IUFLA Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, OldDog said: Has anyone addressed that Gregg Marshall is available? After Kevin Wilson, do you really think Gregg Marshall is even an option? Edited March 12, 2021 by IUFLA 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, HoosierMatty said: a brilliant offensive mind. I feel like I must be the only one seeing Beilein on the B1G Show or the post game breakdowns. I love and respect the guy and wanted him 10 years ago. I feel for the guy because he looks really old and is struggling with his words. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUProfessor Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) Chris Beard has obviously won everywhere he's been. But the last two years have only been so-so. Is there a reason to think this is just a blip, or is he trending in the wrong direction. Scott Drew, on the other hand, is kind of the opposite. Hadn't won as big as Beard until the last couple years, but is currently reaching new heights. Edit: And then there's Drew's roots in the state vs Beard's connection to Knight. Edit again: You also have to consider who is better positioned to succeed in light of what I would imagine are IU's heightened academic standards compared to Baylor or (especially) Texas Tech. Interesting comparison, hard to know which is the better bet over the next 5-10 years. Edited March 12, 2021 by IUProfessor 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 8 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: Who you talking to? IU online for late night geezers? there is no way current IU students want Woodson or Smart, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, NCHoosier32 said: there is no way current IU students want Woodson or Smart, right? Only 1% would even know who that is. Those older than 40 on IU online 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, IUProfessor said: Chris Beard has obviously won everywhere he's been. But the last two years have only been so-so. Is there a reason to think this is just a blip, or is he trending in the wrong direction. Scott Drew, on the other hand, is kind of the opposite. Hadn't won as big as Beard until the last couple years, but is currently reaching new heights. Interesting comparison, hard to know which is the better bet over the next 5-10 years. Either would be very good but I'm starting to like Musselman a lot. He coached in the NBA for years so that will help with recruiting. He's definitely used to the spotlight so I'm sure he could handle the fan base. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUJoe Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, IUProfessor said: Chris Beard has obviously won everywhere he's been. But the last two years have only been so-so. Is there a reason to think this is just a blip, or is he trending in the wrong direction. Scott Drew, on the other hand, is kind of the opposite. Hadn't won as big as Beard until the last couple years, but is currently reaching new heights. Interesting comparison, hard to know which is the better bet over the next 5-10 years. Good question....I've wondered the same thing. Looking at Drew's career at Baylor, he's had a few blips, but is definitely on a high right now. I imagine it's nearly impossible to win big every year at either school. I think both are excellent and I'd take either one, but I personally prefer Beard by just a hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 31 minutes ago, HoosierMatty said: At this point I feel the coach we need is one with power 5 success and a brilliant offensive mind. Assuming we aren't getting Brad Stevens then it has to be Beilein. I would hire him and get Dane Fife to come on board as an associate head coach. Dane can run the defense as he's shown he's a great defensive mind. Dane would be hired on as the coach in waiting for when Beilein retires. With the amount of experience he's built up under coaches likes Izzo and Beilein I think he's be worth giving a shot. I like Beilein because we need to get this program back on track. He can develop guards especially PGs. We have the makings of a very good guard duo in Franklin and Lander. However, I don't think we should require him to hire Fife for defense and as an HC in waiting. Then he always has to be looking over his shoulder at Fife and vice versa. Although he's old, so am I! We need a solid hire that will at the very least get this program back into contention. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUProfessor Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Either would be very good but I'm starting to like Musselman a lot. He coached in the NBA for years so that will help with recruiting. He's definitely used to the spotlight so I'm sure he could handle the fan base. Musselman is alleged to have some skeletons in the closet, so that plus the lack of sustained success at the P5 level moves him down a couple notches in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Feathery said: Chris Beard. So if I’m reading this right it seems like Beard only has a buyout of $3 million for schools outside of the Big XII and schools inside the conference it’s greatly increased. A $3 mil buyout to get one of the top coaches is the country is a no brainer. edit: drops to just over $2 mil on April 1st. I am not on the Beard train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: I feel like I must be the only one seeing Beilein on the B1G Show or the post game breakdowns. I love and respect the guy and wanted him 10 years ago. I feel for the guy because he looks really old and is struggling with his words. So do I but I am still good at my job lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, IUProfessor said: Musselman is alleged to have some skeletons in the closet, so that plus the lack of sustained success at the P5 level moves him down a couple notches in my book. I'd like to know what. Alcohol, money, women, gambling, cheating? What are we talking about here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Cutter said: I am not on the Beard train I'd take him. He definitely knows how to play D. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cutter said: So do I but I am still good at my job lol Can a 68 year old, that looks and sounds 78, grind at a ridiculously high level? Had a buddy that was a manager at IU in the day, the managers put in 80 hours. Coaches lived there sometimes and easily knocked out 18 hour days at times. The optics of Beilein on tv is not good. Add the thug comment and I think his ship has sailed. High risk, high reward. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Cutter said: I am not on the Beard train Can you elaborate? There have been so many names shoved down my throat over the last 6 months, this is one of the few i would be happy with. But just like EVERY name out there you can find flaws. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, IUJoe said: Good question....I've wondered the same thing. Looking at Drew's career at Baylor, he's had a few blips, but is definitely on a high right now. I imagine it's nearly impossible to win big every year at either school. I think both are excellent and I'd take either one, but I personally prefer Beard by just a hair. Definitely a good debate here. Drew has a longer track record - so probably a safer play. And literally rebuilt Baylor from nothing. Also, while both teams are good on both side of the ball, compared to the pendulum of our last two coaches, Drew is more offense-focused and Beard is more Defense. Beard is alleged to love Texas. If he came here and the Texas job opened up in say 5 years, would he bolt? Drew has commented on Baylor being a football school, so IU could be his destination job given his time in the state. Also - if Baylor wins it all ... would Drew actually leave or wait a year? Edited March 12, 2021 by Bustout 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, ledies22 said: Can you elaborate? There have been so many names shoved down my throat over the last 6 months, this is one of the few i would be happy with. But just like EVERY name out there you can find flaws. Lol yes I think Beard would be an upgrade but I think there are better options whether we get top choices or not I don’t know. Beard seems to have a good defensive approach but his offense seems kinda like Archie’s which is easy to prepare for just my opinion. He may have peaked and someone like messelman is on his way up. This is just opinion not fact as I am not well schooled on Beard. I think maybe his final four run and connection to knight may have given him a more favorable outlook to some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: I'd like to know what. Alcohol, money, women, gambling, cheating? What are we talking about here? I am pretty sure he had a DUI a few years back...tbh, his wife has had more controversy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, rico said: I am pretty sure he had a DUI a few years back...tbh, his wife has had more controversy. Looks like 2006. I should have been arrested for DUI's in 2006. If that is past him and the wife isn't a liability then he's worth a deep look and consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Looks like 2006. I should have been arrested for DUI's in 2006. If that is past him and the wife isn't a liability then he's worth a deep look and consideration. Not that it matters but he's very short. His wife is taller than he is. That's probably a deal breaker for much of our fan base. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Looks like 2006. I should have been arrested for DUI's in 2006. If that is past him and the wife isn't a liability then he's worth a deep look and consideration. All I could find. And his wife is hot! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUProfessor Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 One other data point. Noticed that according to 247, Mack has signed the nation's fifth best recruiting class at Louisville (4 4-stars and a 3-star), while Drew has signed the nation's 8th best class. Texas Tech wasn't in the top 25. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Not that it matters but he's very short. His wife is taller than he is. That's probably a deal breaker for much of our fan base. Those are some nice jeans his wife is wearing, they would look better on my bedroom floor.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, rico said: All I could find. And his wife is hot! Sage Steele would have competition for our favorite broadcaster 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, IUProfessor said: One other data point. Noticed that according to 247, Mack has signed the nation's fifth best recruiting class at Louisville (4 4-stars and a 3-star), while Drew has signed the nation's 8th best class. Texas Tech wasn't in the top 25. Never been to Lubbock but hear it's terrible. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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