IUJoe Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 11/22/2021 at 7:37 PM, HoosierFaithful said: Wow, the mood here turned quickly. Some folks are mighty reactionary. Tom Allen has built up a LOOOOOOT of goodwill with this particular fan, and I imagine with the IU powers that be as well. We live in a world where every time there’s a little bump in the road, folks are looking for someone to blame and someone to fire. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Brad Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 When Wilson was let go, and when Glass still ran the show, I mailed assistant Dolson suggesting they go after Fickel. Oh well. Too late. I'm afraid the Crean/Allen comparisons might be more accurate than we would like. Those criticizing Dolson apparently have forgotten he pulled the plug on Miller,..got Woodson and even managed to get the General back inside Assembly Hall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Brad Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 11/20/2021 at 8:17 AM, 5fouls said: I saw somewhere that IU was 'a program on the upswing'. I think that was Sports Illustrated on Phil Dickens in the 50's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Bad Brad said: When Wilson was let go, and when Glass still ran the show, I mailed assistant Dolson suggesting they go after Fickel. Oh well. Too late. I'm afraid the Crean/Allen comparisons might be more accurate than we would like. Those criticizing Dolson apparently have forgotten he pulled the plug on Miller,..got Woodson and even managed to get the General back inside Assembly Hall. Wait lol.. If Allen wins two conference championships in 4 years... you won't be happy with that? What honestly is that comment? Crean/Allen comparisons... who has EVER compared those two? If your answer is Peegs or some ridiculous forum like that just save it. Tom Crean is a darn good basketball coach btw. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 11/24/2021 at 10:23 AM, IUJoe said: We live in a world where every time there’s a little bump in the road, folks are looking for someone to blame and someone to fire. Yep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Brad Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 hours ago, btownqb said: Wait lol.. If Allen wins two conference championships in 4 years... you won't be happy with that? What honestly is that comment? Crean/Allen comparisons... who has EVER compared those two? If your answer is Peegs or some ridiculous forum like that just save it. Tom Crean is a darn good basketball coach btw. 'Hoosier Exotics'. As for Crean, he's 43 and 52 at Georgia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 59 minutes ago, Bad Brad said: 'Hoosier Exotics'. As for Crean, he's 43 and 52 at Georgia. And wont make it past this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 9:01 PM, Bad Brad said: 'Hoosier Exotics'. As for Crean, he's 43 and 52 at Georgia. You're absolutely lost lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier_exotics Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Crean is about to get fired from a SEC football school... Allen is lucky to be at IU. If he were at even a mediocre football school, he would be out. Both are good talkers who rely on gimmicks, and love to clap like seals at a show. There are very few elite level football coaches. There are some good to very good coaches... Allen is about a light year away from good. He will need to make the perfect hires this off-season or he will be out by the end of next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier_exotics Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Wofford is a 1.5 pt favorite over Georgia today, at Georgia... enough said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, hoosier_exotics said: Crean is about to get fired from a SEC football school... Allen is lucky to be at IU. If he were at even a mediocre football school, he would be out. Both are good talkers who rely on gimmicks, and love to clap like seals at a show. There are very few elite level football coaches. There are some good to very good coaches... Allen is about a light year away from good. He will need to make the perfect hires this off-season or he will be out by the end of next year. Basically all of this is false, but do you feel better? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, hoosier_exotics said: Wofford is a 1.5 pt favorite over Georgia today, at Georgia... enough said He also won 2 conference championships in 4 years. How in the world are you still talking crap about him? Grow up He's an excellent coach..didn't work here. Everyone else has moved on? Do you have OCD about this issue? Edited November 28, 2021 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Love a couple of keyboard warriors coming to a forum to trash coaches.. 🤣🤣🤣 You aren't unique. You are annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier_exotics Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, btownqb said: He also won 2 conference championships in 4 years. How in the world are you still talking crap about him? Grow up He's an excellent coach..didn't work here. Everyone else has moved on? Do you have OCD about this issue? Woof I could care less about Tom Crean... just pointing out some similarities between the two. Crean is far far far away from excellent at anything other than finding a diamond in the rough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, hoosier_exotics said: I could care less about Tom Crean... just pointing out some similarities between the two. Crean is far far far away from excellent at anything other than finding a diamond in the rough False By a lot. The similarities that those two hold is they're absolutely incredible dudes. Your ridiculous posts don't change that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier_exotics Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: False By a lot. The similarities that those two hold is they're absolutely incredible dudes. Your ridiculous posts don't change that. I will give you that. Both seem like good dudes, but I'm talking about coaching. If Dolson is serious about the foorball program, he will be forced to make a change in a year or two. Crean was not far from the door when he ran here from Marquette. Didnt work here, not going to work in Georgia... thats the truth. Thankful we have Woodson. Hopefully Allen cleans house and surrounds himself with great coaches, because he needs it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireBump Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 hours ago, hoosier_exotics said: Crean is about to get fired from a SEC football school... Allen is lucky to be at IU. If he were at even a mediocre football school, he would be out. Both are good talkers who rely on gimmicks, and love to clap like seals at a show. There are very few elite level football coaches. There are some good to very good coaches... Allen is about a light year away from good. He will need to make the perfect hires this off-season or he will be out by the end of next year. Did you expect to make the playoffs this year? The guy came in as a defensive coordinator and turned the defense around, then made back to back bowl seasons in his 3rd and 4th year. He has met or even exceeded Indiana Football expectations. Plus, after he went 8-5 & 6-2 he didnt jump ship for a better job, which is what normally happens with our coaches... see Deboer, Wommack, Hart, etc... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier_exotics Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, DireBump said: Did you expect to make the playoffs this year? The guy came in as a defensive coordinator and turned the defense around, then made back to back bowl seasons in his 3rd and 4th year. He has met or even exceeded Indiana Football expectations. Plus, after he went 8-5 & 6-2 he didnt jump ship for a better job, which is what normally happens with our coaches... see Deboer, Wommack, Hart, etc... Uh no... I wouldn't expect IU to ever make the playoffs. Especially with the current 4 team structure. But completely rolling over and dying wasn't on most people's minds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo123 Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 no matter who the coach is or what school they are at. If you don't have the Jimmys and Joes will not win a championship. Crean had some studs and won a couple conference titles with them. What that says is with the right players anything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 hours ago, jojo123 said: no matter who the coach is or what school they are at. If you don't have the Jimmys and Joes will not win a championship. Crean had some studs and won a couple conference titles with them. What that says is with the right players anything is possible. Correct. Always has been and will forever stand the test of time. Getting and developing those players is underrated though. Very underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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