FKIM01 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: OOC wins for Gonzaga Kansas Auburn. W. Virgina. Iowa. Virginia He's got a point though...don't see them getting through a tougher conference undefeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 Just now, FKIM01 said: He's got a point though...don't see them getting through a tougher conference undefeated. Nobody is saying they would go undefeated in the power conferences but they would win them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: OOC wins for Gonzaga Kansas Auburn. W. Virgina. Iowa. Virginia I will give them Auburn but the rest, could they beat the twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 minute ago, mrflynn03 said: I will give them Auburn but the rest, could they beat the twice? I would say so because they killed each one of them except for W.Virginia. I did not say they would go undefeated in the power conference but I think they would win all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 Just now, IU Scott said: Nobody is saying they would go undefeated in the power conferences but they would win them THIS year, yes. I would agree they would be a favorite to win about any conference in the country. ...but they would be a longshot to go undefeated. In that regard it's hard to argue their weak conference has not been a huge aid in their quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: Not gonna lie, I'm in denial. If they win out what does IU have left legacy wise. Nothing. It's up to Woody to restore hope, which no matter what happens I believe he can do it. Totally get it man. I don't personally care if they go undefeated but I get that I'm in the minority of IU fans on that; or at least die hard IU fans. I do think Woody is proving pretty quickly he has the chops for the job. He'll have to prove it on the court, but I love everything he's done thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: THIS year, yes. I would agree they would be a favorite to win about any conference in the country. ...but they would be a longshot to go undefeated. In that regard it's hard to argue their weak conference has not been a huge aid in their quest. Thanks for the help. I haven't articulated well, in a normal human year we all are used to, no way in hell would Gonzaga ever go undefeated. IU did it last. UNC did it too and Sam Gilbert paid for all of UCLA'S championships. That's why the 76 season is so special. Bobby did it right and clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Totally get it man. I don't personally care if they go undefeated but I get that I'm in the minority of IU fans on that; or at least die hard IU fans. I do think Woody is proving pretty quickly he has the chops for the job. He'll have to prove it on the court, but I love everything he's done thus far. I wasnt sure at first but after his press conference and the TJD interview, I'm stoked. Really feeling hopefull for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Totally get it man. I don't personally care if they go undefeated but I get that I'm in the minority of IU fans on that; or at least die hard IU fans. I do think Woody is proving pretty quickly he has the chops for the job. He'll have to prove it on the court, but I love everything he's done thus far. It would bother me more of we were the only team to have went undefeated but we are not the only ones. Do teams before 1985 when they expanded the tournament have an * by their wins. Back then you had byes and could win 2 or 3 games and make the final four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: It would bother me more of we were the only team to have went undefeated but we are not the only ones. Do teams before 1985 when they expanded the tournament have an * by their wins. Back then you had byes and could win 2 or 3 games and make the final four. I would give UNC some credit because they did it twice I believe last time in 1956? But screw all of UCLA'S championships and undefeated seasons. John Wooden didn't do sh$t for like 16 years and out of nowhere he wins 10 championships and what, 6 or 7 undefeated seasons? Bullshit. Sam Gilbert paid for that. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: I would give UNC some credit because they did it twice I believe last time in 1956? But screw all of UCLA'S championships and undefeated seasons. John Wooden didn't do sh$t for like 16 years and out of nowhere he wins 10 championships and what, 6 or 7 undefeated seasons? Bullshit. Sam Gilbert paid for that. * How about San Francisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 7 hours ago, mrflynn03 said: I would give UNC some credit because they did it twice I believe last time in 1956? But screw all of UCLA'S championships and undefeated seasons. John Wooden didn't do sh$t for like 16 years and out of nowhere he wins 10 championships and what, 6 or 7 undefeated seasons? Bullshit. Sam Gilbert paid for that. * In addition, I think the tournament had many fewer teams. The tournament was not seeded in the same way so UCLA always played in the West Regional and had to beat teams like Weber State to get to the final four. There were no ACC or Big 10 teams sent west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 Haven't had a chance to read comments from game last night yet. All I'll say is I don't know where that game ranks in all time tourney game history but I know it's up there. Unreal game honestly and hate for UCLA to lose. Proves one more thing when teams poo poo our history, final fours, our titles......it just shows how absolutely difficult is to win a title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd726 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 Hard to root for Baylor, but I am. I think if Gonzaga had a loss (and maybe didn’t have that, IMO, annoying Timme) I would be rooting for them.🤷♂️ Just my $.02 😊🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 Saw this graphic on Twitter after the first half of the UCLA/Zags game last night. Bet you can guess which team is which. Bet you also can’t guess which is @IU Scott’s preferred offense. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, rd726 said: Hard to root for Baylor, but I am. I think if Gonzaga had a loss (and maybe didn’t have that, IMO, annoying Timme) I would be rooting for them.🤷♂️ Just my $.02 😊🤔 My rooting for Baylor is selfish only. Have them in 400 person pool where I can finish 9th and get some loot. Secondly....our 76 team. On the flip side my cousin went to Gonzaga so I'm cheering for his fandom. Just glad we have the 2 best teams all year long playing for a title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 Personally, I want Baylor to win for 2 reasons. The obvious undefeated season thing, and I want to see Timme lose. Really tired of all his shenanigans after he makes a play. Really dislike him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officer Obie Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 If Gonzaga goes undefeated, they earned it. It's a great accomplishment. Full stop. If Indiana State had beaten Michigan St in '79 and gone undefeated, they would have earned it. Full stop. I like saying 'full stop'. Full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 10 hours ago, KoB2011 said: I don't personally care if they go undefeated but I get that I'm in the minority of IU fans on that; or at least die hard IU fans. To be honest I don't care all that much either. It would be different if IU were the only one to ever do it, but I think it's been done seven times. IU has a rich legacy and not just that season. I always give my brother and nephews a hard time because they are Miami Dolphins fans and they really hold on to their undefeated season like it's the only thing the Dolphins have ever accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 so mixed for me. i'd be for Gonzaga for every reason other than our 76 team. i picked them in the pols i am in and would finish 1st in one and 2nd in the other if the Zags win. i like Few. i have nothing against their players. the Hanner Perea thing is tough to get over with Baylor. it's also hard for me to believe Drew got them here being clean. all that said, i really don't want another undefeated team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Haven't had a chance to read comments from game last night yet. All I'll say is I don't know where that game ranks in all time tourney game history but I know it's up there. Unreal game honestly and hate for UCLA to lose. Proves one more thing when teams poo poo our history, final fours, our titles......it just shows how absolutely difficult is to win a title. It should rank right up there with some of the best games of all time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUguy Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 16 hours ago, dgambill said: Well we got the game we all want. If it’s half as exciting as this one we will be in for a treat. UCLA gave us like 3 or 4 of the best games of this tournament. They played great, just p---ed me off against Alabama. Cost me about $800 in parlays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 Two things about a tougher conference. One is you have to play a grind and sometimes it’s the fact it’s back to back to back tough games. Second is you play teams twice....once on the road in their home stadium. 3rd in a normal year with fans road games are much more difficult. A team gets up 10 sometimes the momentum is hard to get back etc. Winning them all is quite an accomplishment...doing it in a lesser conference doesn’t make it less but it also doesn’t make the team better than other teams in the past. Also doing it this year is also kind of an outlier because many teams didn’t respond well to not having prep time (young teams more effected) and no crowds make it a unique circumstance. Heck even that game last night it’s hard to know how people react if the crowd is going crazy and players can’t hear or get rattled. I don’t think it’s nearly as a great of a feat but I am not saying it isn’t impressive. If they beat Baylor they are clearly the best team this year and there is no arguing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 4/3/2021 at 11:17 PM, BGleas said: Yeah, you definitely don't want to foul, but nobody even approached him until past half court. As you said, you gotta make him turn or something. He dribbled straight up the middle of the court uncontested. You can see Cronin yelling to pick him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 Part of making it through the "grind" of a tough conference is health. Can you stay healthy all year and then can you win without a couple of your key guys when they go down...and you will have injuries playing in the B1G...that is for sure. You aren't going through this conference unscathed. I mean look at how Iowa, Ohio St, and Michigan etc all limped into the tournament all suffering injuries to rotation guys...or in Livers case the best player on your team. Beating teams by 20-30 pts and playing against smaller teams and coasting....it does save your body a lot. All that said...if they win it all...they are a deserving champion this year and clear best team in college basketball. I think Baylor will give them a run for their money like UCLA did...I hope both teams play well...if they both do we could get another gem of a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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