IU Scott Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, NotIThatLives said: Anyone else notice our guys getting into the corners more? Seems some of that NBA spread is being sprinkled in. Helps when we can hit open 3s. Romeo always stood in the corner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said: Haha obviously joking. Wish there was a sarcasm font. Use the cup of coffee emoji. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, IU Scott said: Romeo always stood in the corner There was one play in the last few minutes that Bates drove hard right and knew that he had an open guy opposite corner that he hit, then the defense was left scrambling, think it wound up drawing a foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinithreeMagic Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Defense jumped from 23 to 11 on KenPom after that performance. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officer Obie Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Don't like the turnovers and the offensive rebounds but very happy with how they played tonight. I thought this was going to be a lot tougher game than it was. Louisiana was supposed to be pretty good and is a big physical team. I think a lot of the sloppy play especially the last ten minutes is just human nature. I think it is lime when you have been playing pickup ball for a couple of hours. That last game you are tired and just stop playing and you have a lot of snow birding. I just think when it comes that easy and the game is out of hand you just lose the intensity. Coach Woodson in the post game comments sounded like he was unhappy with the turnovers. The turnovers were worrisome, but I imagine they will be dealt with. I hope so anyway. Edited November 22, 2021 by Officer Obie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Duncomb screwed up a chance to get some decent minutes. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinithreeMagic Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: Duncomb screwed up a chance to get some decent minutes. He needs a redshirt anyway. He's never going to leave early so getting another 4 years would be great for the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Duncomb screwed up a chance to get some decent minutes. What happened? Something about getting suspended? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 25 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Also, Nathan Childriss leads the nation in 3 point percentage per 40... Bet the Illini are gnashing their teeth over not getting some of that! When he first checked in Fischer said if he shoots it, he'll make it. Shortly after that he nailed the 3. Something about Nostradamus lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, PhinithreeMagic said: Defense jumped from 23 to 11 on KenPom after that performance. Whats the formula for contender? Top 25 in both? I think there has been one outlier once in 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Zuckerkorn said: What happened? Something about getting suspended? 3 game suspension. I leave it up to everyone else to identify a reason for that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Hoosier Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Lander definitely impressed me tonight. I was skeptical about him but he seems to have made some improvement since last year. I do think he needs to tighten up his handle and make smarter decisions but other than that I thought he did really well tonight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinithreeMagic Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Whats the formula for contender? Top 25 in both? I think there has been one outlier once in 20 years. Not sure of the answer but the offense needs to be better. Offense still ranked 64th. Turnovers play a role but the tempo has still been very slow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 If you check Kenpom stats for eventual champs prior to the touneys starting there are quite a few who have one or more stats out of the top 25. Winning 6 straight games against tourney teams has the effect of raising those values Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 45 minutes ago, PhinithreeMagic said: It's really small but Bates' ability to create space from his man before he even puts the ball on the floor is incredible. He is a game changer on the offensive end for a team that has lacked any kind of individual creativity for 5 years now. I also love how he’s the first person on the bench to stand up and cheer on the team giving them high fives helping them up. He is going to go down as one of my all time favorite Hoosier players even if he’s only here 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 I love how X wasn’t playing good then lander came in and played well so CMW left him in and didn’t go back to Johnson until the second half. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) The shooting has definitely improved, Woodys defensive sceme is smothering. With players out and foul trouble the bench produced. Parker Stewart is a great addition. I like the balanced scoring. Takes some stress off TJD. PS. Pack line defense was obviously a gimmick. I see some RMK in this teams play. Edited November 22, 2021 by mrflynn03 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, IUfaninIllinois said: I love how X wasn’t playing good then lander came in and played well so CMW left him in and didn’t go back to Johnson until the second half. Probably because he had two fouls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Still waiting til further in the season, but the discussion on depth. I think we have it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: The shooting has definitely improved, Woodys defensive sceme is smothering. With players out and foul trouble the bench produced. Parker Stewart is a great addition. I like the balanced scored. Takes some stress off TJD. PS. Pack line defense was obviously a gimmick. I see some RMK in this teams play. It’s amazing how an NBA defensive scheme is superior to a college scheme, isn’t? The reality is we have better schemes on both sides of the ball than most of the country, just by virtue of having an NBA head coach. As Woodson continues to bring in guys who fit more of what he wants to do, we are going to see some really special basketball. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Need to value the ball more to prevent turnovers. Butt 22 assists and 8 blocks, nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: If you check Kenpom stats for eventual champs prior to the touneys starting there are quite a few who have one or more stats out of the top 25. Winning 6 straight games against tourney teams has the effect of raising those values This article is 4 years old but has data on a long list of former champs. Kembas Uconn was the outlier. Everyone else had adj o and d inside top 19. https://www.vuhoops.com/villanova-basketball/2018/2/8/16986218/villanova-basketball-what-does-kenpom-tell-us-about-past-champions New article. https://vendettasportsmedia.com/using-kenpom-predict-2021-22-ncaa-basketball-champion/ Edited November 22, 2021 by NotIThatLives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiveoutofsix Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: Don't like the turnovers and the offensive rebounds but very happy with how they played tonight. I thought this was going to be a lot tougher game than it was. Louisiana was supposed to be pretty good and is a big physical team. I think a lot of the sloppy play especially the last ten minutes is just human nature. I think it is lime when you have been playing pickup ball for a couple of hours. That last game you are tired and just stop playing and you have a lot of snow birding. I just think when it comes that easy and the game is out of hand you just lose the intensity. Coach Woodson in the post game comments sounded like he was unhappy with the turnovers. Offensive rebounds are important; however you have to balance 5 crashing the boards and also getting back on transition defense. You can't always have both. Also, they are using the bump and jump technique which NBA and teams like MSU use. This will take some time to master. They wil improve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: It’s amazing how an NBA defensive scheme is superior to a college scheme, isn’t? The reality is we have better schemes on both sides of the ball than most of the country, just by virtue of having an NBA head coach. As Woodson continues to bring in guys who fit more of what he wants to do, we are going to see some really special basketball. I don't watch NBA anymore, used to follow the pacers, but if this is what it looks like, whew. I might start watching the pacers again. The first three games this year you could see some signs. But tonight was total dominance on both sides of the floor. If they continue to improve watch out. And this game we were missing 3 contributers and had foul trouble and the bench stepped up. Too early to tell but the cajuns are probably not too bad of a team. My excitement is bottled up but hopeful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 I feel like some guys are being told to shoot the ball. Seems like Race will be able to knock down 3's at times but, and as @IU Scott and I would like, seems to have developed a mid-range jump shot. Those 12-15 footers are money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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