GaloisGroupe Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, Piston Honda said: I hope Leal pans out and I root for all kids who go to IU, but I feel Mangas is a better player that would add more to next year's team. Again, no idea if the interest will turn into an offer, but he is more of a complete player than he is getting credit for. Him winning multiple NAIA player of the year awards is a pretty good indicator he could be a legit contributor on a good D1 team. My opinion: Mangas coming would be excellent for Leal. The coaching staff will be developing their offense in the next year. Mangas coming could cause them to build a role that Leal could step into the following year. I do not see any reason that Leal will not pan out. He was only a freshman in a Covid year. My understand from people in the know was that he would be a junior/senior contributor. He seems right on pace to me. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, IUfaninIllinois said: I didn’t think it was an IU rule I thought it was the law school who has that rule. Also he didn’t count towards the scholarships this year so technically IU had the choice to say we are going to pay for school or we aren’t. Maybe with Covid IU said it wasn’t in the budget to approve him to come another year and he’d have to pay on his own. It probably is the law school's rule (I do not know anything about the rule itself). But assuming someone at IU imposes this rule and Brunk wants to have his law degree (partially) paid for with his athletic scholarship, he would have to go somewhere else. Law school is not cheap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 hours ago, NCHoosier32 said: i still can't believe we couldn't have used him 8-10 minutes a game. if that's what he was told and wasn't good with it, then i get it. seems weird though. does he expect 20 + minutes a game somewhere coming off a back injury? Depending on who else we get, I could see Race getting most of the backup time at the 4 and the 5, leaving Joey down to a pretty small role. Race was already playing more minutes than Joey two seasons ago at the end of the year, and now Race has a year of starting and playing major minutes under his belt and Joey is coming off of a back injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, GaloisGroupe said: It probably is the law school's rule (I do not know anything about the rule itself). But assuming someone at IU imposes this rule and Brunk wants to have his law degree (partially) paid for with his athletic scholarship, he would have to go somewhere else. Law school is not cheap... Better half worked days and went to law school at night. Got out for just a tad over $100k in student loans. Nope. Not cheap at all. Regarding Brunk. Unless he's some Good Will Hunting dude....the amount of reading/studying first year of law school has just doesn't jive with also being a full time hoops player in P5 school. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Better half worked days and went to law school at night. Got out for just a tad over $100k in student loans. Nope. Not cheap at all. Regarding Brunk. Unless he's some Good Will Hunting dude....the amount of reading/studying first year of law school has just doesn't jive with also being a full time hoops player in P5 school. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Better half worked days and went to law school at night. Got out for just a tad over $100k in student loans. Nope. Not cheap at all. Regarding Brunk. Unless he's some Good Will Hunting dude....the amount of reading/studying first year of law school has just doesn't jive with also being a full time hoops player in P5 school. That makes sense. If Brunk is clever (and wants to be a lawyer), he will go a place with a good law degree and basketball team for which he is WAY to good so he does not have to work as hard on his training (UPENN or Yale or something - if they offer athletic scholarships). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, GaloisGroupe said: That makes sense. If Brunk is clever (and wants to be a lawyer), he will go a place with a good law degree and basketball team for which he is WAY to good so he does not have to work as hard on his training (UPENN or Yale or something - if they offer athletic scholarships). If he's clever or smart he'll drop basketball before he seriously injures himself again and moves on with his life. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, GaloisGroupe said: It probably is the law school's rule (I do not know anything about the rule itself). But assuming someone at IU imposes this rule and Brunk wants to have his law degree (partially) paid for with his athletic scholarship, he would have to go somewhere else. Law school is not cheap... Yep exactly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, GaloisGroupe said: That makes sense. If Brunk is clever (and wants to be a lawyer), he will go a place with a good law degree and basketball team for which he is WAY to good so he does not have to work as hard on his training (UPENN or Yale or something - if they offer athletic scholarships). He’s technically not eligible for a scholarship so whatever school gets him would figure out a way to let him come for free.. my guess is academic scholarship if he’s smart enough to be a lawyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, IUfaninIllinois said: He’s technically not eligible for a scholarship so whatever school gets him would figure out a way to let him come for free.. my guess is academic scholarship if he’s smart enough to be a lawyer. Didn't COVID give "everyone" an additional year of eligibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 56 minutes ago, GaloisGroupe said: That makes sense. If Brunk is clever (and wants to be a lawyer), he will go a place with a good law degree and basketball team for which he is WAY to good so he does not have to work as hard on his training (UPENN or Yale or something - if they offer athletic scholarships). They do not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 Anthony Gaines leaves Northwestern for Siena... He was a solid back-up and part time starter for the Wildcats... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 I never thought Brooks was coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bowhunter said: I never thought Brooks was coming Never saw anyone who did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 hours ago, KoB2011 said: Depending on who else we get, I could see Race getting most of the backup time at the 4 and the 5, leaving Joey down to a pretty small role. Race was already playing more minutes than Joey two seasons ago at the end of the year, and now Race has a year of starting and playing major minutes under his belt and Joey is coming off of a back injury. i know the game has changed so much, but if Race doesn't start alongside TJD, at this point our 2nd tallest starter would be 6'7.'' i guess Race is only listed an inch shorter than TJD, but wouldn't we be awful small if Race is our backup 5 and Hunter is our 4 and when he goes out??? i guess that's just the new style of play, but will we have trouble guarding bigger teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, btownqb said: Never saw anyone who did. I did the first time lol. Now I'm I'll believe it when he signs lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: i know the game has changed so much, but if Race doesn't start alongside TJD, at this point our 2nd tallest starter would be 6'7.'' i guess Race is only listed an inch shorter than TJD, but wouldn't we be awful small if Race is our backup 5 and Hunter is our 4 and when he goes out??? i guess that's just the new style of play, but will we have trouble guarding bigger teams? I don't really see any of that being a detriment at all. Baylors "4" was 6'5. Gonzaga's was 6'7. Houston went 6'7 and 6'8 in their front court. We still want to add a 6'7+ kid that is a 4, but no I don't really see height as being a problem. What team would exploit it? What teams are the bigger teams that would give us problems? I'll give you FSU, but they gave us problems when Race and Trayce started, so I don't see the big deal. We have to be able to spread teams before anything else. Edited April 14, 2021 by btownqb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 I think going into a year.. if you have Hunter, Race, RP, and ?? off your bench... I think you like where you're at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: i know the game has changed so much, but if Race doesn't start alongside TJD, at this point our 2nd tallest starter would be 6'7.'' i guess Race is only listed an inch shorter than TJD, but wouldn't we be awful small if Race is our backup 5 and Hunter is our 4 and when he goes out??? i guess that's just the new style of play, but will we have trouble guarding bigger teams? Not if we have a bunch of tough minded kids....Final Four team, Houston did not have a player on their roster over 6'8". Defense is a mindset. Liked what Fife was saying about Phinesee being the head of the snake on defense. We just need to get a toughness instilled like a Buckner, Fife, Jim Thomas, Coverdale, Moye brought to the floor, game in/game out. Need to develop an attitude where we have leaders who get pissed off when an opponent starts to go off. We haven't had that for some time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, btownqb said: Never saw anyone who did. I saw plenty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 Just now, Bowhunter said: I saw plenty ehh.. I don't think so. Sure people were speculating and excited. I think as fans we always have a "dream team." Nothing they did was abnormal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 hours ago, GaloisGroupe said: Didn't COVID give "everyone" an additional year of eligibility? Yes but he doesn’t count towards the scholarships so it’s up to the university to decide if they want to pay for the schooling or not. They can say yes you play your additional year but we aren’t paying for the schooling or room and board. I would assume most schools will pay if they want player back bad enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 54 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: i know the game has changed so much, but if Race doesn't start alongside TJD, at this point our 2nd tallest starter would be 6'7.'' i guess Race is only listed an inch shorter than TJD, but wouldn't we be awful small if Race is our backup 5 and Hunter is our 4 and when he goes out??? i guess that's just the new style of play, but will we have trouble guarding bigger teams? Well I don't think this is our final roster but if it is I see your point. That said, won't other teams have trouble guarding us? Why do we have to adjust to them instead of making them adjust to what we are doing? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Well I don't think this is our final roster but if it is I see your point. That said, won't other teams have trouble guarding us? Why do we have to adjust to them instead of making them adjust to what we are doing? This is so underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, btownqb said: This is so underrated. 100%. And the thing is, if you're smaller and quicker, while you may have some disadvantage on defense because of that, it also gives you an advantage in terms of how you can pressure, help and recover, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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