Transfer Portal......and LeBron James and other off season tangents.

[RoadToZion]

I don't know. I'm not a part of the staff. I'm just guessing on what went down. I'm shocked Joey still wants to play to be honest.

[Fiveoutofsix]

6 minutes ago, RoadToZion said:

I don't know. I'm not a part of the staff. I'm just guessing on what went down. I'm shocked Joey still wants to play to be honest.

Some of it could be what he wants to study now that he has a masters in hand.  Some of it could be juggling those studies with new practice methods.  Some could be what you were saying, role, style, etc.  I think with a kid like this, all signs point towards using basketball to get the most out of academic endeavors.  I enjoyed his game and will miss seeing him on the court in an IU uniform.

[rico]

16 minutes ago, Fiveoutofsix said:

Some of it could be what he wants to study now that he has a masters in hand.  Some of it could be juggling those studies with new practice methods.  Some could be what you were saying, role, style, etc.  I think with a kid like this, all signs point towards using basketball to get the most out of academic endeavors.  I enjoyed his game and will miss seeing him on the court in an IU uniform.

I do believe if Joey had any NBA aspirations they were shattered a while back.  Nothing wrong with using your athletic ability to gain an edge in the game called life and accepting it.  Best of luck to him in his journey.

[NotIThatLives]

Are the rumors true or not that Joey wanted to start law school and IU said no to playing and law school at the same time?

If that's the case, then it's a simple business decision for Brunk.  Stay debt free and walk with a law degree.  Pretty impressive and a great way to start his adulthood journey.  

Edited April 14, 2021 by NotIThatLives

[tdhoosier]

Somebody was talking about Kyle Mangas from IWU a couple of pages back (which ai can't find now)....and I kinda brushed it off because he's in the NAIA. But the guy is like 40% from three and scores almost 30 a game. And then I saw his highlight video on Twitter...he's pretty darn athletic too. Just a little intrigued.

To the person who posted that, is there any report of IU being interested? 

 

[DC2345]

9 minutes ago, tdhoosier said:

Somebody was talking about Kyle Mangas from IWU a couple of pages back (which ai can't find now)....and I kinda brushed it off because he's in the NAIA. But the guy is like 40% from three and scores almost 30 a game. And then I saw his highlight video on Twitter...he's pretty darn athletic too. Just a little intrigued.

To the person who posted that, is there any report of IU being interested? 

 

Supposedly IU has been in contact with some level of interest. As of right now he's still at IWU or playing overseas. That said he doesn't have to do the whole transfer portal thing the same way since he's not at an NCAA school so there probably wouldn't be the same information as when a guy enters the portal. 

[IowaHoosierFan]

17 minutes ago, tdhoosier said:

Somebody was talking about Kyle Mangas from IWU a couple of pages back (which ai can't find now)....and I kinda brushed it off because he's in the NAIA. But the guy is like 40% from three and scores almost 30 a game. And then I saw his highlight video on Twitter...he's pretty darn athletic too. Just a little intrigued.

To the person who posted that, is there any report of IU being interested? 

 

He's got that jab step back 3 that yogi used to use all the time.  No one uses it anymore and its a killer move

[tdhoosier]

2 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said:

He's got that jab step back 3 that yogi used to use all the time.  No one uses it anymore and its a killer move

He likes to push the ball, he likes to drive and he doesn't shy away from contact. It's almost like he's Galloway with a deadly three point shot. 

[IowaHoosierFan]

1 minute ago, tdhoosier said:

He likes to push the ball, he likes to drive and he doesn't shy away from contact. It's almost like he's Galloway with a deadly three point shot. 

I am sure he wouldn't be quite as impressive against power5 conference players but he looks to have a good motor, quick release and aforementioned jab step.  Will be interesting how he does at big school 

[DC2345]

1 minute ago, IowaHoosierFan said:

I am sure he wouldn't be quite as impressive against power5 conference players but he looks to have a good motor, quick release and aforementioned jab step.  Will be interesting how he does at big school 

It sounds like he'll be at IWU, IU, or overseas. So the only way he'll be playing power 6 is if it's at IU from what I've heard. 

[tdhoosier]

17 minutes ago, Piston Honda said:

This is mostly accurate, but it's just IU or overseas. If IU offers, he will be there. If not, he'll go abroad. IWU is not Big Ten, but they play great comp and have had several D1 transfers on their team, including Johnny Marlin from IU and Evan Maxwell from Kansas - and Mangas has always been the star. IU has talked to his coaches (Tonagel) but I am not sure how interested they are. 

I understand the drop off between leagues, but is there any reason he couldn't flll a Ziesloft type role? Perhaps if me miss on some other targets we're recruiting from the portal. One intangible for Mangas is that the dude obviously knows how to win. 

[DC2345]

3 minutes ago, tdhoosier said:

I understand the drop off between leagues, but is there any reason he couldn't flll a Ziesloft type role? Perhaps if me miss on some other targets we're recruiting from the portal. One intangible for Mangas is that the dude obviously knows how to win. 

Minimum he could be a great shooter off of the bench. That's the one skill he has that will for sure translate. 

[GaloisGroupe]

17 minutes ago, Piston Honda said:

This is mostly accurate, but it's just IU or overseas. If IU offers, he will be there. If not, he'll go abroad. IWU is not Big Ten, but they play great comp and have had several D1 transfers on their team, including Johnny Marlin from IU and Evan Maxwell from Kansas - and Mangas has always been the star. IU has talked to his coaches (Tonagel) but I am not sure how interested they are. 

Speculating, but our interest may depend on who else we might get from the portal.

One year from a shooter is more interesting than banking the scholarship.

 

[dgambill]

Just now, DC2345 said:

Minimum he could be a great shooter off of the bench. That's the one skill he has that will for sure translate. 

Yeah...you'd have to run him around like a Ryan Cline type....set multiple screens to get him open. That or float him to the corner to spot up. Definitely enough game to get a shot off when defenders come flying out on him. I really think his defense would be suspect though. More straight line speed then quickness if you know what I'm saying. I just think Anthony Leal should be developed into this type of player at our level. Similar size/speed combo. Has the ability to be a shooting specialist. We will see though.

[dgambill]

I see the catsup kid talk has settled down. I wonder if his family just starts these rumors for publicity and followers...makes me wonder. Be interesting though as he could still shake loose if UK adds a piece or two at his position in the portal.

[tdhoosier]

5 minutes ago, dgambill said:

Yeah...you'd have to run him around like a Ryan Cline type....set multiple screens to get him open. That or float him to the corner to spot up. Definitely enough game to get a shot off when defenders come flying out on him. I really think his defense would be suspect though. More straight line speed then quickness if you know what I'm saying. I just think Anthony Leal should be developed into this type of player at our level. Similar size/speed combo. Has the ability to be a shooting specialist. We will see though.

Definitely know what you're saying; there was a 'straight line' play in that highlight reel where he ran the floor and blocked a shot on the back board. I was like: Whaaaaaaaat? haha. He got up high for a 6'5" guy

Edited April 14, 2021 by tdhoosier

[Hoosierfan1901]

1 hour ago, NotIThatLives said:

Are the rumors true or not that Joey wanted to start law school and IU said no to playing and law school at the same time?

If that's the case, then it's a simple business decision for Brunk.  Stay debt free and walk with a law degree.  Pretty impressive and a great way to start his adulthood journey.  

That is a strong possibility too, since Law School is time consuming along with Basketball. 

[GaloisGroupe]

4 minutes ago, Piston Honda said:

He can play a key role at a D1 level, IMO. It will be about fit. Since I have not seen the Woodson offense, it's hard to say if it would work, but IWU plays the 4-out-1 in with a legit big in 7'0 Seth Maxwell. I don't think he's just a Ziesloft or Roth type. Not saying he'd have this impact, but he's got slasher in him like Will Sheehey.

With the new transfer rules, it could be a nice tradition going forward to give a senior/grad transfer player that grew up an IU fan a year on the team. Someone with a particular skill that can help us and will be happy to play his part.

[DC2345]

2 minutes ago, dgambill said:

Yeah...you'd have to run him around like a Ryan Cline type....set multiple screens to get him open. That or float him to the corner to spot up. Definitely enough game to get a shot off when defenders come flying out on him. I really think his defense would be suspect though. More straight line speed then quickness if you know what I'm saying. I just think Anthony Leal should be developed into this type of player at our level. Similar size/speed combo. Has the ability to be a shooting specialist. We will see though.

I completely agree. Hypothetically I could see getting a guy like Mangas who is for sure only playing one season. Then developing Leal to fill that role moving forward if the staff isn't sure Leal will be ready for next season to 100% fill that need. I think Leal will be really good in that role at some point I just am not sure how quickly that will be. 

[rico]

3 minutes ago, dgambill said:

I see the catsup kid talk has settled down. I wonder if his family just starts these rumors for publicity and followers...makes me wonder. Be interesting though as he could still shake loose if UK adds a piece or two at his position in the portal.

It does appear that KBS has a "vested" interest in his son's future or lack thereof.  

 

[DC2345]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

That is a strong possibility too, since Law School is time consuming along with Basketball. 

Then Brunk should've just said that he's done with his career but that's not what he said. He's transferring to play somewhere. 

[GaloisGroupe]

3 minutes ago, DC2345 said:

Then Brunk should've just said that he's done with his career but that's not what he said. He's transferring to play somewhere. 

I think the point was that Brunk wants to start his law degree and have the first year paid for with a Basketball scholarship and IU said that they did not want him in law school and on the team. 

I am not saying that this is the case, just that I believe it is what was being discussed. 

Edited April 14, 2021 by GaloisGroupe

[NotIThatLives]

7 minutes ago, DC2345 said:

Then Brunk should've just said that he's done with his career but that's not what he said. He's transferring to play somewhere. 

I do wish teams and players would be more clear about these sorts of things.  We have heard this rumor for about a year.  

I guess we will find out if he goes to Depaul, etc and his major is Law school.  

[IUfaninIllinois]

8 minutes ago, DC2345 said:

I completely agree. Hypothetically I could see getting a guy like Mangas who is for sure only playing one season. Then developing Leal to fill that role moving forward if the staff isn't sure Leal will be ready for next season to 100% fill that need. I think Leal will be really good in that role at some point I just am not sure how quickly that will be. 

So I’m not sure how his family is on money but hear me out. He wants to play at IU but IU doesn’t have a spot for him because they needed to fill the past two spots with more of known power 5 players. We could offer him a preferred walk on spot and if he proves himself then we offer him a scholarship next year. If he wants a masters degree it would take two years anyways and he only has one year of eligibility left so he would have to pay for his final year of his masters degree next year anyways.

[IUfaninIllinois]

7 minutes ago, GaloisGroupe said:

I think the point was that Brunk wants to start his law degree and have the first year paid for with a Basketball scholarship and IU said that they did not want him in law school and on the team. 

I am not saying that this is the case, just that I believe it is what was being discussed. 

I didn’t think it was an IU rule I thought it was the law school who has that rule. Also he didn’t count towards the scholarships this year so technically IU had the choice to say we are going to pay for school or we aren’t. Maybe with Covid IU said it wasn’t in the budget to approve him to come another year and he’d have to pay on his own.