IU Scott Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, BGleas said: Bad thing is that Lander missed 3 layups right at the basket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Terrible night for basketball in Indiana because the Pacers lost another home game to the Warriors 111-107. I think that makes the Pacers 7-9 at home this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: Bad thing is that Lander missed 3 layups right at the basket Still has only made 1 2pt field goal all season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushmage Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Rob Phinisee has played nearly one hour of game time and scored 0 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: Time to break these bad boys back out... It honestly doesn’t even sound like Archie realizes he’s the one that is supposed to be making those things happen. He sounds like a passive observer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, BGleas said: Still has only made 1 2pt field goal all season... I think you are the right person to ask but why do coaches feel the need to have set schedule for subbing. To me lately Archie is killing the good starts by having at least two subs at the first timeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, BGleas said: The fact that Archie has completely wrecked a five star PG is also an underrated storyline this season. I get that he graduated early, but the fact that he hasn’t made a single layup the entire season seems like it should be impossible. There’s no way he should be this bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: I think you are the right person to ask but why do coaches feel the need to have set schedule for subbing. To me lately Archie is killing the good starts by having at least two subs at the first timeout. I don't have the answer, I just think almost every coach does this. It's not like it's an Archie thing, they almost all do this. I'd have to guess a lot of it comes from bench players being much more comfortable knowing when they're going in, not sitting there wondering when they'll go in, why they haven't yet, etc., etc. I think that works better in the NBA though because the games are longer and you have to pace guys during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Inequality said: If This Is Us made an episode about life as an IU basketball fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, FW_Hoosier said: The fact that Archie has completely wrecked a five star PG is also an underrated storyline this season. I get that he graduated early, but the fact that he hasn’t made a single layup the entire season seems like it should be impossible. There’s no way he should be this bad. I don't know that I'd say Archie wrecked him, Lander clearly was not ready for this. So if in the sense that Archie never should have allowed him to come early when he wasn't ready, then I guess Archie wrecked him in that way. If I remember correctly, wasn't Lander already even sliding down the 2021 rankings a bit last year? I don't mean that to defend Archie or anything. I just think Lander might be a case of a kid that wasn't over-hyped in terms of ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU878176 Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Beard on BTN after the game... “Rutgers won every single 50/50 ball” ”In the second half I’m not sure IU got a 50/50 ball” “I was shocked, I’m not going to lie, at IU’s lack of effort in the second half” ”Thought we would see more fight but we didn’t” ”A lot of it was just effort” For 3 1/2 years I have been saying we don’t consistently compete under Archie and have gotten pushback. I’m not sure how/if people still dispute that Archie’s teams do not match his “marketing brand” of being hard nosed competitors. Just disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, IU878176 said: Beard on BTN after the game... “Rutgers won every 50/50 ball” “I was shocked at IU’s lack of effort in the second half” ”A lot of it was just effort” For 3 1/2 years I have been saying we don’t consistently compete under Archie and have gotten pushback. I’m not sure how/if people still dispute that Archie’s teams do not match his “marketing brand” of being hard nosed competitors. Just disappointing. Completely agree. I thought we were getting this hard-nosed, fiery Izzo-type guy who's teams always competed for 40 minutes regardless of their talent. That's what I thought we were getting, but it's been the exact opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, BGleas said: I don't know that I'd say Archie wrecked him, Lander clearly was not ready for this. So if in the sense that Archie never should have allowed him to come early when he wasn't ready, then I guess Archie wrecked him in that way. If I remember correctly, wasn't Lander already even sliding down the 2021 rankings a bit last year? I don't mean that to defend Archie or anything. I just think Lander might be a case of a kid that wasn't over-hyped in terms of ranking. Not that I recall. The 247 composite has him as the #27 overall recruit and #6 PG in the 2020 class. I think he moved from the #1 PG in 2021 to the #6 in 2020 simply because of the reclass. But look, I get that he may have been overrated or not quite ready... But the kid is averaging 2-1-1 and hasn’t hit a single layup the entire season. I just don’t buy that he was THAT overrated coming in. That is a lack of development and a failure to put him in a position to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, FW_Hoosier said: Not that I recall. The 247 composite has him as the #27 overall recruit and #6 PG in the 2020 class. I think he moved from the #1 PG in 2021 to the #6 in 2020 simply because of the reclass. But look, I get that he may have been overrated or not quite ready... But the kid is averaging 2-1-1 and hasn’t hit a single layup the entire season. I just don’t buy that he was THAT overrated coming in. That is a lack of development and a failure to put him in a position to succeed. Tough to develop a kid in a few months with the added restrictions of Covid, especially when he comes in completely not ready. I'm also not sure what other position he needs to be put in. When he's in the game he has the ball in his hand and he's a ball screen guard that is constantly in ball screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, BGleas said: I don't know that I'd say Archie wrecked him, Lander clearly was not ready for this. So if in the sense that Archie never should have allowed him to come early when he wasn't ready, then I guess Archie wrecked him in that way. If I remember correctly, wasn't Lander already even sliding down the 2021 rankings a bit last year? I don't mean that to defend Archie or anything. I just think Lander might be a case of a kid that wasn't over-hyped in terms of ranking. He did but not much. I think he went from barely top 10 to just outside. From 9/10 to the 11-15 range. He was still the #1 PG, I believe. I think he was around 11 or 12 when he reclassified. After the declassification he was #27 but still considered a 5*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, BGleas said: I don't have the answer, I just think almost every coach does this. It's not like it's an Archie thing, they almost all do this. I'd have to guess a lot of it comes from bench players being much more comfortable knowing when they're going in, not sitting there wondering when they'll go in, why they haven't yet, etc., etc. I think that works better in the NBA though because the games are longer and you have to pace guys during the season. I use to yell at Izzo for doing this same thing especially when they get off to a great start. I guess I just watch to many old games especially the 80's where RMK didn't sub unless of foul trouble. Most of those games there were usually 3 starters play the whole half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: I would prefer Matta. But, if he's not wanting to come back, get Beilien in here for 3-4 years to stabilize things to the point where a good coach would actually want to come to IU. This is exactly right. Bring Beilien in to stabilize things and then hope once that’s done IU looks appealing enough to a strong candidate. And absolute best case scenario by then Brad is on the outs in Boston IU can make a push at him after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 57 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: It's the same quote every game. Credit to the other team for handing us our ass again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 44 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Go ahead and make fun of me but I just sent this to Scott Dolson Two words about tonight's game Pathetic Embarrassing There is no way you can justify bringing back a coach that will have 4 straight losing seasons in the conference. it is embarrassing for IU basketball to be battling to finish 10th in the conference every year. This team looks like they quit in the second half tonight and that is not acceptable for any player at IU. We should be battling for the conference title at IU but we are in the same category as Rutgers and Minnesota. If you bring him back next year I would guarantee you will lose more fans and if they allow fans in AH next year it will be a lot of empty seats. Empty seats are a blessing. You kidding me. These guys would be getting booed off their own court this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, IU878176 said: Beard on BTN after the game... “Rutgers won every 50/50 ball” “I was shocked at IU’s lack of effort in the second half” ”A lot of it was just effort” For 3 1/2 years I have been saying we don’t consistently compete under Archie and have gotten pushback. I’m not sure how/if people still dispute that Archie’s teams do not match his “marketing brand” of being hard nosed competitors. Just disappointing. In other words, they are soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, BGleas said: Tough to develop a kid in a few months with the added restrictions of Covid, especially when he comes in completely not ready. I'm also not sure what other position he needs to be put in. When he's in the game he has the ball in his hand and he's a ball screen guard that is constantly in ball screens. Run something to get him an easy look, tell him to be aggressive in looking for his shot off the pick and roll. He’s only taken 10 shots in the last 5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronkonagurski Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Spent some time with family tonight. Set the DVR. Checked the phone at 23-11. Okay cool! By the time I got home, 31-35 at halftime. Oh, yeah. Seems about right. Watched the entire 2nd half. Like, what am I even watching. In a game where we need to be fighting tooth and nail every possession, we just roll over and get dunked on repeatedly. At least the hour special on the 1985 team trip overseas gave me some quality IU basketball entertainment to end the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think you are the right person to ask but why do coaches feel the need to have set schedule for subbing. To me lately Archie is killing the good starts by having at least two subs at the first timeout. I have been watching him do that crap every season. He could kill the momentum of a 100 ton boulder rolling down a mountain! And another thing. Just because Isso and a lot of coaches do it doesn't make it right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Maybe if we lose out that we will get the #1 pick in the draft. I was thinking that if the players wants to be paid like professionals then we should have drafts like pros do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 I hate losing. And I never root for lose...but if we had to lose like this...I just wish it wasn’t on Wed night on BTN against Rutgers when no one was watching. Wish it was prime time weekend game against Purdue so enough people would get pissed off enough to fix this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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