cthomas Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said: Sophomore Eric Hunter was very solid. Idk if I’ve ever seen a player with as steep a drop-off as I’ve seen with him. As much as I hate to admit it, and I really hate to admit it, Purdue still looks like the class of the conference from a talent standpoint. Painter is too good of a coach to not figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, cthomas said: As much as I hate to admit it, and I really hate to admit it, Purdue still looks like the class of the conference from a talent standpoint. Painter is too good of a coach to not figure it out. I don't think they are, other then Ivey their guard play is pretty lackluster and even he has been inconsistent at times. I think they are probably around 5th or 6th best team in the league right now. Edited January 4, 2022 by Hoosier51 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) Couple of more interesting Big 10 games tonight, both at 7 PM EST... Michigan (7-5 1-1 in Big Ten) Rutgers (7-5 1-1 in Big 10) on BTN...Michigan is 1-2 on the road, and Rutgers is 7-1 at home...Just ask Purdue Illinois (9-3 2-0 in Big 10) at Minnesota (10-1 1-1 in Big 10) on FS1...The Barn is one of the hardest venues for a road team to steal one, especially teams that rely on shooters...And what's the Illini's answer to Jamison Battle? Edited January 4, 2022 by IUFLA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Hoosier51 said: I don't think they are, other then Ivey their guard play is pretty lackluster and even he has been inconsistent at times. I think they are probably around 5th or 6th best team in the league right now. I would have killed for lackluster last night 😳🪠🚽 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostin76 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 Really sad that HTD wasn’t around to post last night, but happy to see that others took care of it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 10 hours ago, Hoosier51 said: Everybody talks about how good Ivey is but in my opinion watching them all play this year Davis and Murray are better. I agree with that. Ivey is a pretty good player and has a lot more talent around him...I've seen him take over games, but normally he doesn't need to carry near the burden Murray and Davis have to... Davison hit a couple of daggers last night, but without Davis Wisconsin isn't in that game at all... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 Any team that (up until last couple weeks) had people on here talking about Final 4's and Big 10 championships can't lose that one at home...and that was with Wiscy going 6-24 from 3. Tough one for sure and weird start to conference reset for many. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Any team that (up until last couple weeks) had people on here talking about Final 4's and Big 10 championships can't lose that one at home...and that was with Wiscy going 6-24 from 3. Tough one for sure and weird start to conference reset for many. Johnny Davis going for 37 hurt. That’s been a problem for Purdue this year. In year’s past, they’ve done a good job in limiting the opposing team’s beat player but this year, they haven’t been able to do that against guys like Davis and Harper Jr. Don’t have that defensive stopper this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Hoosier51 said: I don't think they are, other then Ivey their guard play is pretty lackluster and even he has been inconsistent at times. I think they are probably around 5th or 6th best team in the league right now. I think 5th or 6th is a reach. They’ve had some lackluster games but I still think they’re a top 3 team in the league right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 9 hours ago, cthomas said: As much as I hate to admit it, and I really hate to admit it, Purdue still looks like the class of the conference from a talent standpoint. Painter is too good of a coach to not figure it out. 70th ranked defense is not going to cut it. And Painter is a good coach, but he's not thaaaat good. And he's definitely never been in this position before, where PU is the hunted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Johnny Davis going for 37 hurt. That’s been a problem for Purdue this year. In year’s past, they’ve done a good job in limiting the opposing team’s beat player but this year, they haven’t been able to do that against guys like Davis and Harper Jr. Don’t have that defensive stopper this year. I think the only guy that can stop Johnny Davis is...Johnny Davis. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW75 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I think 5th or 6th is a reach. They’ve had some lackluster games but I still think they’re a top 3 team in the league right now. Add Murray to the Iowa game, do they win that one? Easily could be 0-3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I think 5th or 6th is a reach. They’ve had some lackluster games but I still think they’re a top 3 team in the league right now. No i will stick with 5th or 6th, especially if they don't improve their defense and get more consistent guard play. MSU, OSU and Wisconsin are all clearly better right now. Illini and maybe even Minnesota are just as good and maybe even better then Purdue. Edited January 4, 2022 by Hoosier51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, JW75 said: Add Murray to the Iowa game, do they win that one? Easily could be 0-3. I forgot about that, i will definitely stick with around 5th. They let Iowa back into that game and were outplayed in the second half even without Murray. Edited January 4, 2022 by Hoosier51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Any team that (up until last couple weeks) had people on here talking about Final 4's and Big 10 championships can't lose that one at home...and that was with Wiscy going 6-24 from 3. Tough one for sure and weird start to conference reset for many. Not to mention Wisconsin was practically down to walk ons for front line help at the end due to the officiating... If Big 10 officials are going to allow Cockburn, Edey, and to a lesser extent Dickinson camp in the lane and use their shoulders and forearms to create space, Illinois, Purdue, and Michigan will profit... And as much as I absolutely hate saying this, I do think Purdue is top 4 in the Big 10...although at this stage I think both OSU and MSU are clearly better... Edited January 4, 2022 by IUFLA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 27 minutes ago, rico said: I think the only guy that can stop Johnny Davis is...Johnny Davis. Single point of failure is never good in anything, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: Not to mention Wisconsin was practically down to walk ons for front line help at the end due to the officiating... If Big 10 officials are going to allow Cockburn, Edey, and to a lesser extent Dickinson camp in.tje lane and use their shoulders and forearms to create space, Illinois, Purdue, and Michigan will profit... And as much as I absolutely hate saying this, I do think Purdue is top 4 in the Big 10...although at this stage I think both OSU and MSU are clearly better... No doubt Purdue is up there and I'm with you on Ohio St/Sparty...I'm just trying to figure out maybe the macro view of college hoops. Is it just the Big 10 or is it nationally that teams that are really, really good have multiple games in a season where you go what was that? Even Sparty should have lost at Northwestern...Ohio St too at Nebraska. Guess I need a few weeks to see how things shake out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Seeking6 said: No doubt Purdue is up there and I'm with you on Ohio St/Sparty...I'm just trying to figure out maybe the macro view of college hoops. Is it just the Big 10 or is it nationally that teams that are really, really good have multiple games in a season where you go what was that? Even Sparty should have lost at Northwestern...Ohio St too at Nebraska. Guess I need a few weeks to see how things shake out. I think the only blowouts we're going to see in the Big 10 this year are when some of the weaker teams play on the road...when they're at home, it's anybody's ballgame... That Nebraska game at Lincoln we have coming up in a couple weeks has me concerned... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: No doubt Purdue is up there and I'm with you on Ohio St/Sparty...I'm just trying to figure out maybe the macro view of college hoops. Is it just the Big 10 or is it nationally that teams that are really, really good have multiple games in a season where you go what was that? Even Sparty should have lost at Northwestern...Ohio St too at Nebraska. Guess I need a few weeks to see how things shake out. There are no great teams and everyone has flaws so you will see bad games from everyone. Also I will put this here, for the 3rd time I have tested positive for Covid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: There are no great teams and everyone has flaws so you will see bad games from everyone. Also I will put this here, for the 3rd time I have tested positive for Covid. Damn dude. 3x?? Do you have to get tested for work? Hopefully things turnout ok for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: There are no great teams and everyone has flaws so you will see bad games from everyone. Life on the road is going to be tough in the B1G, and really it's going to be tough at home for teams also. Like you said there are no great teams just a bunch of good ones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, OGIUAndy said: 70th ranked defense is not going to cut it. And Painter is a good coach, but he's not thaaaat good. And he's definitely never been in this position before, where PU is the hunted. Defense certainly has to improve no doubt. How good is “good but not thaaaat good” haha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 43 minutes ago, Hoosier51 said: No i will stick with 5th or 6th, especially if they don't improve their defense and get more consistent guard play. MSU, OSU and Wisconsin are all clearly better right now. Illini and maybe even Minnesota are just as good and maybe even better then Purdue. Agree to disagree. I think Purdue is still a better team than Wisconsin even with the loss last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 58 minutes ago, JW75 said: Add Murray to the Iowa game, do they win that one? Easily could be 0-3. Very true. I feel like Purdue has maybe been guilty of reading the press clippings and thinking they can just show up to some of these games and win. Haven’t had that typical Purdue mentality for awhile now which sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Damn dude. 3x?? Do you have to get tested for work? Hopefully things turnout ok for you. I have had some symptoms and working in health care I took the test. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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