IUFLA Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 Again, bored by a slowing off season (after a spurt of initial activity), I made a list of my favorite player from each Big 10 school over the years (the Johnny come latelys I picked based on when they entered the Big 10, not historically)...and my favorite "Villains" (for various reasons...some are pretty easy to figure out)... Pick apart as you like Illinois Fav-Nick Weatherspoon Villain-Alan Griffin Iowa Fav-Luka Garza Villain-Acie Earl Maryland Fav-Melo Trimble Villain-Jalen Smith Michigan Fav-Gary Grant Villain-Antoine Joubert Michigan State Fav-Draymond Green Villain-Magic Johnson Minnesota Fav-Mychael Thompson Villain-Corky Taylor Nebraska Fav-Shavon Shields Villain-Teddy Allen Northwestern Fav-Shon Morris Villain-Mohamed Hachad Ohio State Fav-Jay Burson Villain-Allan Hornyak Penn State Fav-John Harrar Villain-Mike Watkins Purdue Fav-Jerry Sichting Villain-Kyle Macy Rutgers Fav-Myles Johnson Villain-Geo Baker Wisconsin Fav-Devin Harris Villain-Brad Davison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 Villains-- Iowa Jess Settles Purdue take your pick of Brian Cardinal or Chris Kramer Minnesota--the whole lot of them who attacked Rudy Tomjonavich Michigan--could name the entire Fab 5 but will go with Jalen Rose Favorites-- Wisconsin--Michael Finley Iowa--BJ Armstrong Michigan State--Darnell Valentine Michigan--Austin Hatch Ohio State--John Havlicek Illinois-Ayo Dosunmu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Minnesota--the whole lot of them who attacked Rudy Tomjonavich That was OSU's Luke Witte they attacked (and Corky Taylor was the one who kneed Witte in the nuts)...Rudy T ran into Kermit Washington's fist in the NBA... Edited May 12, 2021 by IUFLA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 Just now, IUFLA said: That was OSU's Luke Witte they attacked...Rudy T ran into Kermit's Washington's fist in the NBA... Yeah, I was a little fuzzy on that one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 Just now, Steubenhoosier said: Yeah, I was a little fuzzy on that one. But that Minnesota/OSU fracas was the worst thing I've ever seen in any Big 10 basketball game... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 You guys left Chester Frazier and Meyers Leonard off the Illini list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: You guys left Chester Frazier and Meyers Leonard off the Illini list? I only picked one per team and Griffin's tough guy BS against Rob Phinisee was the freshest in my mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 How is Luke Recker not a villian for Iowa?? Nobody remember the pain of him leaving us and then killing our best chance at a B1G Tournament Championship?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) Favorites - Every player on the 2015 Wisconsin team that beat Kentucky Villains - Any of the players guilty of sexual assault that the conference has refused to do anything about. Edited May 12, 2021 by 5fouls 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 Favorites- absolutely none Villains - all B1G players that aren't IU Loathsome - Toiletmakers and Illini 😝 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1215 Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 llinois Villain-Lucus Johnson Iowa Villain- jaaks Maryland Villain-Juan Dixon... Michigan Villain- Mitch McGrary Michigan State Villain- Draymond green Minnesota Villain- Hoffarber Nebraska Villain-Teddy Allen Ohio State Villain- Craft. By far... not even close. Penn State Villain- DJ newbill Purdue Villain- ugh..Kramer probably Wisconsin Villain-Brad Davison 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUguy Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 7 hours ago, IUFLA said: Again, bored by a slowing off season (after a spurt of initial activity), I made a list of my favorite player from each Big 10 school over the years (the Johnny come latelys I picked based on when they entered the Big 10, not historically)...and my favorite "Villains" (for various reasons...some are pretty easy to figure out)... Pick apart as you like Illinois Fav-Nick Weatherspoon Villain-Alan Griffin Iowa Fav-Luka Garza Villain-Acie Earl Maryland Fav-Melo Trimble Villain-Jalen Smith Michigan Fav-Gary Grant Villain-Antoine Joubert Michigan State Fav-Draymond Green Villain-Magic Johnson Minnesota Fav-Mychael Thompson Villain-Corky Taylor Nebraska Fav-Shavon Shields Villain-Teddy Allen Northwestern Fav-Shon Morris Villain-Mohamed Hachad Ohio State Fav-Jay Burson Villain-Allan Hornyak Penn State Fav-John Harrar Villain-Mike Watkins Purdue Fav-Jerry Sichting Villain-Kyle Macy Rutgers Fav-Myles Johnson Villain-Geo Baker Wisconsin Fav-Devin Harris Villain-Brad Davison How could Magic Johnson be a villain? You have to appreciate greatness! Favorite ever Buckeye has to be Bob Knight! Others can be discussed. As for IU, my favorite will always be Jimmy Rayl. If i have to pick a least favorite it would be Larry Bird, for leaving (yes, I know that's greatness also.). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 Fun topic. My answers are pretty simple. Villains-Mostly fan bases like Illinois, Purdue...and in last 20 years Sparty/Sconny. I have a bigger problem with coaches than players though for a variety of reasons. Henson, Weber, Davis, Raveling, Keady, Painter, Izzo, Williams, Ryan, Frieder, Fisher.....the rest either I don't care enough about or blame our own ineptitude to making games vs Nebraska, Rutgers, Northwestern, Penn St painful to watch some years. I've got plenty of hatred built up over the years but again I blame IU for making the last 20 years impossible to watch at times. Other players I've liked from a distance. Sam Dekker, BJ Armstrong, Scott Skiles....Jay Burson and in a weird way Jalen Rose. I thought he was a punk at the time....but over the years I've changed my opinion on the guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 hours ago, IUguy said: How could Magic Johnson be a villain? You have to appreciate greatness! I do appreciate that Magic is a great basketball talent. Just not my kind of guy... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Hoosierfan1215 said: llinois Villain-Lucus Johnson Iowa Villain- jaaks Maryland Villain-Juan Dixon... Michigan Villain- Mitch McGrary Michigan State Villain- Draymond green Minnesota Villain- Hoffarber Nebraska Villain-Teddy Allen Ohio State Villain- Craft. By far... not even close. Penn State Villain- DJ newbill Purdue Villain- ugh..Kramer probably Wisconsin Villain-Brad Davison Surprised Craft wasn’t mentioned earlier. Perfect Villain that you love to hate, but want him on your team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 6 hours ago, IUguy said: How could Magic Johnson be a villain? You have to appreciate greatness! Favorite ever Buckeye has to be Bob Knight! Others can be discussed. As for IU, my favorite will always be Jimmy Rayl. If i have to pick a least favorite it would be Larry Bird, for leaving (yes, I know that's greatness also.). I wish I could have seen Rayl play. I wish they had good video from that era. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 Villains come to mind. Craft from OSU and Recker from Iowa for being a traitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: 2 Villains come to mind. Craft from OSU and Recker from Iowa for being a traitor. Recker was a kid I totally overestimated. He never reached his potential because he wasn’t willing to be coached hard. He left a lot of meat on the bones for his career. 6’6 with a good skill set. He was happy to play at a certain plateau. Good villain because he was billed as an IU type of player and he was anything but that. The will to win is not nearly as important as the will to prepare to win.Everyone wants to win but not everyone wants to prepare to win. preparing to win is where the determination that you will win, is made. Once the game or test or project is underway, it is too late to prepare to win. The actual game, test or projetc is just the end of a long process of getting ready, in which the outcome was really determined. So if you want to win, you must want to prepare to win. Once you prepare to win, winning is almost anti climatic." - Bobby Knight Bobby Knight I don’t know that the quote could be any more appropriate than it was for Recker. Edited May 13, 2021 by BobSaccamanno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H00sier Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 Man, I remember being so excited about Recker, that whole few years seemed to wreck us between him, Reed, Collier, etc etc etc. Often I’ve wondered if Coach had bent a tad bit, what could he have accomplished. In hindsight we’ve bent so much in every aspect of life, maybe digging in your heels is the proper move. Who knows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach1K Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 6:08 PM, Hoosierfan1215 said: llinois Villain-Lucus Johnson Iowa Villain- jaaks Maryland Villain-Juan Dixon... Michigan Villain- Mitch McGrary Michigan State Villain- Draymond green Minnesota Villain- Hoffarber Nebraska Villain-Teddy Allen Ohio State Villain- Craft. By far... not even close. Penn State Villain- DJ newbill Purdue Villain- ugh..Kramer probably Wisconsin Villain-Brad Davison I was going to see if someone was going to mention Craft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach1K Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 Oh Meyers really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach1K Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 Speaking of more Illini players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 Anybody remember "The Twin Midgets" that were Troy Taylor and Ron Stokes from tOSU? Both were like 5-9, although with the afro Taylor went 6-7, and pesky mofos. I hated those two with a passion. But they were quite the dynamic duo for the Bucks as both finished their careers with over 1,200 pts. And with that said I still dislike them with a passion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, rico said: Anybody remember "The Twin Midgets" that were Troy Taylor and Ron Stokes from tOSU? Both were like 5-9, although with the afro Taylor went 6-7, and pesky mofos. I hated those two with a passion. But they were quite the dynamic duo for the Bucks as both finished their careers with over 1,200 pts. And with that said I still dislike them with a passion. Yeah, I remember them...early 80s, right? They were pesky, but not nearly as annoying as Allan Hornyak in the early 70s... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: Yeah, I remember them...early 80s, right? They were pesky, but not nearly as annoying as Allan Hornyak in the early 70s... Yeah, the early 80's...81-85. BTW, I don't remember Hornyass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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