NCHoosier32 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 9 hours ago, IU Scott said: My question would be if we bring him back for a 5th year then what does he have to do next year to keep his job. After next year you will have to extend him or fire him.. If you don't think he can meet that expectation for next year what good would it be to bring him back. To me if you bring him back next year then it should be for good because firing him next year will put us back even farther. yeah, we definitely went round and round with this question already, but this is what i was thinking about today too. i mean it seems like logically there's no way he should be back next year, but if he is and we have a surprisingly very very good season, then what? personally i am still in the boat that although i'd be shocked, i would be happy if i change wouldn't be needed. exactly what is that season? i'm not sure. top 3 in B1G maybe? Sweet 16 maybe? pass the eye test. recruiting looking promising? i don't know. that all seems so far fetched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Seeking6 said: With all the respect in the world because of your posting history. I'll say this. I know several $300k a year families that donate about $2500 a year besides buying tickets. The money you refer is Cook $. He's the guy that messengered the $750k buyout for Sampson....he's 1 of about 8-9 to have enough juice to actually influence a program. No offense at all. Just saying this whole donor thing really gets overblown. The university receives $50M a year from TV. You think they give a rats a-- about a dude from Indy that donates $50k per year in cash?? Just doesn't happen. Actually it doesn’t get overblown. But we will agree to disagree. There are more than 10 “high level” donors who have the money to help with this buyout if that’s the route they choose. Money is really, never a problem for premiere universities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 9 hours ago, 5fouls said: And......I was referring to the Cooks, , Skjodts, Cubans, etc. Re-read what I said. Mellencamp is another HUGE on for basketball. Andy Mohr is another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: Mellencamp is another HUGE on for basketball. Andy Mohr is another Ken nunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cutter said: Ken nunn Yes! Plenty of money if it’s needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 27 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: Yes! Plenty of money if it’s needed. Yes I agree sometimes I think for awhile now the athletic department is more worried about how it looks rather than striving to be successful. I think you are right the money will be there if they ask the ones who haven’t already offered up to now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 11 hours ago, Brass Cannon said: Was in that situation last year April 16th. Got axed to boost the stock price. I worked up in Lafayette. I had a return to do at the local autozone so I did that because I didn’t know when else I would be in Lafayette and figured we would need the money. Then I sat in my car deciding to drive home with or without calling. It was terrible. That being said Archie has already gotten 12 million and is guaranteed 10 million more from IU if he chooses to sit on his butt. He gonna be fine. Sorry to hear that. Been there myself. I do understand part of what you say. When you lose you job as the only income and have a very sick child we literally lost it all and started from nothing. Like most of us we were not fortunate enough to have ever had that kind of money in the bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Cutter said: Yes I agree sometimes I think for awhile now the athletic department is more worried about how it looks rather than striving to be successful. I think you are right the money will be there if they ask the ones who haven’t already offered up to now Plus it’s not like they need the 10 million the day he would be let go. As Brass as said it’s over time and any employment is deducted as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: Plus it’s not like they need the 10 million the day he would be let go. As Brass as said it’s over time and any employment is deducted as well. Yes 10 million sounds scary but it will only be a fraction of that and the big money people I am sure are aware of how it works. And I think throwing 3 million a year at someone who is failing is far more expensive in the long run for whatever buyout money is really involved and the paying top dollar to a coach who has been successful at these levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 https://indiana.forums.rivals.com/threads/laughed-off-the-floor.207396/page-3 Want to know how far we've fallen? The 8 fans that Rutgers has were all on an IU forum talking smack and there was really no argument you could have against them... We have fans of a team that have finished 12, 7, and are currently 7th in the BIG who can come and legitimately claim they have a better team. Freaking Rutgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Cutter said: Yes I agree sometimes I think for awhile now the athletic department is more worried about how it looks rather than striving to be successful. Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. IU is about optics. If Assembly Hall is full and they can show some highlight videos of players that haven't been on campus in a decade plus before games, they are all good. They only care about winning when losing punctures the facade. It has to get ugly before they pull the plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 So. Much. Smoke Does IU have the stones to do it is the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippopotamo Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 If we lose to Purdue again (I don’t see how we don’t) then I think the fire will be too hot to let Archie coach a 5th year. Or maybe that’s just what I’m telling myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said: If we lose to Purdue again (I don’t see how we don’t) then I think the fire will be too hot to let Archie coach a 5th year. Or maybe that’s just what I’m telling myself. What do you mean if? 😕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said: If we lose to Purdue again (I don’t see how we don’t) then I think the fire will be too hot to let Archie coach a 5th year. Or maybe that’s just what I’m telling myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hoosierinbham Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: What do you mean if? 😕 Sadly true. Tough to defend your coaching success when you've NEVER beaten our rival. Especially considering they haven't been anything special during CAM's tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, Hoosierinbham said: Sadly true. Tough to defend your coaching success when you've NEVER beaten our rival. Especially considering they haven't been anything special during CAM's tenure. Purdue had a second place finish Archie's first year, co champions his second and an Elite 8 appearance isn't "special?" It sure is in West Lafayette... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 I was firmly on the fence after IU lost to PU last year when RMK returned. I like the guy personally and dont think hes a bad coach. Just dont think hes fit for IU anymore. I've tried to stay positive and still hope for the best but I'm out of patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, IUFLA said: A second place finish Archie's first year, co champions his second and an Elite 8 appearance isn't "special?" It sure is in West Lafayette... When did Archie do that at IU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, IUFLA said: A second place finish Archie's first year, co champions his second and an Elite 8 appearance isn't "special?" It sure is in West Lafayette... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: When did Archie do that at IU? I didn't say he did...Responding to @Hoosierinbham saying Purdue hasn't done anything special during Archie's tenure... Poorly worded...I revised it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I didn't say he did...Responding to @Hoosierinbham saying Purdue hasn't done anything special during Archie's tenure... Poorly worded...I revised it... Even a blind squirrel gets a nut every once in a while. Maybe we beat Michigan, then PU and keep MSU from making the tourney and CAM is back. Short of that call the UHAUL. Sure there would be plenty of people willing to help pack it. Like I said I am never for someone losing their job but this was not a good fit from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Purdue had a second place finish Archie's first year, co champions his second and an Elite 8 appearance isn't "special?" It sure is in West Lafayette... And yet you defend the coach who can’t beat them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 29 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: So. Much. Smoke Does IU have the stones to do it is the question? Are you hearing something? I ask because we have 100+ pages of fan angst and some media questioning, but unless I'm forgetting something, I have yet to hear any "leaks" or insider info that change is actually a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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