thirdgenhoosier Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 So there is a fight on the court. Cooler heads are trying to get everyone to just go to their locker room. Yet obviously things are still tense. And Davison wants to go to the end of the court where Michigan is exiting to sing some school song. To me he is just intentionally rubbing salt in the wound. Did anyone else notice that? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDB Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Will look good in a Pacer uniform next year. Could be. Don’t follow the nba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Joe_Hoopsier said: I think you are trying to play the Holy moral high ground, I get it and that is probably the right way to think about things like this. BUT, this is a message board, on an IU site, We ALL hate Wisky and most hate Meatchicken. I don't think any of us are looking for a father figure to teach us morals. We just really want to hate Wisky! Brad Davison is a dirty SOB! Just expressing an opinion, brother, like everyone else on here... I would have hated to seen anyone on either side get seriously hurt over something as trivial as a timeout... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Just expressing an opinion, brother, like everyone else on here... I would have hated to seen anyone on either side get seriously hurt over something as trivial as a timeout... Oh I know you are, I just hope you equally understand, the fandom REALLY wants to hate on; Davison is a dirty SOB. There are no "right side" of this, only lesser sides of wrong. Davison is a dirty SOB ! .... who was educated to be that way by his coach! Just like he was coached to shoot free throws. Being a dirty SOB is part of their game plan. Frankly, I would do the exact same thing because I am short, fat and can't jump. But I'll slit your through for a win. That is probably what made Davison's play so easy for me to spot. He's my kinda dirty, and I hate that.. Kinda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, thirdgenhoosier said: So there is a fight on the court. Cooler heads are trying to get everyone to just go to their locker room. Yet obviously things are still tense. And Davison wants to go to the end of the court where Michigan is exiting to sing some school song. To me he is just intentionally rubbing salt in the wound. Did anyone else notice that? Didn’t see this. Have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Inequality said: Didn’t see this. Have a link? Go to the previous page. There is a video that was posted. The video is not the TV copy. It was shot on the floor and gives a little different perspective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: The coach can’t throw a punch dude. It’s one thing if a player does it but a coach? Howard was an idiot for doing that. First rule of Coach Club…no fighting? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 We're singing varsity. Come on, we are singing varsity. What a boob. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1. Coach your team…don’t worry about timeouts. It’s D1 basketball…no crying allowed 2. Gard should let Howard blow through the line. They can talk later if he really feels the need to 3. Howard is the leader of his team and represents a Big Ten university…act like it ! 4. Davison elbow is premeditated. He drills him with the pointy tip in the ribs I will never give Draymond, Grayson, CP3 or Davison the benefit of the doubt….multiple offenders! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 41 minutes ago, Inequality said: Oh I agree. Professionalism should always prevail. Since it didn’t today we get to toss it around a bit. The video is the only thing I have to go on as I wasn’t there. I hear the commentary of Howard appears to be avoiding the handshake line. Then you see Howard while looking straight forward make an attempt to breeze though the line without incident. Only, he was stopped by Gard. Gard, who judging by the bobbling of his head, wasn’t singing the Michigan fight song. Call it what you will. I see Howard make a mistake but a mistake that could have been avoided had Gard not made it a point to not let him walk on by. Which, in this particular case and in my opinion, makes both parties at fault. Just because Howard did the biting, doesn’t mean the taunting gets overlooked. It was more than just taunting though, Gard physically grabbed Howard and tried to stop him from walking past. Also, not sure what the OSU assistant that actually got hit was up to, but he clearly had his hands on a Michigan player right before Howard swung. If I was in charge of the world, Gard would be out 2-5 games; the OSU assistant would be the same with potential for more after I heard more audio; and Howard would be out the year, but I probably wouldn't fire him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: Ok, would the players have started fighting based on what Gard did? I didn't see Krabbenhoft do anything, but whatever you're accusing him of, would that have spurred the players to throw punches? We both know the answer, but somehow you seem bent on trying to lessen Howard's guilt by pointing the finger at Gard and Krabbenhoft... And we haven't even gotten into Howard's responsibilities as a leader... Krabbenhoft made contact with two Michigan players before Howard swiped at him… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) Hopefully this causes the league to clean up the Wisconsin team and start calling all the dirty stuff they do. I am not justifying Michigan's post game response, but the stuff that Wisconsin gets away with every game is going result in some dissatisfied people. Even Gard's post-game where he was going to "splain" the rules to Coach Howard explains why I hate Wisconsin. Edited February 21, 2022 by GaloisGroupe 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: First rule of Coach Club…no fighting? Does this meant that Coach Howard and Coach Gard are the same person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler Sam Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 5 hours ago, DC2345 said: Yeah they do. Like Davidson pretending to fight through a screen and elbowing Dickerson below the waist earlier in that game. They are ridiculous with their cheap shots Ironically, the guy who got slapped is one of the all time Badger cheap shot artists. Had it coming in my book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 hours ago, KoB2011 said: I don’t know how to be more clear that Howard was in the wrong. Could you clarify what you mean. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 7 hours ago, kyhoosier29 said: He should be fired in my opinion. As much as I hate Wiscy, Gard was simply trying to explain / smooth the friction. A head coach swinging as somebody is ridiculous. Great example for your kids buddy. I agree he should be fired, just like when Woody Hayes hit the Clemson player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I agree he should be fired, just like when Woody Hayes hit the Clemson player. Huge difference in punching a player and slapping the head of an assistant coach. Huge difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I agree he should be fired, just like when Woody Hayes hit the Clemson player. I believe only one coach put hands on a player in that scrum and it wasn’t Howard. Am I wrong that it was more than one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Diabate seems to have the same anger issues his coach has. This was last month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 57 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: It was more than just taunting though, Gard physically grabbed Howard and tried to stop him from walking past. Also, not sure what the OSU assistant that actually got hit was up to, but he clearly had his hands on a Michigan player right before Howard swung. If I was in charge of the world, Gard would be out 2-5 games; the OSU assistant would be the same with potential for more after I heard more audio; and Howard would be out the year, but I probably wouldn't fire him. What about the Wisconsin assistant that did the 'Triple H suck it'? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hoosier51 said: Diabate seems to have the same anger issues his coach has. This was last month. Yeah, he's ready for the NBA...😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 I had to work so I was listening to the game but didn't UM foul with like 4 seconds to go. Also just get rid the handshake line and remember a time in college that they didn't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 I wish I saw the scrum live. So I missed the context from the game. But looking at the clips: 1. I’ve said this before but the handshake line has run its course. Let’s stop pretending this is biddy ball or little league. 2. Juwan deserves a suspension. No, he shouldn’t lose his job. That’s soft. Sadly, Bob Knights chair throw will be more remembered than this. 3. Gard instigated it and his post game explanation was disingenuous at best. There’s no other word for it than he was a bitch. That’s the perfect word for his actions today. 4. Krabbenoff should also be suspended. Instead of coming in to break things up, like a normal adult would do, he escalated it. 5. I’d probably suspend Howard and Diabate 3 games, Krabbenoff 2 games and Gard one game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Do we have any members that work in the Big Ten office? Curious as to what is being discussed in there right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I had to work so I was listening to the game but didn't UM foul with like 4 seconds to go. Also just get rid the handshake line and remember a time in college that they didn't do it. Yeah they fouled on the inbound play and then after the FTs scored and set up their press with a little over one second left, all with their starters while the Bagers had backups in. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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