Crimson Creamer Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Was watching an old game from 2013 and was wondering if anyone knows why Remy Abell was kicked off the team after the season? He would have been a big help the following season when the team struggled. If I remember correctly, his family even met with Crean to try to let him back on the team, but he didn’t allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Crimson Creamer said: Was watching an old game from 2013 and was wondering if anyone knows why Remy Abell was kicked off the team after the season? He would have been a big help the following season when the team struggled. If I remember correctly, his family even met with Crean to try to let him back on the team, but he didn’t allow it. I'm pretty sure he was creaned. He was recruited over and they were over signed (as usual) so Crean needed someone to go to free up a scholarship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 There were much more likely candidates to be 'Creaned' from that team if it was due to freeing up a scholarship. Abell was a solid player, and he played decent minutes. Plus, we were losing 4 starters to the NBA / Graduation. I won't speculate as to why it did happen, but I just don't see it as a move to free up a scholly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: There were much more likely candidates to be 'Creaned' from that team if it was due to freeing up a scholarship. Abell was a solid player, and he played decent minutes. Plus, we were losing 4 starters to the NBA / Graduation. I won't speculate as to why it did happen, but I just don't see it as a move to free up a scholly. I was pretty disappointed Abell left. He was a 2 year starter for X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euroclydon Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 I wouldn't put Remy in the "creaned" category. Pretty sure he saw limited playing time in his future and wanted to go some place with more opportunity, which ended up being Xavier. I believe it worked out well for him because he ended up being one of their top 3 scorers and played a lot more minutes than at IU. That was the same season Crean ended up bringing in a very large recruiting class but I don't believe it was a case where Remy was forced out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Euroclydon said: I wouldn't put Remy in the "creaned" category. Pretty sure he saw limited playing time in his future and wanted to go some place with more opportunity, which ended up being Xavier. I believe it worked out well for him because he ended up being one of their top 3 scorers and played a lot more minutes than at IU. That was the same season Crean ended up bringing in a very large recruiting class but I don't believe it was a case where Remy was forced out. I'd always heard Crean told him that Sheehey was going to be the starter ahead of him and Remy wanted to start so he transferred... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I'd always heard Crean told him that Sheehey was going to be the starter ahead of him and Remy wanted to start so he transferred... That team only had 4 starters though. Sheehey, Yogi, Vonleh, and Troy. The 5th starter was a revolving door of Stan Robinson, Jeremy Hollowell, Austin Etherington, and Evan Gordon. Abell's transfer may have been the beginning of the end for Crean. If he would have stayed, it would have lessened the blow of the failure of the Movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, 5fouls said: the Movement. No cursing. Mods please handle this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, 5fouls said: That team only had 4 starters though. Sheehey, Yogi, Vonleh, and Troy. The 5th starter was a revolving door of Stan Robinson, Jeremy Hollowell, Austin Etherington, and Evan Gordon. Abell's transfer may have been the beginning of the end for Crean. If he would have stayed, it would have lessened the blow of the failure of the Movement. Ya know, I had never put them together. Big mistake by Crean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxnJxn Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 That kid was tough. Was pretty bummed when he transferred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Crean overvalued some other guys and undervalued Remy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, Billingsley99 said: Crean overvalued some other guys and undervalued Remy. All of that pants adjusting can throw off your judgement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, IUFLA said: All of that pants adjusting can throw off your judgement... And the hours spent perfecting his own shooting form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Am I misremembering there was a disciplinary issue with Remy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 I thought Remy got into trouble and Crean told him to look elsewhere. I also thought Remy and his mother tried to get Crean to change his mind but he wouldn't so it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Creamer Posted February 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I thought Remy got into trouble and Crean told him to look elsewhere. I also thought Remy and his mother tried to get Crean to change his mind but he wouldn't so it. Agreed, he wanted to stay. I just never found out what he did for Crean to boot him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Most of my info regarding IUBB comes from this board and I dont remember reading anything about Remy getting into trouble. Maybe he had lingering health issues after Craig hit h upside his head with that brick? 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, KoB2011 said: Am I misremembering there was a disciplinary issue with Remy? That's what I remember. There was a disciplinary issue and Crean kicked him off, it was in the off-season if I remember correctly, so there wasn't a ton of noise about it. Abel and his mom tried to get him reinstated and Crean said no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 36 minutes ago, BGleas said: That's what I remember. There was a disciplinary issue and Crean kicked him off, it was in the off-season if I remember correctly, so there wasn't a ton of noise about it. Abel and his mom tried to get him reinstated and Crean said no. That's how I remember it, too. I have a vague memory of what it was, but don't want to post it in case I'm wrong because my memory isn't a particularly PG memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 33 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: That's how I remember it, too. I have a vague memory of what it was, but don't want to post it in case I'm wrong because my memory isn't a particularly PG memory. That's sounds familiar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 If Mile was here he would remind us exactly how he remembered it going down based on the information he had at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiveoutofsix Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 15 hours ago, Crimson Creamer said: Was watching an old game from 2013 and was wondering if anyone knows why Remy Abell was kicked off the team after the season? He would have been a big help the following season when the team struggled. If I remember correctly, his family even met with Crean to try to let him back on the team, but he didn’t allow it. He left on his own, and then tried to come back was told he already made his decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, Fiveoutofsix said: He left on his own, and then tried to come back was told he already made his decision. That sounds right. His mom tried to get CTC to let him come back and said sorry. I think we all speculated there was more to the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Fiveoutofsix said: He left on his own, and then tried to come back was told he already made his decision. That sounds familiar as well. Might not have been disciplinary. He definitely tried to stay at IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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