KoB2011 Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, btownqb said: Nope. They're the same. Pros to college. They are all the same, didn't work for him... got it? They're the same. 😆 And it ignores that Charlie Weiss was really good until his laziness recruiting caught up to him. I think it's fair to be concerned about Woodson recruiting, but we all surely recognize recruiting a team of 13 is a lot different than a team of 85. Actually... I'm sure some people don't realize the differences.... 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 Yesterday I was disappointed. Today after more research and consideration I am cautiously optimistic, intrigued, and on board. A coach hire will not change how I feel about IU basketball. It’s in my blood. When I consider we have 2 of the guys that were on many lists I couldn’t be more intrigued by that. Let’s go IU! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: And it ignores that Charlie Weiss was really good until his laziness recruiting caught up to him. I think it's fair to be concerned about Woodson recruiting, but we all surely recognize recruiting a team of 13 is a lot different than a team of 85. Actually... I'm sure some people don't realize the differences.... Jay Williams said this morning that recruiting won't be a problem as WWW would be a huge help. Not sure how I feel about that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: And it ignores that Charlie Weiss was really good until his laziness recruiting caught up to him. I think it's fair to be concerned about Woodson recruiting, but we all surely recognize recruiting a team of 13 is a lot different than a team of 85. Actually... I'm sure some people don't realize the differences.... The recruiting concerns are valid. Matta was just a great addition. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I don't think anyone has said he is a homerun hire or that this could fail because it certainly can. I just think all fans should get behind the coach and the program and try to make it great again. I think the program needs total support to get back to being elite and not have the fan base fractured. I did not like the last 3 hires but I backed them until they prve to me that they couldn't get the job done. This is where you are always wrong Scott. You assume because people didn't like the hire or have something other than 100% positivity that they are not behind the program or that the fanbase is fractured. The program is bigger and will last longer than any one hire. I can love IU basketball and hate the administration, the coach and the current roster of players (not that i do, just an example). That doesn't change my love for the program. Coaches will come and go. Players will come and go. IU basketball will be there when they are dead and gone. I don't have to love the hire. I don't have to put on a smile and rah rah rah. I can say this hire sucks. I don't think it will work. And we'll be back here in 4 years. But game night, i will root for IU to win and for us to hang another banner. I love being proven wrong. But i don't need you or any other mouth breather telling me i am bad fan because i don't subscribe to your version of fandom. so STFU and move on if someone doesn't agree with you 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, dbmhoosier said: Jay Williams said this morning that recruiting won't be a problem as WWW would be a huge help. Not sure how I feel about that. where is the connection to WWW? i would think that would help a lot. just makes me feel dirty talking about him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 Just now, NCHoosier32 said: where is the connection to WWW? i would think that would help a lot. just makes me feel dirty talking about him though. Believe WWW is with Knicks organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 Just now, IowaHoosierFan said: This is where you are always wrong Scott. You assume because people didn't like the hire or have something other than 100% positivity that they are not behind the program or that the fanbase is fractured. The program is bigger and will last longer than any one hire. I can love IU basketball and hate the administration, the coach and the current roster of players (not that i do, just an example). That doesn't change my love for the program. Coaches will come and go. Players will come and go. IU basketball will be there when they are dead and gone. I don't have to love the hire. I don't have to put on a smile and rah rah rah. I can say this hire sucks. I don't think it will work. And we'll be back here in 4 years. But game night, i will root for IU to win and for us to hang another banner. I love being proven wrong. But i don't need you or any other mouth breather telling me i am bad fan because i don't subscribe to your version of fandom. so STFU and move on if someone doesn't agree with you amen brutha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxnJxn Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 Man, there's a lot of gatekeeping with respect to how to be an IU fan. If you don't like the hire, you're a hater, or should be kicked off the board. Nice. Anyone got a copy of the rule book for what is allowed? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderMonkey Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) I mentioned in the other thread that I was initially not on board with a potential Woodson hire as the HC. After reading, watching and researching Mike Woodson over the past day and listening to the press conference I am fully on board. I think this was a well thought out hire and I think he can succeed here. It isn't the big name I was looking for, but I am excited about the hire now. I am am optimistic and I think he can do some really good things here. The Thad Matta addition to the AD office I think will pay huge dividends and will really help Woody transition to the differences between the NBA and College. Edited March 29, 2021 by SpiderMonkey 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) Dakich likes the hire. But I turned him on and he was mocking the role of Matta. He made fun of the notion that he grew up a fan of IU because Dan actually busted his butt for IU. Then Dan ridiculed Matta’s role as making sure the travel was ok. Dan is smarter than that. Matta is a pro. He knows the recruiting landscape and how to succeed at it in Indiana (Oden, Conley, Thomas), Ohio etc. He has contacts for staff. He knows the conference. Also, he might not be on the bench, but presumably he’s another set of eyes. He will be able to tell Woody what he saw as a top coach the next day or whatever. I think Matta is a huge asset. Hopefully he keeps his ego in check and the relationship with Woody goes really well. Edited March 29, 2021 by BobSaccamanno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Jay Williams said this morning that recruiting won't be a problem as WWW would be a huge help. Not sure how I feel about that. I don't know if it was WWW but didn't we have some concerns with a friend of the program some years back about some shady dealings. I have this vague memory about the board talking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CampHoosier Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 Having seen the talk that Archie didn’t have his whole heart in this job and seeing horrible basketball for 4 years, I’m excited. I’m happy that no one is calling this a grand slam hire because that’s what Miller was lauded as. He’s an Indiana guy and this means a lot to him. Brighter days. I’m fully on board. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said: Believe WWW is with Knicks organization. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, btownqb said: @Mike_WoodsonIU Knew twitter handle for coach. He's already posted twice. He'll need to be much more active on this account than he was on his past one. (nothing wrong with that) Honestly i would think this account will be run by multiple people, not just Mike, in this day and age a social media marketing person should be making sure this account stays hot and fresh with posts all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CampHoosier Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, BobSaccamanno said: Dakich likes the hire. But I turned him on and he was mocking the role of Matta. He made fun of the notion that he grew up a fan of IU because he busted his butt for IU. Then he ridiculed his role as making sure the travel was ok. Dan is smarter than that. Matta is a pro. He knows the recruiting landscape and how to succeed at it in Indiana (Oden, Conley, Thomas), Ohio etc. He has contacts for staff. Also, he might not be on the bench, but presumably he’s another set of eyes. He will be able to tell Woody what he saw as a top coach. I think Matta is a huge asset. Hopefully he keeps his ego in check and the relationship with Woody goes really well. Dan is not smarter than that. Biggest egomaniac I’ve ever listened to. He thinks he should’ve been given the keys after Sampson got canned and has never let it go 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, SpiderMonkey said: I mentioned in the other thread that I was initially not board with Woodson as the HC. After reading and researching Mike Woodson and listening to the press conference I am fully on board. I think this was a well thought out hire and I think he can succeed here. I'm excited to see how this goes. I am am optimistic. Basically the same for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 Just now, dbmhoosier said: Jay Williams said this morning that recruiting won't be a problem as WWW would be a huge help. Not sure how I feel about that. It seems like WWW has not been around the college game in a while. At least, I don't here his name. It seemed like he had well-established relationships with that crop of kids from Lebron to Anthony Davis and now they're all in the NBA. I think he's technically employed by the Knicks, so i'm not sure how much meddling he does in college any more. But if Woody can use Wes to his advantage without crossing the line, then I'm all for it. And who knows if he has a role in today's college game with the NLI rules going into effect. ....Woody, did thank him in the press conference, which was interesting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, iuthruandthru said: Honestly i would think this account will be run by multiple people, not just Mike, in this day and age a social media marketing person should be making sure this account stays hot and fresh with posts all the time. oh absolutely it will be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUaic Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, GrangerHoosier said: SMH. Yeah the only reasonable explanation for someone not totally on board with this hire is that they're a hater. SMH. I've read enough of your posts to have you pegged. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Between2Halls said: Basically the same for me. mostly i am beige to it. Really want to see how he recruits. What kind of development he gets out of those who stay and what product we put on the floor. I don't care if he played for Bob Knight. I don't care he was part of the 75 team. I don't care that he has coaches in the NBA. I care that he can win games. Winning will make everyone happy. Period. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: where is the connection to WWW? i would think that would help a lot. just makes me feel dirty talking about him though. Through the Knicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 38 minutes ago, btownqb said: Not to be rude at all... but GS is the golden child of how to build a basketball team right now. Everyone wants to be them. I didnt say it was a revolutionary idea. 🤷♂️😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: mostly i am beige to it. Really want to see how he recruits. What kind of development he gets out of those who stay and what product we put on the floor. I don't care if he played for Bob Knight. I don't care he was part of the 75 team. I don't care that he has coaches in the NBA. I care that he can win games. Winning will make everyone happy. Period. Yea plenty of questions to be answered. I’m not ecstatic, but I am hopeful. What we have been doing has not really worked at all, so this could be just what is needed. As with anything time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: mostly i am beige to it. Really want to see how he recruits. What kind of development he gets out of those who stay and what product we put on the floor. I don't care if he played for Bob Knight. I don't care he was part of the 75 team. I don't care that he has coaches in the NBA. I care that he can win games. Winning will make everyone happy. Period. He wasn't. You don't care that he coaches in the NBA? Good luck recruiting in current landscape of CBB. Edited March 29, 2021 by btownqb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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