dbmhoosier Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 At this point I'd fine with bringing in Alford assuming the hail mary candidates all say no. He can't possibly do any worse and at least he knows how to teach offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, dbmhoosier said: At this point I'd fine with bringing in Alford assuming the hail mary candidates all say no. He can't possibly do any worse and at least he knows how to teach offense. What happened to yer boy Pearl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, IUFLA said: If you're down 3 (one possession) with more than 40 seconds on the clock why would you foul? Get a stop and you have time to tie it. Even a 50% FT shooter can ice the game if he fulfills his average... Not many coaches think that way at all. If IU was playing good defense and had a Steve Alford shooting the ball then I agree with you. Plus a 50% free throw shooters percentage drops significantly in crunch time situations. As do all free throw shooters percentages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, IUFLA said: What happened to yer boy Pearl? IU would never hire him. He'd be a major success though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFaithful Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Everyone play nice. Just because IU won or lost doesn’t make you any more of a genius than the next poster. Plenty to discuss while still being civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, dbmhoosier said: IU would never hire him. He'd be a major success though. I agree with both. He brings a ton of energy that the kids feed off of but IU wouldn’t do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: It really does. I was optimistic today until I saw the effort level in the first half. They just went through the motions again. More times than not unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: I agree with both. He brings a ton of energy that the kids feed off of but IU wouldn’t do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Living in Evansville, I'd love to see it happen. Fans of University of Southern Indiana have fond memories of him when he led the USI Screaming Eagles to a National Championship!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, IUFLA said: The only decision I question was sticking with Armaan. Beside that, what other decision(s) did you think we're bad? A team that shoots 57% from FT line foul with 41 left immediately instead of playing for a stop and 1 opportunity. Extend the game. I was screaming at the radio to foul but no one listened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Doesn’t Dolson have a connection to Alford? If they can’t land any of the top candidates I wouldn’t be surprised if a change is made and Alford finally gets a call whenever the administration finally decides it’s time to make a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Billingsley99 said: A team that shoots 57% from FT line foul with 41 left immediately instead of playing for a stop and 1 opportunity. Extend the game. I was screaming at the radio to foul but no one listened I’ve been saying this, you absolutely have to extend the game! Hell even if they are good free throw shooters you do it! Pressure changes everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Not sure about what point, specifically, you're taking about... If you're down 3 (one possession) with more than 50 seconds on the clock why would you foul? Get a stop and you have time to tie it. I have to say on this you are wrong. 41 seconds left. Foul get 3 or 4 cracks at it. Instead they got 1 down 4. Play the percentages if no assistant coach was telling him then that is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: IU would never hire him. He'd be a major success though. He's not burning it up this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Billingsley99 said: I have to say on this you are wrong. 41 seconds left. Foul get 3 or 4 cracks at it. Instead they got 1 down 4. Play the percentages if no assistant coach was telling him then that is sad. Why give them the opportunity to get free points? That's insane to me. Get the stop and you'll have your shot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: He's not burning it up this year... Neither is Cal, Coach K, Izzo, etc. The point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Neither is Cal, Coach K, Izzo, etc. The point? You were cackling for him last year, and now you've changed ponies...to Alford for God's sake... I love Steve, but there's a reason he's at Nevada... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, IUFLA said: Why give them the opportunity to get free points? That's insane to me. Get the stop and you'll have your shot... U get 1 shot. We were in bonus not double. They shoot 57 percent as a team. Analytics tell you to, game feel tells you to. Every coaching handbook says to experience says to. If you don't get stop game over. Even if they hit both you are still a 2 possession game. You have to extend it if they miss you have plenty of time to take a quick 2. Most teams give up the quick 2 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, IUFLA said: You were cackling for him last year, and now you've changed ponies...to Alford for God's sake... I love Steve, but there's a reason he's at Nevada... Alford would be far from my first choice. But IU would never hire my top guys of the realistic candidates like Marshall or Pearl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Billingsley99 said: U get 1 shot. We were in bonus not double. They shoot 57 percent as a team. Analytics tell you to, game feel tells you to. Every coaching handbook says to experience says to. If you don't get stop game over. Even if they hit both you are still a 2 possession game. You have to extend it if they miss you have plenty of time to take a quick 2. Most teams give up the quick 2 anyway. And they shoot 57% in normal circumstances not crunch time in a close game! I don’t know any coaches who don’t extend the game anymore. It just makes the most sense. In the 80s and 90s not many if any did this. Now it’s the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Billingsley99 said: U get 1 shot. We were in bonus not double. They shoot 57 percent as a team. Analytics tell you to, game feel tells you to. Every coaching handbook says to experience says to. If you don't get stop game over. Even if they hit both you are still a 2 possession game. You have to extend it if they miss you have plenty of time to take a quick 2. Most teams give up the quick 2 anyway. I'll agree to disagree here... Every coach I've ever heard, sans maybe Valvano, says if you have a one possession game you don't foul...you trust your D to get you that final shot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 55 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: It’s on both. Lots of poor coaching decisions in this game The glaring one was not fouling late, but aside from that I thought the issues throughout the game were effort related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I'll agree to disagree here... Every coach I've ever heard, sans maybe Valvano, says if you have a one possession game you don't foul...you trust your D to get you that final shot... It was a terrible decision against a poor free throw shooting team. Playing defense requires a high level of effort and execution to 1) defend, 2) rebound and 3) go down and hit a three. Our team didn't look like it had that in them today, so start playing the math to your favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, IUFLA said: I'll agree to disagree here... Every coach I've ever heard, sans maybe Valvano, says if you have a one possession game you don't foul...you trust your D to get you that final shot... I have never any in the past 20 years that does not extend the game. We are not good enough to get 1 must stop and a must 3 to go to OT. only chance was to extend the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: And they shoot 57% in normal circumstances not crunch time in a close game! I don’t know any coaches who don’t extend the game anymore. It just makes the most sense. In the 80s and 90s not many if any did this. Now it’s the norm. I think it's situational. If you're talking about a team that shoots 75% I like playing defense there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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