Fiveoutofsix Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, dbmhoosier said: The ACC is used to the zone. Woody is not. He's been in the NBA for 40 years and while he's probably an excellent coach he surely believes you play everyone the same which is very naive. It was a very important learning experience for him and the team. At the Kohl Center likely will be as well. College basketball is vastly different than the NBA. It's why guys like Tyrone Lue and Quinn Snyder can be successful in the league but would be epic failures at the college level. Not sure about this. I didn't see Rayce and Trayce on the perimeter last night. Out of the last 70 some points Trayce has scored ...how many of them are from the wing position? They broke the zone, scored against it. There wasn't anything that didn't work. Silly turnovers from playing scared in 1st half. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiveoutofsix Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 Wow - no call for Nebraska at the rim to win the game. Wrist was slapped down. Thought it was fitting here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, OGIUAndy said: You know that’s the first real road game in 20 months? Yeah. We would be better off scheduling an early road game against somebody like Fort Wayne and get one under our belt before the ACC challenge. Edited December 2, 2021 by 5fouls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Yeah. We would be better off scheduling an early road game against somebody like Fort Wayne and get one under our belt before the ACC challenge. Hey! What do you have against Ft Wayne?😛😛😛🤣 The city 2 hours from Indy😛 Edited December 2, 2021 by Steubenhoosier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 2 hours ago, 5fouls said: Yeah. We would be better off scheduling an early road game against somebody like Fort Wayne and get one under our belt before the ACC challenge. Didn't go well the last time we played there 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSHoosier Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 17 hours ago, HoosierDPU95 said: They posted a stat at one point in the second half (I think) and it showed Cuse had 31 points off of turnovers compared to our 11. Syracuse didn't expose our defense, we did by not protecting the ball. I mean this as a serious question because I don't know. Does points off turnovers include every time they scored after getting a turnover? So, even if they get a strip under their own basket and walk it up and get into their offense and score, is it still considered points off a turnover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, MSHoosier said: I mean this as a serious question because I don't know. Does points off turnovers include every time they scored after getting a turnover? So, even if they get a strip under their own basket and walk it up and get into their offense and score, is it still considered points off a turnover? In a word, yes... "Points Off Turnovers When a team commits a turnover, the scoring crew records the turnover. On the following opponent possession, if the opponent scores, the scoring system credits that opponent with a point off a turnover. Points off turnovers might be a misleading statistic if you don’t account for the tempo. Turnovers per possessions would sure be a better metric if you want to quantify the cost of turnover." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) I really wanted CMW to get T'd up for getting in the ref's ass for how badly the game was being called. This isn't the NBA, you can't let the refs just get into and stay in the momentum of the environment. You need to occasionally get fired up and let them know you're not going to take it and they are wrong. There are good Technical fouls by a coach. Edited December 2, 2021 by IowaHoosierFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 2 hours ago, IowaHoosierFan said: I really wanted CMW to get T'd up for getting in the ref's ass for how badly the game was being called. This isn't the NBA, you can't let the refs just get into and stay in the momentum of the environment. You need to occasionally get fired up and let them know you're not going to take it and they are wrong. There are good Technical fouls by a coach. While I agree with the sentiment, I can't really think of a point in that game where it wouldn't have caused things to further unravel. I also don't think Woody is shy about telling the refs how he feels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, IowaHoosierFan said: I really wanted CMW to get T'd up for getting in the ref's ass for how badly the game was being called. This isn't the NBA, you can't let the refs just get into and stay in the momentum of the environment. You need to occasionally get fired up and let them know you're not going to take it and they are wrong. There are good Technical fouls by a coach. Oh, I'm sure it will eventually come to that point. In due time. He definitely gets into the faces of the players when he's not happy. I definitely enjoy watching that when the camera zooms in. 🧐 Edited December 2, 2021 by Artesian_86 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) On 12/1/2021 at 8:27 AM, Reacher said: Xavier did have 9 assists. Hey, @Reacher I did go back and look...7 of those were passes to open shooters who made jumpers (6 of those were 3 pointers by either Stewart or Kopp) and I know that's within the definition of an assist, so kudos to XJ for finding the open man... 2 were for TJD dunks... Edited December 2, 2021 by IUFLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 4 hours ago, KoB2011 said: While I agree with the sentiment, I can't really think of a point in that game where it wouldn't have caused things to further unravel. I also don't think Woody is shy about telling the refs how he feels. When Rob got tackled at mid court and no foul was called. That was when he should have lost his shit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 3 hours ago, IowaHoosierFan said: When Rob got tackled at mid court and no foul was called. That was when he should have lost his shit I think that was XJ, but regardless I think I said exactly what you said during the game thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 7 hours ago, IowaHoosierFan said: When Rob got tackled at mid court and no foul was called. That was when he should have lost his shit You know.... I can't really disagree with you there. It was X, but yeah, that was during a string of calls that killed our momentum, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 I went back and watched the game again...My version of "Big 10 Basketball in 60" (which actually takes about 40)... The very first foul on TJD was bogus...He caught it in the right corner, turned to his right, his shoulder knocking his defender back just a bit...Foul... Later in the game, down the stretch when Syracuse was isolating Buddy B every play, he did the exact same thing and it was never called... If the Big 10 calls bumping people off with your shoulder a foul a lot this year, Kofi Cockburn won't last 2 minutes in a game... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 57 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I went back and watched the game again...My version of "Big 10 Basketball in 60" (which actually takes about 40)... The very first foul on TJD was bogus...He caught it in the right corner, turned to his right, his shoulder knocking his defender back just a bit...Foul... Later in the game, down the stretch when Syracuse was isolating Buddy B every play, he did the exact same thing and it was never called... If the Big 10 calls bumping people off with your shoulder a foul a lot this year, Kofi Cockburn won't last 2 minutes in a game... The last 5 years or so they stopped calling the guard with the ball pushing off with their forearm to gain space and it pisses me off every time i see it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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