KoB2011 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 To be clear - I don’t think you’re that, but I do think the same logic applies. I didn’t call you that at all and seeing as I don’t think you’re stupid, I think you know that and are mad the tables got turned on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychobat Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, btownqb said: I've yet to see a situation be "better" because opposing coaches discussed "issues" after a game. I understand that is the way a lot of coaches handle these things, I wasn't trying to say you were wrong in that instance. I'm saying, if I was JH THAT mad, I would have been trying to do the exact same thing he was doing by walking by. He doesn't owe Gard ANYTHING. I think it was stupid for Gard to attempt to talk to him, I think it was infinitely more stupid to try and KEEP talking to him when it was clear nothing was going to be solved. Now, this is all with the understanding that what JH did is in no way shape or form ok. I'm just not surprised Krabbenhoft got slapped by the way he acted. As in, I've seen that scenario unfold before. Howard didn't have to lift his mask and say "I'll remember that shit" either -- that's what caused Gard to try to get him to stop so that he could explain why he called the timeout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, psychobat said: Howard didn't have to lift his mask and say "I'll remember that shit" either -- that's what caused Gard to try to get him to stop so that he could explain why he called the timeout. Yes I agree. Thought Gard could have realized it wasn't going to produce anything positive, having a discussion with JH, at that point. The whole thing was a problem BEFORE Krabbenhoft came over. Then it escalated into a bigger problem. Then it escalated into a MASSIVE problem when JH threw his hook. Then it escalated even MORE when the players threw haymakers. That, imo, was the order of events. Not all parties are at equal fault, but all parties share the blame. I simply wasnt surprised by anyone's actions, at that point in time, I think both sides are... I don't care for either side. I don't think either side are mature, I don't know how many good people are in each of those programs. 🤷♂️.. their actions yesterday seemed to back that up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Billingsley99 said: Just as a point of reference Howard called timeout with 14 seconds left down big to Ohio State. To execute that 15 point play they just put in. Pot meet Kettle. Carry on. He also called timeout up 16 with 50 seconds against IU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychobat Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, btownqb said: Yes I agree. Thought Gard could have realized it wasn't going to produce anything positive, having a discussion with JH, at that point. The whole thing was a problem BEFORE Krabbenhoft came over. Then it escalated into a bigger problem. Then it escalated into a MASSIVE problem when JH threw his hook. Then it escalated even MORE when the players threw haymakers. That, imo, was the order of events. Not all parties are at equal fault, but all parties share the blame. I simply wasnt surprised by anyone's actions, at that point in time, I think both sides are... I don't care for either side. I don't think either side are mature, I don't know how many good people are in each of those programs. 🤷♂️.. their actions yesterday seemed to back that up. Totally agree with everything here. Let's wait to see if each University and the BIG10 do the right thing........my guess is that they won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Just now, psychobat said: Totally agree with everything here. Let's wait to see if each University and the BIG10 do the right thing........my guess is that they won't. What would you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychobat Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: What would you do? I would Suspend Howard for the rest of the season (given the severity of the situation and the fact that he's had previous issues with similar (Maryland last year) situations. I would Suspend Gard for 1-2 games.......Krabbenhoft for probably 1 and any player that threw punches 3 games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 I see everyone talking about which coaches should be suspended by but Diabate and #5 for UM should get at least 5 games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Busy day on my end. Just popping in to remind you all to play nice. I mean really, we are all on the same team here. We even have boilermakers that have established a home here. Proving IU is and always has been superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Take a break, have a cold drink and enjoy this carnival clip to brighten your day… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Fighting is something that can come from competition. This is way overblown in my mind. It was open-handed, while jumping over 3 people, and did absolutely no damage. Howard looks like a hot-head. Gard looks like someone with an attitude problem. And Krabbenbutt comes across as one of those guys who think they are tough when they are behind a wall of people. Suspend the three coaches, as well as the players that threw punches and move on. And, if they want to suspend Davison for being a douche, I'm okay with that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Fighting is something that can come from competition. This is way overblown in my mind. It was open-handed, while jumping over 3 people, and did absolutely no damage. Howard looks like a hot-head. Gard looks like someone with an attitude problem. And Krabbenbutt comes across as one of those guys who think they are tough when they are behind a wall of people. Suspend the three coaches, as well as the players that threw punches and move on. And, if they want to suspend Davison for being a douche, I'm okay with that. I would hope the conference would get statements from the players and coaches involved before handing out suspensions. I would also hope that everyone on MI says it all started with Davison. I would hope suspensions get announced today- and they are more sever than what people expect. I understand that none of that is likely to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, Inequality said: Take a break, have a cold drink and enjoy this carnival clip to brighten your day… He really has a fascination with tapping guys in junk. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Fighting is something that can come from competition. This is way overblown in my mind. It was open-handed, while jumping over 3 people, and did absolutely no damage. Howard looks like a hot-head. Gard looks like someone with an attitude problem. And Krabbenbutt comes across as one of those guys who think they are tough when they are behind a wall of people. Suspend the three coaches, as well as the players that threw punches and move on. And, if they want to suspend Davison for being a douche, I'm okay with that. Davidson should be suspended for another nut punch. Completely unacceptable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: He really has a fascination with tapping guys in junk. To a strange level. In all the sports I played in my day, which was all that I could squeeze in, racking dudes never crossed my mind. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 36 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Davidson should be suspended for another nut punch. Completely unacceptable. What always frustrates me is that these leagues always say how much film their officials watch, etc. So if Big Ten officials watch film and study their calls and everything, then shouldn't they know that if Davison ends up on the ground that there is a super high likelihood that he flopped? If a guy ends up on the ground and Davison is either also on the ground or near, that there is a 99.9% chance it was because of something Davison did? If Davison takes a charge, then there's a huge chance he slid in late and flopped. Wouldn't they know all these things? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsIUDomer Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 After watching the video over and over, I wish we could see what happens to Howard after the slap, it seems like he gets pushed back toward his bench, he goes down and a real frenzy is on for a moment. At first I thought it was with fans, but I now assume it was his own players or staff? I dunno, but he for sure lost touch with reality for a few seconds. In those same video reviews, I see Davidson during the melee circling the perimeter of the fight, doing nothing but hiding behind other guys. THEN, as seen in the second floor video, after Mich is basically in the tunnel, he can been seen hamming it up for the cameras like he's a tough guy. It's like watching that little cartoon dog that follows Butch. What a duuuush. Like my old asst bball coach used to say 'A guy you just wanna punch when he steps off the team bus' The next couple days should be interesting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 I just wish we could have had both teams on our schedule after the suspensions come down instead of before. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 59 minutes ago, ColtsIUDomer said: In those same video reviews, I see Davidson during the melee circling the perimeter of the fight, doing nothing but hiding behind other guys. THEN, as seen in the second floor video, after Mich is basically in the tunnel, he can been seen hamming it up for the cameras like he's a tough guy. It's like watching that little cartoon dog that follows Butch. What a duuuush. Like my old asst bball coach used to say 'A guy you just wanna punch when he steps off the team bus' Davison is Grover Dill from A Christmas Story. Tough guy as long as Farkus is around 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: Davison is Grover Dill from A Christmas Story. Tough guy as long as Farkus is around OT fun fact... Yano Anaya who played Grover... also played a young Michael Anthony in the Van Halen "Hot for teacher" video. And now you know. Go Hoosiers!!! 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: Davison is Grover Dill from A Christmas Story. Tough guy as long as Farkus is around Related to that film, Davison sticks his tongue on a lot of poles and has been known to make contact with other mens groin. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Related to that film, Davison sticks his tongue on a lot of poles and has been known to make contact with other mens groin. Davisons “all ball” claims were spot on 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steubenhoosier Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 5 hours ago, KoB2011 said: Are you comparing talking a lot of crap on the court, wearing black socks and long shorts to a decade plus of dirty play? The only overlap I see is the trash talk… Nope. Talking a mindset. The Fab 5 represented a culture that was a lot more than baggy shorts and trash talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 3 hours ago, KoB2011 said: To be clear - I don’t think you’re that, but I do think the same logic applies. I didn’t call you that at all and seeing as I don’t think you’re stupid, I think you know that and are mad the tables got turned on you. I'm not mad at all. I do kinda feel sorry for you that you don't recognize what on one hand is a valid question (if @btownqb condones what Juwan Howard did, he might be susceptible to doing that himself...he is a coach by the way) versus looking at what Gard did and equating it to condoning sexual assault. That is at best trying to buttress a poor point by making unwanted advances a punchline and at worst minimizing sexual misconduct... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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