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I'd personally prefer Matta but obviously I don't know where his health is. 

If he's ready to coach, I think he's the best option. Been to multiple Final Fours and more Elite 8's, has won multiple conference regular season and tournament titles. 

If he isn't healthy or interested in coaching again, then Drew might be a guy that given the last couple of years could come with some momentum. 

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2 minutes ago, BGleas said:

I'd personally prefer Matta but obviously I don't know where his health is. 

If he's ready to coach, I think he's the best option. Been to multiple Final Fours and more Elite 8's, has won multiple conference regular season and tournament titles. 

If he isn't healthy or interested in coaching again, then Drew might be a guy that given the last couple of years could come with some momentum. 

I think we’d be lucky to get either and both would be clear upgrades. The only reason I’d pick Drew over Matta is because the last time Matta had a team anywhere near as good as Drew’s last two teams was in 2012 which is a long time ago. Just feel like it’d be a bigger risk than a guy who’s had a top 5 team the last two years. 

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22 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

Let's say Baylor makes the Final Four.  Would he realistically leave that team for this?  Does Baylor have a bunch of seniors?

 

 

They have two starters that are seniors. Their best player could declare early. If he stays they’d probably be a top 10 team next year also just with their player development and a top 10 recruiting class coming in. He makes 2.7 million a year right now. Let’s say we offer 5 million a year, that’d be pretty tough to turn down. It definitely would take our administration opening up the wallets, which I don’t know if they’d be willing to do and him viewing Indiana as a step up from Baylor for it to happen. I think one advantage we do have however is that he spent a lot of his childhood in Indiana. He was probably in high school during our last title so maybe that helps in our favor. 

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4 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

Let's say Baylor makes the Final Four.  Would he realistically leave that team for this?  Does Baylor have a bunch of seniors?

 

 

Not really. Only 2 players that see more than 10 mpg are seniors. Of those 2, Teague has the bigger impact at 30 mpg and 14.7 ppg.

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I feel like this has been talked about before. He could just be wired differently. Calipari left Memphis which has a much richer basketball history than Baylor for Kentucky. He had John Wall and Cousins committed to Memphis so a similar situation to what Drew would have and still left. Who knows? Maybe Drew would leave like Calipari did but we won’t know unless we actually try.

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7 hours ago, Hoosier987 said:

Regarding Sampson...we will never know but I would not be surprised if he had one a championship or two by now. 

Sampson could coach, no doubt about it. It’s been said before and I will echo other posters, coaches need to play in the grey area without getting us into trouble. I’m of the opinion that all top programs push the envelope as far as possible without getting sanctions, some push farther without much trouble. 

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I’m warming up to Drew.  He can obviously recruit.  I want to watch them down the stretch to get a handle on how his teams play. But he’s proven himself in P5 basketball.  

But the larger point is that there are plenty of very good possibilities for IU.  It’s really about the administration and what they are willing to do.  Dolson knows where the bodies are buried in terms of what we can fix to make the job more attractive.  He should have a plan to show a name coach how IU is changing and will be built to win going forward in terms of (a) generating money via marketing plans for players which will be a boon for recruiting, (b) compliance to help the team and not following a hyper regulatory environment, (c) facilities to be enhanced, (d) assistant salaries, (e) recruiting budgets, (f) flexibility on roster management (Crean’s recruits foisted on him by Glass, meaning we couldn’t take McKinley Wright; that move alone might cost Archie his job).  etc. 

Then you decide that money will not be the obstacle preventing you from getting a guy.  Think like you’re Kentucky.  Kansas and UNC do what it takes to right the ship. IU hasn’t been that school   But....

There are people who mock IU fans for thinking they might get a name coach.  Just ignore anyone who speaks definitively. They have no bleeping idea what the Board might do differently that they haven’t done before.  Anybody who speaks definitively is the one who should be mocked. 

The assumption might be IU hasn’t learned any lessons and might just do the Archie thing again. But there is much more scrutiny and public pressure for the slapstick level idiocies of the administration’s actions in the past. Basketball ineptitude might be seen as an aggravation now that they want to fix to avoid the distraction. Who knows, maybe Dolson will be a better steward who can pitch better than Fred.  Show the Board how IU hoops is a crown jewel that will bring in $$$$ via donations from giddy alumni as well as increased interest in student applications.  IU has doctors, MBA’s, lawyers etc all around the country and a lot of them can drop $5k or $10k to IU if they felt like it.  Out of state high school kids might notice IU more and then see that IU is really good for business or music or whatever their interests are.

Now if the administration is determined to be an obstacle then sure we might hire the next flavor of the month from the mid majors.  But this time the rage from the alumni will be palpable. 

There are plenty of good coaches out there. It only takes one to pop for IU. 

Thad Matta averaged 28 wins over a ten year period and went to final fours and elite eights like it was nothing. 

Scott Drew is from Indiana and has been recruiting well and winning at Baylor. 

Chris Beard comes off Bob Knight’s tree and knows Pat Knight as well, who knows Dolson. 

Brad Stevens.  Probably a long shot but NBA coaches have a shelf life for the most part. It just gets stale.  He is from Indiana so it’s natural. 

Eric Musselman. Great resume.  Coached in the NBA under some top guys.  Coaching lifer.  Killed it at Nevada. 

John Beilein. Getting older and have to get past the Cleveland incident. 

Ignore anyone who claims to know for a fact that none of those will happen. It is just noise.  Dolson might even believe something but the Board can direct him elsewhere and that hasn’t happened yet. So there is no definitive answer to anything yet.  

 

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11 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

Well.... Y'all were a pretty bad franchise before Kerr got there. Hard to pin that on one coach. 

The Run TMC team was good. The Webber team was good. Had some good years with Baron Davis. But year there were plenty of lean years in there. It wasn’t until a group that left the Celtics bought the Warriors did it turn into the franchise we’ve watched over the last decade. 

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3 hours ago, unexpectedflash said:

https://www.si.com/college/2021/02/27/indiana-hoosiers-archie-miller-scott-drew

Pat Forde just put this out. Hopefully national writers making articles like this means the end is near. 

One thing I disagree with:

Last Wednesday, in Miller’s 121st game leading the Hoosiers, the coach watched Rutgers—the worst program in the Big Ten when he arrived—dunk all over his passive team. The Scarlet Knights grabbed uncontested rebounds, swatted away shots and ran the floor with impunity. They took a 20-point lead before easing off and winning by 11.

Hard? This was easy. Laughably easy. Low-point-of-the-Miller-era easy.

Probably not even in the top 5 after Purdue in CBK's return, Indiana State, IPFW twice, OSU in BTT with NCAAT bid on the line, NW at home this year...

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23 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

One thing I disagree with:

Last Wednesday, in Miller’s 121st game leading the Hoosiers, the coach watched Rutgers—the worst program in the Big Ten when he arrived—dunk all over his passive team. The Scarlet Knights grabbed uncontested rebounds, swatted away shots and ran the floor with impunity. They took a 20-point lead before easing off and winning by 11.

Hard? This was easy. Laughably easy. Low-point-of-the-Miller-era easy.

Probably not even in the top 5 after Purdue in CMK's return, Indiana State, IPFW twice, OSU in BTT with NCAAT bid on the line, NW at home this year...

There are so many.  Add this year, not making the tournament when your state is hosting the entire thing.  5 years straight losing recording conference, 1st time in 100 years.  Smh

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