JugRox Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Apparently Dakich new this was a terrible hire 4 years ago. Said Archie was hired purely because he could be controlled. Couldn't control Crean anymore. Interesting. Congrats to Dan for still having a job.... lol Take what he says with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 This is why Archie needs to go after BTT. https://www.hammerandrails.com/2021/3/6/22313851/fire-archie-miller-contract-extension-allies-inc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Feathery said: Rumor is Archie wants out. If you’re not happy somewhere then money doesn’t matter. We heard the same about Crean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 46 minutes ago, GaloisGroupe said: Then you are a better person (or much younger) than me. I am completely bitter that IU has not been consistently relevant since the early '90s... but not much I can do about it. 67 years old. I have too many other things that I would rather spend my energy on. Archie's situation is totally out of my control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, addictedtoIU said: This is why Archie needs to go after BTT. https://www.hammerandrails.com/2021/3/6/22313851/fire-archie-miller-contract-extension-allies-inc I guess Miller just doesn't get enough credit for dedication to education: Quote · He clearly has concern for the academic side of things, as he makes sure his players get extra class time with no games after mid-March. He is making sure they go pro in something other than sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, BADGERVOL said: There’s NO scenario where he would leave $10,000,000 on the table. At most if he wanted out it would be negotiated down but he’d still get a HUGE chunk. So IF he’s not happy and would like to leave and start again, would you take 7-7.5 to do that or go thru hell to get 10? Plus you’d get the salary of where you’d go. So depending how the buyout would work he might love the chance to leave. Didn't Crean still have 3 or 5 million on his buyout but it was negotiated down to around 2? I'm trying to remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 5 hours ago, IUFLA said: You and I have been through all of this before, and like I told Scott, walk the same road too many times and all it does is turn into mud... My own thought is, Coach Miller has been incredibly unlucky in his tenure here...Be it Hunter's injury or picking the wrong Indiana kid (Anderson over Henry...and to be fair, both Rob #135 and Damezi # 124 were ranked higher by the recruiting services than Aaron # 140) or Joey and Armaan's injuries this year, he just hasn't had the best of luck... I think he deserves one more crack at it...And I'm on record saying that if he's .500 in the B1G next year and struggling to make the tournament, then fire up the hiring bus... Wanting change just for the sake of change is mind boggling to me...Having experienced that a time or 2, it rarely winds up as any kind of progress... Hunter's illness was very unlucky, agreed. "Picking the wrong Indiana kid" is 100% an indictment on Archie. That's one of the most important parts of his job. I don't think he deserves one more crack at it at all. I think it's possible he may get one and if he does, I'll hope he turns it around. I still really like Archie, but hard to use a word like deserve to describe him getting another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, go_iu_bb said: I guess Miller just doesn't get enough credit for dedication to education: So I guess Archie should be seen as an educator first, and a coach second. Then, IU doesn't need to pay him as much. Joking aside, other things than basketball are beautiful if and only if he is a winner. Coach Knight did his best to make sure his players graduate with degrees, too. Lots of fans thought it was a beautiful thing, but more importantly, he was a big time winner. So his dedication to education was an icing on the cake. A losing basketball coach's dedication to education...well, it's a good thing, but it's still not coach's main task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, addictedtoIU said: So I guess Archie should be seen as an educator first, and a coach second. Then, IU doesn't need to pay him as much. Joking aside, other things than basketball are beautiful if and only if he is a winner. Coach Knight did his best to make sure his players graduate with degrees, too. Lots of fans thought it was a beautiful thing, but more importantly, he was a big time winner. So his dedication to education was an icing on the cake. A losing basketball coach's dedication to education...well, it's a good thing, but it's still not coach's main task. You say this as though I'm defending Miller and that makes me laugh IRL. Did you read the quote or the link that it's from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, go_iu_bb said: You say this as though I'm defending Miller and that makes me laugh IRL. Did you read the quote or the link that it's from? Maybe you were sarcastic and I misunderstood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, addictedtoIU said: Maybe you were sarcastic and I misunderstood? Very much so. The quote I was referring to basically says he shows his dedication to education by missing the postseason so his players can go to class and that they need to go to class because he's not going to turn them into pros. Here's the quote again: Quote · He clearly has concern for the academic side of things, as he makes sure his players get extra class time with no games after mid-March. He is making sure they go pro in something other than sports. I thought it was obviously a joke but I guess not. Mid-March is when the BTT ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: Apparently Dakich new this was a terrible hire 4 years ago. Said Archie was hired purely because he could be controlled. Couldn't control Crean anymore. Interesting. Apparently he forgot to mention it during this interview and said "I think we've got a really good coach in there"(6:40) and other positive things about Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 I have an agenda I want change for changes sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Shapopojoe said: I love all the hate thrown at Dakich but he’s making a good point....call him up Sofa coaches...dispute what he is saying....love the guy...we need more people who speak honestly as far as I can tell, he made 3 points Crean should not have been fired IU should have hired an IU guy The Cubs might not have enough pitching Which one of those am I supposed to think is a good point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, 5fouls said: as far as I can tell, he made 3 points Crean should not have been fired IU should have hired an IU guy The Cubs might not have enough pitching Which one of those am I supposed to think is a good point? i'm definitely worried about the Cubs pitching this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsStoller Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: as far as I can tell, he made 3 points Crean should not have been fired IU should have hired an IU guy The Cubs might not have enough pitching Which one of those am I supposed to think is a good point? Not to get too far off the point here, again, but I sure am going to miss seeing Kyle Schwarber in a Cub uniform this summer. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, Shapopojoe said: Well, you are not paying attention obviously....your hatred of the guy blinds your critical thinking or some shit...hell, I don’t know...I gotta dictate the whole conversation for you? Please do. Dan rambles on and on about nothing. his main point of the whole conversation was that an IU guy should have been hired instead of Miller. Although he didn't specifically say it, you could tell he thought it should have been Alford. Please enlighten me on how you interpret it differently. And, by the way, I disagree with his premise that it needed to be an IU guy. You hire the best candidate, regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsStoller Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, NCHoosier32 said: i'm definitely worried about the Cubs pitching this season. Not even going to discuss the Reds pitching, from what I've heard. Carry on. Again! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, NCHoosier32 said: i'm definitely worried about the Cubs pitching this season. Agreed. But, Dan's interview was in 2017, the year after they won the Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fundamentals Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Mozart = IU coaching job Antonio Salieri = Dan Dakich Dakich is not a self-aware person. This guy had such an overinflated view of himself he truly thinks he should have gotten the job after Sampson. That may be due to his only head coaching gig at the powerhouse Bowling Green, at which he truly was amazing. Uh, no. He is consumed with jealousy, and most everything that comes from his pie hole is contaminated with the effects of not having made peace with the matter for 20 years. He is a loose cannon idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Agreed. But, Dan's interview was in 2017, the year after they won the Series. ah missed that. still can't understand what IU guy would make a great choice for our coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Shapopojoe said: “What about Archie Miller is tremendous?” ”..play up to a standard” Conversation with Greenspan about not calling Alford and why they didn’t....total agree,ent with him there... ”IU has become like any other university with the exception of a select few” Just because he called Archie a good coach does not mean he agreed with the hire. He obviously did not. He wanted an IU guy and could not have been more clear if he was holding a sign that said so. As usual, Dakich was speaking out of both sides of his mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fundamentals Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, Shapopojoe said: You forgot IMO at the end of that...pretty sure the guy knows more about basketball and the program than 99% of us....instead of being butthurt about his personality, again, dispute his comments...break them down for us... I appreciate your challenge. Posting on a message board, like you do, I am not the least bit interested in a direct response. His history is well-documented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Shapopojoe said: Dakich “IU should be winning 24 games every year” ”Loves program heart and soul...” ”Why haven’t players developed?” ”Dolson should be talking to former players and coaches and not National guys” ”We tried it for 21 years..hate Alford...hate Bob knight...hate Dakich...it’s not working” Which video are you referencing. I'm referencing the interview that was linked from the day Archie was HIRED. Not anything from today. Dolson was not AD then. Dan basically did a hatchet job on Fred Glass in the one I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Shapopojoe said: You forgot IMO at the end of that...pretty sure the guy knows more about basketball and the program than 99% of us....instead of being butthurt about his personality, again, dispute his comments...break them down for us... Didn't know DD posted on this site, saw him on rivals but not here LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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