Seeking6 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 I'm not a cancel guy so I don't want Howard losing his job. Suspend him or whatever but don't want career ending for that. I will say this though. Woodson has been criticized by some of our opposing teams fanbases for not shaking hands after game? Maybe wise for all teams to just say good game and move along? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Just now, Stlboiler23 said: I agree with you 100% about Wisconsin having punks like Davison and if it was a case where Diabate threw a punch at Davison, it’d be bad but I could understand it cuz they’re kids. Coaches can’t be throwing punches regardless of what happens. I agree he can’t throw a punch. I can’t be more clear about that. You also don’t piss someone off then grab them as they try to walk away. That causes physical altercations. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Just now, KoB2011 said: I haven’t excused it. I’m just also able to realize when you don’t escalate a situation then grab the person you just pissed off. i didn't see it. Did Gard grab him in an agressive manner? If so, he is just as responsible as the punches thrown. The instigator usually gets away with it in real time but not when film reviewed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I haven’t excused it. I’m just also able to realize when you don’t escalate a situation then grab the person you just pissed off. Howard is an adult leading young man. He needs to have a cooler head than what he does. Because of his anger his players followed his lead and started throwing punches, they will be suspended because of his anger. Edited February 20, 2022 by Hoosier51 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: In a vacuum, sure. But Wisconsin does cheap shit to get under your skin all the time, then Gard put his hands on Howard for expressing that Gard leads a cheap program. Gard and Wisconsin escalated the situation. Yeah they do. Like Davidson pretending to fight through a screen and elbowing Dickerson below the waist earlier in that game. They are ridiculous with their cheap shots 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 minute ago, IowaHoosierFan said: i didn't see it. Did Gard grab him in an agressive manner? If so, he is just as responsible as the punches thrown. The instigator usually gets away with it in real time but not when film reviewed Yes he did. Howard was walking by him and he very clearly grabbed him and forced him to stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Hoosier51 said: Howard is an adult leading young man. He needs to have a cooler head that what he does. Because of his anger his players followed his lead and started throwing punches, they will be suspended because of his anger. Haven’t disagreed with that once. The argument here is one side recognizing Wisconsin as an instigator while still calling Michigan guilty in addition to Wisconsin, and then you guys arguing with me saying Wisconsin is innocent. It’s laughable and I’m sure I could find a week old game thread where you guys didn’t feel this way about the choir boys of Madison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Just now, KoB2011 said: Yes he did. Howard was walking by him and he very clearly grabbed him and forced him to stop. Then he is as reposible as the punch thrown. Both should be suspended the remainder of the season and fined heavily. But this would be their 1 get out of losing your job free card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Woodson has been criticized by some of our opposing teams fanbases for not shaking hands after game? Maybe wise for all teams to just say good game and move along? If always thought the handshake line was kind of stupid. 👍 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Would you have put your hands on Howard though when he was clearly pissed? Did he put his hands on him in a threatening manner. You are a D1 coach and you can't handle that without wanting to fight. That speaks volumes to character 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 minute ago, IowaHoosierFan said: Then he is as reposible as the punch thrown. Both should be suspended the remainder of the season and fined heavily. But this would be their 1 get out of losing your job free card I agree that should happen but I’ve never seen Wisconsin do anything other than play the victim card. I expect no different here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) Edited February 20, 2022 by Stlboiler23 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Just got home. Anything interesting happen in the Big ten today? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Billingsley99 said: Did he put his hands on him in a threatening manner. You are a D1 coach and you can't handle that without wanting to fight. That speaks volumes to character While true, there is something to be said for knowing someone is pissed and then grabbing them aggressively and expecting them to be calm and cool headed. Should he have been slapped, no, but he should have just let the man walk by and not grabbed him. No person has the right to invade someone else's space just because they believe they need something from them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hoosier51 said: If always thought the handshake line was kind of stupid. 👍 I agree. This was wayyyy more interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Just now, Billingsley99 said: Did he put his hands on him in a threatening manner. You are a D1 coach and you can't handle that without wanting to fight. That speaks volumes to character Howard said he was threatened. The video shows him trying to leave the situation and Gard not allowing him too. I haven’t a single time said Howard was innocent. I just don’t understand you guys defending putting your hands on someone who is trying to leave a situation. If Gard doesn’t do that it never happens. So yeah, I personally say both are not okay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 The fact that Gard thinks he can provoke someone without incident explains why his players do what they do. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Just now, KoB2011 said: Haven’t disagreed with that once. The argument here is one side recognizing Wisconsin as an instigator while still calling Michigan guilty in addition to Wisconsin, and then you guys arguing with me saying Wisconsin is innocent. It’s laughable and I’m sure I could find a week old game thread where you guys didn’t feel this way about the choir boys of Madison. I don't see anyone on here saying Wisconsin are choir boys, everyone on here knows what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Howard said he was threatened. The video shows him trying to leave the situation and Gard not allowing him too. I haven’t a single time said Howard was innocent. I just don’t understand you guys defending putting your hands on someone who is trying to leave a situation. If Gard doesn’t do that it never happens. So yeah, I personally say both are not okay. Howard threatened by Gard? Really? I’m sure if he really wanted to leave the situation he could’ve. What does he have, 10 inches and probably 60 pounds on him? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Hoosier51 said: I don't see anyone on here saying Wisconsin are choir boys, everyone on here knows what they are. And yet a large number of you are arguing that I’m calling them guilty in addition to Michigan…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Just now, Stlboiler23 said: Howard threatened by Gard? Really? I’m sure if he really wanted to leave the situation he could’ve. What does he have, 10 inches and probably 60 pounds on him? Where was he going to go to leave without it getting physical once Gard put his hands on him and got on his way? I don’t really see another way considering the scorers table was on the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted February 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Just got home. Anything interesting happen in the Big ten today? Michigan’s season is hanging on a thread after that altercation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: And yet a large number of you are arguing that I’m calling them guilty in addition to Michigan…. Is that any different then you accusing people on here of thinking the Badgers are choir boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Howard threatened by Gard? Really? I’m sure if he really wanted to leave the situation he could’ve. What does he have, 10 inches and probably 60 pounds on him? The fact that he said he was threatened is laughable. Was he threatened when he went after the Maryland bench last season. The man has an anger issue that he needs to get under control. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Hoosier51 said: Is that any different then you accusing people on here of thinking the Badgers are choir boys. No, that’s exactly my point. I’m saying Wisconsin is guilty too and you guys are arguing with me and saying only Howard is in the wrong. Wisconsin ain’t innocent here at all is the only point I’m trying to make. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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