KoB2011 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, John S said: nobody wants a bad hire. but, thats not a certainty. If Arch comes back, its a certainty we see more of the same, and fanbase is furious and shrinking. I agree, but if you put out feelers that waiting a year could result in getting a Tier A guy you wait. That's an easy decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I agree, but if you put out feelers that waiting a year could result in getting a Tier A guy you wait. That's an easy decision. Can’t suck again for another season for a maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Can’t suck again for another season for a maybe I'm not personally advocating for that, but sure you can. If you feel like you've got say a 30% chance at Brad Stevens by waiting, you'd really be happy to move on this year and hire someone like Alford? That's clearly a hypothetical, and I'm not actually convinced Stevens is anymore of a sure thing that several others being discussed, but you get the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 48 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Because a bad hire sets us back a heck of a lot more than waiting on more year to make a good hire. No guarantee waiting means a better hire. It will be the same people making the decision with the same pool of candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 Same, He’ll be back because of financial reasons, most likely the buyout. But I do not know overall, so I won’t be surprised if he comes back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUProfessor Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 The season ended like 36 hours ago. Give it a week or so before assuming he's coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 hours ago, HoosierFaithful said: I think our administration will, without question, kick the tires on potential candidates. I'm not sure they will get all the mechanics lined up to actually make a move, in which case I would support Archie being back. I don't want to make a move for the sake of making a move. Bringing back Archie will cause a toxic atmosphere so I see no way they could bring him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Bucks Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 39 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I agree, but if you put out feelers that waiting a year could result in getting a Tier A guy you wait. That's an easy decision. I guess I don’t get what a tier 1 guy could say to make you feel confident he will come next year. If he would definitely come next year then what prevents them from coming now? If a tier 1 guys says no but maybe next year I am not sure you wait on a maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Bringing back Archie will cause a toxic atmosphere so I see no way they could bring him back. Until he starts winning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, KoB2011 said: Because a bad hire sets us back a heck of a lot more than waiting on more year to make a good hire. What coach wouldn't be available this but would be next year. Our candidates would be the same no matter when we fire him so do it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Shapopojoe said: You meant to say IF....fixed it And I'm ok with that... Just a general statement that goes with what I've said all along... Winning cures all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, Feathery said: No guarantee waiting means a better hire. It will be the same people making the decision with the same pool of candidates. This is objectively false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: Same, He’ll be back because of financial reasons, most likely the buyout. But I do not know overall, so I won’t be surprised if he comes back According to insiders the money has been donated for the buyout LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, 8Bucks said: I guess I don’t get what a tier 1 guy could say to make you feel confident he will come next year. If he would definitely come next year then what prevents them from coming now? If a tier 1 guys says no but maybe next year I am not sure you wait on a maybe. "I'm open to the discussion but I'd like to finish my season before making a decision either way." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: What coach wouldn't be available this but would be next year. Our candidates would be the same no matter when we fire him so do it now. This is false. The notion that the situation would be the exact same in a year for all candidates is extremely silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Until he starts winning... He hasn't won in 4 years so I am pretty comfortable with the fact he won't start winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Bucks Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: "I'm open to the discussion but I'd like to finish my season before making a decision either way." That works this year not waiting till next year to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: This is false. The notion that the situation would be the exact same in a year for all candidates is extremely silly. Maybe that is your opinion but in my opinion the candidates would be the same. You can't say an opinion is false but your opinon is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 Just now, IU Scott said: He hasn't won in 4 years so I am pretty comfortable with the fact he won't start winning That's your opinion, and that's fine... We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: This is objectively false. We aren’t going with an up and comer. So it’s the same pool of nba and power 5 coaches with a former player as the backup plan. It’s objectively false to say a move this year is for the sake of making a move when it’s the worst stretch of IU basketball in 100 years. A change is needed bc Archie has failed. Hiring the right coach will be Dolson this year and Dolson next year. Dolson’s advisors this year with be the same as next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 If Archie comes back are a new coach comes in, what’s the roster going to look like? How many scholarships do we have open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo123 Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, KoB2011 said: Because a bad hire sets us back a heck of a lot more than waiting on more year to make a good hire. And I say better to have an interim for a year then bring him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, OLDIUFAN said: If Archie comes back are a new coach comes in, what’s the roster going to look like? How many scholarships do we have open. I'm about to fire up the DeLorean and jet ahead about 6 months. I'll come back in a little bit and let you know what our roster looks like for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, jojo123 said: And I say better to have an interim for a year then bring him back. Has there ever been a case of a school firing their coach in March and hiring an interim coach for a year? Has that ever happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, OLDIUFAN said: If Archie comes back are a new coach comes in, what’s the roster going to look like? How many scholarships do we have open. Good question...right now with what could come back we have 3 open schollys. If Trayce goes but Joey comes back, still at 3. I don't know how it is now, but it use to be you could practice all the way up to the end of the NCAA tournament, even if you were done with actual game play for the year...be interesting to know if that's still the case and if we were still practicing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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