Feathery Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, dgambill said: Archie just wants to get into halftime down single digits! Indiana is 9 points down and 11 points from only scoring single digits in the half. Just bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zville Hoosier Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 So that last possession we should have had the ball with 1.3 seconds to go because of the shot clock violation and Archie just waved it off and basically said, Nah, we’re good.” He’s given up too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, BGleas said: LaPhonso Ellis also just said Indiana is running good offense and getting good looks, guys need to make shots. We have completely bricked or airballed completely wide open shots. Everyone in the country has been saying it for weeks. It's obvious. Between the bunnies we miss down low and 3-32 from 3 range.....just aren't a good shooting team. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, BGleas said: LaPhonso Ellis also just said Indiana is running good offense and getting good looks, guys need to make shots. We have completely bricked or airballed completely wide open shots. Hummel says it, Ellis says it, I've heard Bardo say it... Even little dink shots we can't hit...we left a good 8-10 points out there missing bunnies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, IUguy said: I know many want to just blame Archie. He certainly deserves some blame. But when you recruit shooters like Leal who just forgets how to shoot, and you have guys with experience like Rob who forget how to shoot, I just think some of the blame goes directly to the players. This! It doesn't mean Archie is blameless. It doesn't mean I don't think we need a change. But again, these have been incredibly open shots. We're getting way better shots than Purdue. Guys like Durham, Phinisee, Hunter and Leal are bricking and airballing wide open shots. TJD is missing solid looks right at the rim. At some point players have to make plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, dgambill said: Archie just wants to get into halftime down single digits! 🎼If it weren't for moral victories, we'd have no more victories at all Gloom, despair, and agony on us 🪕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Seeking6 said: All good points....maybe the dozen or so games I watched Galloway/Leal/Franklin when he was senior were just rare. I saw 3 in state kids knocking down 20 footers routinely. Not so much anymore. Plus if Archie doesn't recruit the in state kids....the guys at the barber shop get ticked. Tough cycle and catch-22. Go out of state and lose you get fired. Go in state but kids don't deliver and get fired. Purdue gets local kids that can shoot. But Painter coaches a style that allows his team to play free and loose. I think IU has capable shooters but have created a situation where they are on their own heads and get down so easily. There is no swag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, IUguy said: I know many want to just blame Archie. He certainly deserves some blame. But when you recruit shooters like Leal who just forgets how to shoot, and you have guys with experience like Rob who forget how to shoot, I just think some of the blame goes directly to the players. Archie has no responsibility in screwing then up? First off I thought Leal was an avg shooter for a high level recruit. He used his size and athleticism to dominate HS competition...it’s going to take him a couple years before he is at the level where he will be that kind of player at the B1G level. Same with Galloway. Just not a knock down shooter. Lander too. But we haven’t done anything to improve their shooting. It’s actually gotten worse as the season has gone along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Some of the gang on here knows more than Hummel. I'll keep saying what I've been saying for weeks. Great looks. Not going in. Simple as that. Then recruit players! Who’s that on ! 3 years of poor shooting! Who’s fault is that! AD Administration or Archie’s! Who’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, Zuckerkorn said: 🎼If it weren't for moral victories, we'd have no more victories at all Gloom, despair, and agony on us 🪕 You have always been one of my favorite posters, but the Hee Haw reference raises the respect level even higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU878176 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Hummel calls it again...we went away from the ball screen action Hummel is a good announcer and commentator. Even though he went to PU I also liked his game, a lot, and felt bad for him that he had so many injury issues. Assume he was a great teammate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, Feathery said: Purdue gets local kids that can shoot. But Painter coaches a style that allows his team to play free and loose. I think IU has capable shooters but have created a situation where they are on their own heads and get down so easily. There is no swag. Completely agree. There's no fight, mental toughness, or enthusiasm with this program. Been that way for 4 years, really 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, BGleas said: This! It doesn't mean Archie is blameless. It doesn't mean I don't think we need a change. But again, these have been incredibly open shots. We're getting way better shots than Purdue. Guys like Durham, Phinisee, Hunter and Leal are bricking and airballing wide open shots. TJD is missing solid looks right at the rim. At some point players have to make plays. Maybe the players want a change too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cbp4IU Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 This is the end of Archie. They are getting worse. Fans won’t watch to watch this another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, OLDIUFAN said: Then recruit players! Who’s that on ! 3 years of poor shooting! Who’s fault is that! AD Administration or Archie’s! Who’s If I had $1 for everytime someone on an IU message board has pointed out we need shooters, I could pay the buyout (and would !) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, Feathery said: That’s the position Archie played too. You would think that he would be able to recruit guards at an elite level. I doubt elite level guards watch us and want to come play our style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Feathery said: Purdue gets local kids that can shoot. But Painter coaches a style that allows his team to play free and loose. I think IU has capable shooters but have created a situation where they are on their own heads and get down so easily. There is no swag. Don't disagree with that a bit. I also think most can agree 3-32 isn't coaching either. At least I can. Edit-3-33...I must have missed one somewhere when I was going to the fridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, Feathery said: Maybe the players want a change too. I played for a college program that struggled to win. We were awful my first 3 years and then finally decent my senior year (made our league playoffs my senior year for the first time in 10 years and beat 3 top 25 teams). I can't even describe the mental toll it plays on you at the collegiate level. It was brutal and losing and confidence can snowball on you so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, BGleas said: LaPhonso Ellis also just said Indiana is running good offense and getting good looks, guys need to make shots. We have completely bricked or airballed completely wide open shots. But maybe they are open because the defense knows they can't shoot so they are clogging the lane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Parakeet Jones said: I doubt elite level guards watch us and want to come play our style. Not with this “coaching regime”... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, IUguy said: I know many want to just blame Archie. He certainly deserves some blame. But when you recruit shooters like Leal who just forgets how to shoot, and you have guys with experience like Rob who forget how to shoot, I just think some of the blame goes directly to the players. Okay, so it’s the players fault they suck, not Archie’s. It’s been the exact same thing for four years straight. Is there any reason to think it’s going to change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Cbp4IU said: This is the end of Archie. They are getting worse. Fans won’t watch to watch this another year. Agreed. And they shouldn’t have to. He has 20 mins to turn this team around. Something needs to click...not sure what button needs pushed but Archie needs to find it soon. He is like a virgin trying to find the mythical clitoris. His team just isn’t responding anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, Seeking6 said: Don't disagree with that a bit. I also think most can agree 3-32 isn't coaching either. At least I can. It’s on both. But only 1 will held responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, IU Scott said: But maybe they are open because the defense knows they can't shoot so they are clogging the lane Doesn't change the fact that guys like Durham, Phinisee, Hunter and Leal, who are D1 basketball players, need to make completely wide open shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, BGleas said: I played for a college program that struggled to win. We were awful my first 3 years and then finally decent my senior year (made our league playoffs my senior year for the first time in 10 years and beat 3 top 25 teams). I can't even describe the mental toll it plays on you at the collegiate level. It was brutal and losing and confidence can snowball on you so fast. Especially this year when the kids don't get to enjoy the benefits of being a hoops player in Bloomington. Kids might just be done as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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