Feathery Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, BGleas said: I don’t know. It's not because Archie tells them too. Clearly they lack confidence. But today, and in many games, these are completely wide open shots. I'd say its a recruiting issue. We haven't prioritized shooting, which is on Archie. We haven't recruited over Durham and Phinisee, which is an Archie issue. But at some point these are high-major D1 basketball players and these are wide open shots. Players need to make plays. Just because a guy is on a High D1 roster doesn’t mean they have the talent to compete and be there. You said it right I think. Archie didn’t recruit over Al and Rob, both are bench players at best on a good D1 roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 I would love to hear an “oops” hot mic moment between Fisher and Suhr during games like these. They have to feel it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, Feathery said: Just because a guy is on a High D1 roster doesn’t mean they have the talent to compete and be there. You said it right I think. Archie didn’t recruit over Al and Rob, both are bench players at best on a good D1 roster. Agree. Guard and wing talent is why we're in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Feathery said: Then get guys who can make the shot. Still come back to the coach and recruiting. Shooting has been an issue for 4 years. It’s not just missing shots when it’s 4 years in a row. Culturally Purdue is known for hitting shots and IU is known for missing and missing some badly. Tell me which one of the kids from Indiana that Archie recruited recently that wasn't known as a shooter? I mean i know not having Franklin out there today means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 @IU Scott you can’t complain about us not using the back board anymore....all our 3s are hitting just backboard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, BGleas said: Agree. Guard and wing talent is why we're in this situation. That’s the position Archie played too. You would think that he would be able to recruit guards at an elite level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Hummel calls it again...we went away from the ball screen action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Artesian_86 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 I really am watching Ghostbusters....I’m just following this game thread. Maybe some of these guys are just tanking to help Archie out the door...🧐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTrojan88 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 The sad thing about all of this is that we are wasting Fisch’s later years. He is so awesome to listen to and you just know this crappy basketball is taking it’s toll on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Feathery said: That’s the position Archie played too. You would think that he would be able to recruit guards at an elite level. Archie subscribes to the Calipari system...he wants wingspan and athletes...and shooting is just a secondary thought...because it’s all about defense with Archie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, dgambill said: @IU Scott you can’t complain about us not using the back board anymore....all our 3s are hitting just backboard! But TJD just missed when he should have used the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, HoosierFaithful said: Yeah, if Leal is shooting like that, it's just not working out for IU. Do we need to recruit more Indiana kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Imagine holding your opponent to 29 points in a half and still finding yourself down 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoagieRoll Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1/13 from three need more Indiana kids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, Seeking6 said: Tell me which one of the kids from Indiana that Archie recruited recently that wasn't known as a shooter? I mean i know not having Franklin out there today means nothing. Lander is a slasher, Trey isn’t a shooter and wasn’t in high school, Franklin came in as a scorer not an elite shooter. Rob wasn’t a shooter in high school. None of the bigs can shoot either to help floor spacing. Leal is a shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, dgambill said: Archie subscribes to the Calipari system...he wants wingspan and athletes...and shooting is just a secondary thought...because it’s all about defense with Archie. Except we don't really have any super long, athletic guys. So even that hasn't worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 One point per minute. That’s Indiana basketball baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Archie just wants to get into halftime down single digits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, IUCrazy2 said: Imagine holding your opponent to 29 points in a half and still finding yourself down 9. That's driving me crazy. 29 points and we can't a broad side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 It definitely doesn't look like the players have "checked out" thus far - the efgort is there. The talent/skill level + coaching just isn't working. Both of those factors are 1 man's resposibility..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUguy Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 I know many want to just blame Archie. He certainly deserves some blame. But when you recruit shooters like Leal who just forgets how to shoot, and you have guys with experience like Rob who forget how to shoot, I just think some of the blame goes directly to the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 LaPhonso Ellis also just said Indiana is running good offense and getting good looks, guys need to make shots. We have completely bricked or airballed completely wide open shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, John S said: Do we need to recruit more Indiana kids? No! You take em where they are at. The rest of the country has easily caught up to Indiana HS basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Feathery said: Lander is a slasher, Trey isn’t a shooter and wasn’t in high school, Franklin came in as a scorer not an elite shooter. Rob wasn’t a shooter in high school. None of the bigs can shoot either to help floor spacing. Leal is a shooter. All good points....maybe the dozen or so games I watched Galloway/Leal/Franklin when he was senior were just rare. I saw 3 in state kids knocking down 20 footers routinely. Not so much anymore. Plus if Archie doesn't recruit the in state kids....the guys at the barber shop get ticked. Tough cycle and catch-22. Go out of state and lose you get fired. Go in state but kids don't deliver and get fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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