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28 minutes ago, btownqb said:

No chance those two guys are making more in NIL then they would their rookie contract in the NBA, no way. 

You probably are right, but this is a brave new world. Who knows what some alum or group of alums would pony up to keep player(s) they think could bring them a championship. We're also talking Michigan here. Not exactly a bastion of ethical conduct. 

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39 minutes ago, btownqb said:

No chance those two guys are making more in NIL then they would their rookie contract in the NBA, no way. 

That's true but if you're a kid like Houstan, who has struggled a bit in college ball, you have to look at where you'll be drafted too, or if you're going to be drafted at all...Before his freshman year, he was more highly rated on draft boards than he is now...

If he went today and went say #30, his rookie contract is going to guarantee about $4 million over 3 years according to this scale.

If he goes back to Michigan for one more year and can improve into the top 10, he can almost triple that...

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58 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

No promises at all because everyone apparently is a good shooter until they get to IU. Gunn is a player that I think will be earning minutes quickly next year as we transition away from post offense. Have watched him 4x this year and I keep seeing a better shooting Greg Graham. 

I think the nice thing is both guys have some physical ability, particularly length and decent quickness.  I do like Woody’s emphasis on those features.  You see it a lot with the guys he is recruiting.  

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1 hour ago, Hoosier4Life53 said:

Wow, Iowa by 26 over MSU. We may have hope for next year even if TJD and Trace move on. The Hawkeyes lost 2 NBA players in Garza and Wieskamp, and it looks like they might be better this year without them….you never know.

Good game for them but what do you guys think about villanova going down to conneticut tough loss they just couldn't pull away with it

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1 hour ago, Hoosier4Life53 said:

Wow, Iowa by 26 over MSU. We may have hope for next year even if TJD and Trace move on. The Hawkeyes lost 2 NBA players in Garza and Wieskamp, and it looks like they might be better this year without them….you never know.

On our returning roster, assuming that scenario, who are Keegan and Chris Murray and Jordan Bohannon?

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2 hours ago, Hoosier4Life53 said:

Wow, Iowa by 26 over MSU. We may have hope for next year even if TJD and Trace move on. The Hawkeyes lost 2 NBA players in Garza and Wieskamp, and it looks like they might be better this year without them….you never know.

They also lost CJ Fredrick, who transferred to Kentucky.

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7 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Going into this season nobody thought Murray was going to be this good

Maybe not this good, but he was Pre-season All B!G

2021-’22 Preseason All-Big Ten Team:

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39 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Maybe not this good, but he was Pre-season All B!G

2021-’22 Preseason All-Big Ten Team:

Yeah, but Curbelo's on there too, so what do they know... :D 

And no Johnny Davis...

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15 minutes ago, AxnJxn said:

Bohannon - Bates

Keegan - Race (if he returns)

Chris - Geronimo? Trey?

Lurker's premise was even if TJD and Race leave, there is the potential to do what IA did this year, so Race isn't an option. Bates needs to be a key player next year, but I'd be shocked if he shoots like Bohannon, who is the all-time career 3 point shooter in the B1G. Bates is currently below 29% from three and 38% from two. He did shoot 38% from 3 at IMG, so there's potential to improve.

Bohannon shot 42% from three as a freshman.

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8 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Lurker's premise was even if TJD and Race leave, there is the potential to do what IA did this year, so Race isn't an option.

Ah, I didn't go that far back, so apologies there. With that being said, I don't think we have someone that can turn into Keegan by next year if Race/TJD are gone. Agreed on Bates with respect to his outside shot, but I think he also is going to add the ability to drive and better defense than Bohannon. I'm basing this solely on TV observances, but he hit a nice runner in the lane against OSU, and he seems to be taking a bit of a leadership role in huddles and whatnot, too. 

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14 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Lurker's premise was even if TJD and Race leave, there is the potential to do what IA did this year, so Race isn't an option. Bates needs to be a key player next year, but I'd be shocked if he shoots like Bohannon, who is the all-time career 3 point shooter in the B1G. Bates is currently below 29% from three and 38% from two. He did shoot 38% from 3 at IMG, so there's potential to improve.

Bohannon shot 42% from three as a freshman.

But Bates could become a Murray/Davis type player….just saying it’s a possibility based on potential.

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Michigan St. per CBS:

 

Michigan State is now a dismal 1-5 in its past six games and trending in the wrong direction. The Spartans have gone from 17-4 overall and 8-2 in the Big Ten to 18-9 overall and 9-7 in the Big Ten in a span of 18 days. They've been replaced in Wednesday's updated CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings by the Iowa team that just beat them by 26 points while winning for the fifth time in six outings.

The problem for Michigan State now is that things aren't going to get any easier. Next up is a home game with Purdue. Then comes road games at Michigan and Ohio State, followed by the regular-season finale with Maryland. The Spartans should be underdogs in three of those four contests, according to KenPom.com, so finishing above .500 in the Big Ten is no longer a given. And if the Spartans don't turn things around fast, they could become a part of the bubble conversation for the second straight season.

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55 minutes ago, rico said:

Michigan St. per CBS:

 

Michigan State is now a dismal 1-5 in its past six games and trending in the wrong direction. The Spartans have gone from 17-4 overall and 8-2 in the Big Ten to 18-9 overall and 9-7 in the Big Ten in a span of 18 days. They've been replaced in Wednesday's updated CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings by the Iowa team that just beat them by 26 points while winning for the fifth time in six outings.

The problem for Michigan State now is that things aren't going to get any easier. Next up is a home game with Purdue. Then comes road games at Michigan and Ohio State, followed by the regular-season finale with Maryland. The Spartans should be underdogs in three of those four contests, according to KenPom.com, so finishing above .500 in the Big Ten is no longer a given. And if the Spartans don't turn things around fast, they could become a part of the bubble conversation for the second straight season.

The only thing that's sadder is...

We're the "1" in that 1-5...

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47 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Matt Painter really makes it hard to hate him...

 

You're not wrong. There was a post on the Reddit college basketball board of him answering why he doesn't play zone, and he gave a really detailed, insightful answer.

Also, it helps when you've had 17 years to build your culture and figure out what players to target on a regular basis to maximize your system, but Woody needs to do it in two years or else.

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