Bustout Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, dgambill said: For millions. He will get drafted and get his big contract and he will get personal coaches and have all day no school interference to help him improve. He will play better competition then college as well. But I bet he plays nba as well. He moves his feet and can protect the rim. It’s a myth that all nba bigs can shoot. Montrez Harrell, Capella...lots of bigs can’t shoot a lick. I really hope the fact that he’s probably a year away from getting a degree and he’s a border line draft pick (end of round 2). Look at Garza last year - performed Way better than TJD this year and came back. Granted, TJD May be a better pro, but hopefully TJD gets feedback and wants to come back to improve his draft stock AND get a degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, dgambill said: That’s the thing...Trayce is almost certainly gone. So where does that leave us??? 8th in B1G again? You think it’s like 95% he’s gone? I know nothing, but based off his play, I think it’s closer to 50/50 personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Bustout said: I really hope the fact that he’s probably a year away from getting a degree and he’s a border line draft pick (end of round 2). Look at Garza last year - performed Way better than TJD this year and came back. Granted, TJD May be a better pro, but hopefully TJD gets feedback and wants to come back to improve his draft stock AND get a degree. He can get a degree anytime. He has a lifetime scholarship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, dgambill said: He can get a degree anytime. He has a lifetime scholarship. Understood. But it’s much harder to go back. Would you go back to school at 38 after your NBA career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bustout said: You think it’s like 95% he’s gone? I know nothing, but based off his play, I think it’s closer to 50/50 personally. Kids in college don’t get drafted on their play. Boston at UK won’t be....it’s on their potential...Trayce has a ton of potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bustout said: Understood. But it’s much harder to go back. Would you go back to school at 38 after your NBA career? Why would he need to then? Most do it during the summer and take online classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 @Bustout hey man we can dream...just don’t count on it my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, dgambill said: @Bustout hey man we can dream...just don’t count on it my friend. Ha. I hear you. And understand all your point. I just think: 1) There’s zero guarantee he’s getting drafted this year. Zero. Zero. 2) It has to be attractive to come back to improve draft stock, get degree, and play for a potential final 4 - elite 8 team with fans next year. Gives him closure. If he was a projected fringe first/second round, I’d get it 100% leaving. But he’s not close. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bustout said: Ha. I hear you. And understand all your point. I just think: 1) There’s zero guarantee he’s getting drafted this year. Zero. Zero. 2) It has to be attractive to come back to improve draft stock, get degree, and play for a potential final 4 - elite 8 team with fans next year. Gives him closure. If he was a projected fringe first/second round, I’d get it 100% leaving. But he’s not close. At all. I think you will be surprised after his workouts and evaluations where he would go. We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 19 minutes ago, Bustout said: Ha. I hear you. And understand all your point. I just think: 1) There’s zero guarantee he’s getting drafted this year. Zero. Zero. 2) It has to be attractive to come back to improve draft stock, get degree, and play for a potential final 4 - elite 8 team with fans next year. Gives him closure. If he was a projected fringe first/second round, I’d get it 100% leaving. But he’s not close. At all. I’ve said it before but 1 year older is a huge disadvantage as far as the NBA is concerned. Still wish basketball would adopt the baseball rule for athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, dgambill said: For millions. He will get drafted and get his big contract and he will get personal coaches and have all day no school interference to help him improve. He will play better competition then college as well. But I bet he plays nba as well. He moves his feet and can protect the rim. It’s a myth that all nba bigs can shoot. Montrez Harrell, Capella...lots of bigs can’t shoot a lick. Right now he is not projected to be drafted so what huge contract will he get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 59 minutes ago, Bustout said: I really hope the fact that he’s probably a year away from getting a degree and he’s a border line draft pick (end of round 2). Look at Garza last year - performed Way better than TJD this year and came back. Granted, TJD May be a better pro, but hopefully TJD gets feedback and wants to come back to improve his draft stock AND get a degree. Until TJD can hit a shot outside 3 feet he will never see the door in the NBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Right now he is not projected to be drafted so what huge contract will he get. Nba GMs don’t give out mock drafts. Let him get to nba combine etc before worrying about projections etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Until TJD can hit a shot outside 3 feet he will never see the door in the NBA That is just dumb. Lots of nba bigs can’t shoot a jumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, dgambill said: That is just dumb. Lots of nba bigs can’t shoot a jumper. Well those aren't 6'8 PF either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: Well those aren't 6'8 PF either Montrez Harrell says hi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, dgambill said: Montrez Harrell says hi! He can hit outside shots and even hit 3's in college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: He can hit outside shots and even hit 3's in college Montrez Harrell has never hit an nba 3....ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Just now, dgambill said: Montrez Harrell has never hit an nba 3....ever! He was 11-40 at UL in 3 years. It shows no 3's hit but on sports reference it had a percent of .143, .143 and .173 so he had to hit some if he had a percentage over 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: He was 11-40 at UL in 3 years. It shows no 3's hit but on sports reference it had a percent of .143, .143 and .173 so he had to hit some if he had a percentage over 0 My bad...he hit a couple by accident 4 years ago. Why are you trying to argue...they are basically the same player....and their are several others that play exclusively in the paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Per Game Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2015-16 22 HOU NBA PF 39 1 9.7 1.5 2.3 .644 0.0 0.0 .000 1.5 2.3 .652 .644 0.6 1.2 .522 0.6 1.0 1.7 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.4 1.2 3.6 2016-17 23 HOU NBA C 58 14 18.3 3.9 5.9 .652 0.0 0.1 .143 3.9 5.8 .663 .654 1.3 2.1 .628 1.4 2.4 3.8 1.1 0.3 0.7 0.8 2.2 9.1 2017-18 24 LAC NBA C 76 3 17.0 4.6 7.2 .635 0.0 0.1 .143 4.6 7.1 .641 .636 1.8 2.9 .626 1.4 2.7 4.0 1.0 0.5 0.7 0.9 1.9 11.0 2018-19 25 LAC NBA C 82 5 26.3 6.7 10.8 .615 0.0 0.2 .176 6.6 10.6 .623 .617 3.2 5.0 .643 2.2 4.3 6.5 2.0 0.9 1.3 1.6 3.1 16.6 2019-20 26 LAC NBA C 63 2 27.8 7.5 12.9 .580 0.0 0.3 .000 7.5 12.6 .593 .580 3.7 5.6 .658 2.6 4.5 7.1 1.7 0.6 1.1 1.7 2.3 18.6 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Just now, dgambill said: My bad...he hit a couple by accident 4 years ago. Why are you trying to argue...they are basically the same player....and their are several others that play exclusively in the paint. Has TJD hit one 3 in a game and even a player like Sabonis has hot like 20 3's this year. If TJD was 6'11 I might agree with you but if you are 6'8 you will need to be able to hit shots outside of 3 feet. Harrell might not hit 3's that much but he can hit shots from beyond 3 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Just now, IU Scott said: Has TJD hit one 3 in a game and even a player like Sabonis has hot like 20 3's this year. If TJD was 6'11 I might agree with you but if you are 6'8 you will need to be able to hit shots outside of 3 feet. Harrell might not hit 3's that much but he can hit shots from beyond 3 feet. Sabonis is like 4-5 years in....and Harrell came into the league only playing around the basket and still primarily does. Lots of players have a skill set that don’t shoot outside....and over time they develop it. I give up. You know the truth..it just doesn’t fit your narrative that he has to come back...he doesn’t. I wish he would for selfish reasons but the nba will come calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Per Game Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2015-16 22 HOU NBA PF 39 1 9.7 1.5 2.3 .644 0.0 0.0 .000 1.5 2.3 .652 .644 0.6 1.2 .522 0.6 1.0 1.7 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.4 1.2 3.6 2016-17 23 HOU NBA C 58 14 18.3 3.9 5.9 .652 0.0 0.1 .143 3.9 5.8 .663 .654 1.3 2.1 .628 1.4 2.4 3.8 1.1 0.3 0.7 0.8 2.2 9.1 2017-18 24 LAC NBA C 76 3 17.0 4.6 7.2 .635 0.0 0.1 .143 4.6 7.1 .641 .636 1.8 2.9 .626 1.4 2.7 4.0 1.0 0.5 0.7 0.9 1.9 11.0 2018-19 25 LAC NBA C 82 5 26.3 6.7 10.8 .615 0.0 0.2 .176 6.6 10.6 .623 .617 3.2 5.0 .643 2.2 4.3 6.5 2.0 0.9 1.3 1.6 3.1 16.6 2019-20 26 LAC NBA C 63 2 27.8 7.5 12.9 .580 0.0 0.3 .000 7.5 12.6 .593 .580 3.7 5.6 .658 2.6 4.5 7.1 1.7 0.6 1.1 1.7 2.3 18.6 20 Yes scott he has hit like 5 3 pointers in 6 years...you are so right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Just now, dgambill said: Sabonis is like 4-5 years in....and Harrell came into the league only playing around the basket and still primarily does. Lots of players have a skill set that don’t shoot outside....and over time they develop it. I give up. You know the truth..it just doesn’t fit your narrative that he has to come back...he doesn’t. I wish he would for selfish reasons but the nba will come calling. I am not saying he won't leave but as of right now I doubt he will get drafted this year. Garza is a way better player than TJD was and he came back after finding out he wouldn't be drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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