Seeking6 Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Stlboiler23 said: Money could only buy a 2nd round appearance for this Illini squad. The good thing is Illini are like cicadas. Make an appearance every 16-17 years so we won't have to worry about them nationally again for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 Just looked at the stats of UI vs Loyola game. It wasn't 3 pointer or free throws or foul disparity or anything. UI turned the ball over 6 more times, and Loyola made more 2 point field goals. That means it's good defense and offensive execution. I'm impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, BobSaccamanno said: This game reminds me of our game in Champaign. They were coming off some 90 point games and we ground them down into a slower game like this. Loyola is just a better team than we are. We really could have swept them. in that second game we were in OT and Ayo fouled out and we lost with Durham up top with the ball and Franklin hiding in the corner. I never bought into Illinois as a one seed. It might not be popular but the B1G was very balanced and deep but not particularly elite at the top although I do like Michigan. Iowa got a good draw so let’s see what they do but we will see how the conference does. I am a long time Big Ten fan, but the conference was overvalued IMO this year. 9 teams into big dance was partly because of the experts repeating a narrative most of ghe season: “clearly the premier conf in the country.” May be tops in wrestling in the paint, but seems to me there was a lack of really good shooters and strong PGs. Not a huge surprise Ill, PU got beat. Spartans were a joke. Hoosiers, luckily, had no opportunity to embarrass the league in tourney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 B1G was an imposter. NCAA is about elite guard play....especially point guards...and the B1G is weak on that front...look at us with Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, dgambill said: B1G was an imposter. NCAA is about elite guard play....especially point guards...and the B1G is weak on that front...look at us with Rob. Yeah, the league is putting in an epic choke job this year. So overrated.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, dgambill said: B1G was an imposter. NCAA is about elite guard play....especially point guards...and the B1G is weak on that front...look at us with Rob. I think Rob is an epitome of Archie's failure. I believe Rob came to IU with good amount of talent and potential; he was one of the top dogs in Indiana high school in his class. Archie failed to groom him, and that's just something I don't get it. Archie was a freakin' point guard himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: Yeah, the league is putting in an epic choke job this year. So overrated.... It’s why Dolson is right about the nba style. While the B1G is plodding along with slow down post up big man banging basketball the rest of college basketball is running up and down and shooting 3s and whipping our butts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 Baylor looking impressive. I understand that Dolson probably won't consider Drew, but I think it is a mistake. I put him right there with Beard and maybe Musselman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: Jameel Brown just decommited from Purdue I wondered if any would reopen their recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, BobSaccamanno said: This game reminds me of our game in Champaign. They were coming off some 90 point games and we ground them down into a slower game like this. Loyola is just a better team than we are. We really could have swept them. in that second game we were in OT and Ayo fouled out and we lost with Durham up top with the ball and Franklin hiding in the corner. I never bought into Illinois as a one seed. It might not be popular but the B1G was very balanced and deep but not particularly elite at the top although I do like Michigan. Iowa got a good draw so let’s see what they do but we will see how the conference does. Didn’t we beat Loyola in preseason/unofficial game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, dgambill said: I wondered if any would reopen their recruitment. I think he is Penn State bound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 Just look at the few B1G schools that have made runs in the tourney. Purdue with elite point guard play. Michigan st with elite point guard play. Michigan with elite guard play. OSU and Illinois did when they had elite guards...the bigger, slower, more physical the league the worse it’s done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxnJxn Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, addictedtoIU said: I think Rob is an epitome of Archie's failure. I believe Rob came to IU with good amount of talent and potential; he was one of the top dogs in Indiana high school in his class. Archie failed to groom him, and that's just something I don't get it. Archie was a freakin' point guard himself. Kinda makes me wonder how Archie would have done if he had brought McKinley Wright with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, AxnJxn said: Kinda makes me wonder how Archie would have done if he had brought McKinley Wright with him. There would have been an uproar that he brought in a guy ranked #229 (247 composite) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 Question remains would Wright have developed under Archie the same or not. Also Romeo likely would not have come as he was good friends with Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 I want to watch Baylor and Gonzaga. Neither may make it but dang that would be a fun up and down game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, dgambill said: I want to watch Baylor and Gonzaga. Neither may make it but dang that would be a fun up and down game! Agree 100%. I also am impressed with BU shooting 15 footers at a high %. Dont see much in Big Ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, AxnJxn said: Kinda makes me wonder how Archie would have done if he had brought McKinley Wright with him. Right. I would've love to see that too. My guess is McKinley would've done better than Rob because of his seemingly strong personality. Rob's issue was, I think, mostly mental. Archie turned out to be not a good mentor for his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, John S said: Agree 100%. I also am impressed with BU shooting 15 footers at a high %. Dont see much in Big Ten. They play with tempo and push the ball even off of makes. They take a lot of quick but good jumpers. It would be an exciting game....not sure it will happen but it would be maybe the most up and down finals we’ve seen in a long time. 90s probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxnJxn Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, Lurker said: There would have been an uproar that he brought in a guy ranked #229 (247 composite) 13 minutes ago, dgambill said: Question remains would Wright have developed under Archie the same or not. Also Romeo likely would not have come as he was good friends with Rob. 5 minutes ago, addictedtoIU said: Right. I would've love to see that too. My guess is McKinley would've done better than Rob because of his seemingly strong personality. Rob's issue was, I think, mostly mental. Archie turned out to be not a good mentor for his players. Interesting to look back now. I remember it was seen that we kinda “stole” Rob from Purdue’s back yard, and after his freshman year, seemed like a great get. Meanwhile, McKinley would have been just what we needed this year. ‘Course, he probably would have lost the ability to shoot when he stepped on the court if he had come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU878176 Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 47 minutes ago, dgambill said: Didn’t we beat Loyola in preseason/unofficial game? Think that was 2018. One of the teams seems to have improved since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 54 minutes ago, dgambill said: I wondered if any would reopen their recruitment. Guy is from PA and never got to see campus. In this day and age it’s not going to be uncommon IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: I think he is Penn State bound Wouldn’t surprise me at all. Shrews will do well there IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Wouldn’t surprise me at all. Shrews will do well there IMO. I heard Shrew was the main recruiter to Brown. Is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 I know everyone seems to hate Drew from the Perea recruitment but his offense and defense is night and day ahead of where we been. Maybe it’s time to bury the hatchet and get on the Drew train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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