketball but men’s basketball isn’t anywhere close to that. I would’ve laughed in your face had you told me that in 1995-1996. Sad times as Hoosier Men’s Basketball fans. I left out soccer because they are always good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 12 hours ago, AshtonHershey said: We need to take advantage of the changing times. Move TJD to the women's team and start collecting trophies! He/she/they'll be unstoppable. Thing is, he'd have to be a transgender for that to happen..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JABBATHEHOOSIER Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 I am so tired of the inconsistency. You can't beat a Top 5 ranked Iowa team on the road and then come home and lose to Rutgers and blame the talent level. This is a coaching issue. I hate the thought of jettisoning a coach after 4 years, but if inconsistency and effort are still an issue in year 4, who else is at fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 16 hours ago, Bustout said: Is this: 1) Him really focusing on kids from the state and maybe missing out on more talented kids elsewhere?Doubtful. I don't think any of his misses are from prioritizing an in-state kid over an out of state miss. 2) Evaluating kids who would make a great team at Dayton and not necessarily the B1G?I would hope not. If that's the case he/we're in big trouble. 3) Maybe can’t get the best kids or isn’t the best evaluator?Out the 3 this is the one I would give most credence to. The best kids aren't choosing us for several reasons. Excluding the ones we barely got or weren't involved with and just looking at recent misses the glaring common issues to me are role, style of play, and getting to NBA asap (Kaufman, Miller, Brooks). Not sure about talent evaluation, but I like the guys he's brought in but some of the transfers out (Anderson over Henry especially) would have to be deemed evaluation misses. This freshman class seems like they will be extremely solid and most of them are 4 year guys. My guesses in bold... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, cybergates said: My guesses in bold... Good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 15 hours ago, Bustout said: Logan + Brunk + Transfer to take minutes. With that said, that will be Archie’s biggest recruit - try to get him back. Brunk may never play again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 Wait until Archie gets his players, they said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Indykev said: Brunk may never play again. I hope he comes back (pun intended). Either way - I envision an incoming transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippopotamo Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Indykev said: Wait until Archie gets his players, they said. The big ten was also terrible his first year. Not really a surprising statistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, JABBATHEHOOSIER said: I am so tired of the inconsistency. You can't beat a Top 5 ranked Iowa team on the road and then come home and lose to Rutgers and blame the talent level. This is a coaching issue. I hate the thought of jettisoning a coach after 4 years, but if inconsistency and effort are still an issue in year 4, who else is at fault? We all are. I honestly thought Iowa was the turning point for this season and quite possibly Archie’s tenure. Unless they basically lose out though, I think he’ll be back next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Hippopotamo said: The big ten was also terrible his first year. Not really a surprising statistic. The other 3 years are the ones to be concerned about. Archie is a defensive coach and we are bottom feeders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bustout said: We all are. I honestly thought Iowa was the turning point for this season and quite possibly Archie’s tenure. Unless they basically lose out though, I think he’ll be back next year. Unless he quits no one is paying that buy out, he will be back next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippopotamo Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 I kind of view it this way. If someone finishes 5th place in a marathon running a 2:30:00, but then 3 years later they finish 9th but run it in a 2:20:00, is that really worse? I’m not thrilled IU is finishing in the lower half of the big ten and the inconsistency is really frustrating to watch, but the team is improving every single year, even though it’s slow. This overreaction in both directions by the fan base is honestly pretty unappealing to be attached to. We should be frustrated by a loss to Rutgers at home, and we should be excited by a win at #4 Iowa, but the consensus of our coach’s future shouldn’t be based on each individual game that the fan base consistently says is a “must win.” Why don’t we wait until the end of the year and see where this team ends up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said: I kind of view it this way. If someone finishes 5th place in a marathon running a 2:30:00, but then 3 years later they finish 9th but run it in a 2:20:00, is that really worse? I’m not thrilled IU is finishing in the lower half of the big ten and the inconsistency is really frustrating to watch, but the team is improving every single year, even though it’s slow. This overreaction in both directions by the fan base is honestly pretty unappealing to be attached to. We should be frustrated by a loss to Rutgers at home, and we should be excited by a win at #4 Iowa, but the consensus of our coach’s future shouldn’t be based on each individual game that the fan base consistently says is a “must win.” Why don’t we wait until the end of the year and see where this team ends up? Sincerely. Thank you... My other question to those already on the fire Archie train, is... Knowing that it's almost a certainty that he'll be back next year, does that mean the beeyotching will continue for the next year and a half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, Indykev said: Unless he quits no one is paying that buy out, he will be back next season. Unless someone else is stupid enough to hire him. You never know. Crean is getting over 3M a year from Georgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Sincerely. Thank you... My other question to those already on the fire Archie train, is... Knowing that it's almost a certainty that he'll be back next year, does that mean the beeyotching will continue for the next year and a half? I don't think you had found us yet at the end of Crean.... but to answer your question, yes. Most of this group once they make up their mind someone isn't the guy will never stop making sure we all know how they feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said: I kind of view it this way. If someone finishes 5th place in a marathon running a 2:30:00, but then 3 years later they finish 9th but run it in a 2:20:00, is that really worse? I’m not thrilled IU is finishing in the lower half of the big ten and the inconsistency is really frustrating to watch, but the team is improving every single year, even though it’s slow. This overreaction in both directions by the fan base is honestly pretty unappealing to be attached to. We should be frustrated by a loss to Rutgers at home, and we should be excited by a win at #4 Iowa, but the consensus of our coach’s future shouldn’t be based on each individual game that the fan base consistently says is a “must win.” Why don’t we wait until the end of the year and see where this team ends up? Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 31 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said: I kind of view it this way. If someone finishes 5th place in a marathon running a 2:30:00, but then 3 years later they finish 9th but run it in a 2:20:00, is that really worse? I’m not thrilled IU is finishing in the lower half of the big ten and the inconsistency is really frustrating to watch, but the team is improving every single year, even though it’s slow. This overreaction in both directions by the fan base is honestly pretty unappealing to be attached to. We should be frustrated by a loss to Rutgers at home, and we should be excited by a win at #4 Iowa, but the consensus of our coach’s future shouldn’t be based on each individual game that the fan base consistently says is a “must win.” Why don’t we wait until the end of the year and see where this team ends up? So we justify it by saying everyone else is getting better? I wonder if my boss would buy that? I could get 4 years to be less than mediocre. Thanks for that I will see what he thinks. The fact that we even say things like this truly show that we as a fan base and program have no real expectations. We're number 10 but everyone ahead of us are really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JABBATHEHOOSIER Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 40 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said: I kind of view it this way. If someone finishes 5th place in a marathon running a 2:30:00, but then 3 years later they finish 9th but run it in a 2:20:00, is that really worse? I’m not thrilled IU is finishing in the lower half of the big ten and the inconsistency is really frustrating to watch, but the team is improving every single year, even though it’s slow. This overreaction in both directions by the fan base is honestly pretty unappealing to be attached to. We should be frustrated by a loss to Rutgers at home, and we should be excited by a win at #4 Iowa, but the consensus of our coach’s future shouldn’t be based on each individual game that the fan base consistently says is a “must win.” Why don’t we wait until the end of the year and see where this team ends up? Yes, in fact it is worse. Times changes, situations change, you have to adapt to the current environment in order to compete and succeed or else you become complacent and others will pass you up. That's the essence of competitive culture whether it be in sports or business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyHoosier Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: So we justify it by saying everyone else is getting better? I wonder if my boss would buy that? I could get 4 years to be less than mediocre. Thanks for that I will see what he thinks. The fact that we even say things like this truly show that we as a fan base and program have no real expectations. We're number 10 but everyone ahead of us are really good. This all day. Our expectations at Indiana should be top 4 in conference, sweet 16 or better (to clarify - maybe half the time), and consistently ranked in the top 25. I DO NOT CARE HOW GOOD RUTGERS OR MINNESOTA MAY BE. Comparing ourselves to those two programs is already admitting defeat. It could be the administration does not have those goals, but I don't think it's asking too much from this program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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