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5 minutes ago, jv1972iu said:

Ohio governor just announced mandatory closure of all bars and restaurants for an indefinite period of time.  Restaurants with carry out, delivery, or drive through may be open for that...just no regular sit down.

Oh crap, hope this doesn't happen in Georgia,  then I'll have to find some alternate plans to get away from the idiots that have NO RESPECT for personal time at lunch trying to get away from them!!!!

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14 minutes ago, Drroogh said:

Oh crap, hope this doesn't happen in Georgia,  then I'll have to find some alternate plans to get away from the idiots that have NO RESPECT for personal time at lunch trying to get away from them!!!!

It will happen in GA

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17 minutes ago, rico said:

It will happen in GA

We have staggered shifts, some start at 5, some at 6, myself at 7, and the office people that pretty much bring nothing to the table except demands start at 8 AM! The 8ers could care less about YOUR destress time at lunch! Can't tell you how many times just last week, they tried to bring me their problems to me after 11!! Their lunch starts at 12!

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Per IU:

In light of the World Health Organization’s declaration of COVID-19 as a global pandemic, IU has released the following immediate and necessary updates:

IU is suspending face-to-face classes and transitioning to virtual learning for the remainder of the spring semester.

Spring Break will extend one additional week, now from March 14 to 29 in order to accommodate faculty transition to online instruction and to provide travel flexibility for all students. Virtual classes will begin on March 30.

Students in courses with clinical experiences or field work will receive further instruction from the academic leaders in their programs

IU will close most of its on-campus housing on March 20. Procedures for move-out and transition policies, including retrieving essential items, will be provided to housing residents by Tuesday.

All IU-affiliated events and gatherings should be postponed, canceled, or conducted virtually for the rest of the academic semester. IU will assess in the coming weeks the future of its Commencement Ceremony that is scheduled in May.

Men’s and Women’s Little 500 bike races are canceled for this academic semester. They will be reassessed for future dates beyond this semester if that becomes possible.

IU campuses remain open with limited operations. Staff and faculty who are able to meet their work obligations from home by telecommuting and are in a position to do so should continue.

At this time, we continue to have no confirmed cases at IU, but with the anticipated greater availability of test kits, this could change very quickly.

We understand how very difficult and deeply disappointing these steps will be for many students, staff and faculty. Thank you for your understanding and willingness to navigate the disruption caused by this virus.

Students in courses with clinical experiences or fieldwork will receive further instruction from the academic leaders in their programs.nt – visit coronavirus.iu.edu.

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22 minutes ago, Inequality said:

For the Indiana folk..

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Not trying to freak anybody out but we’ll find out later this week how inaccurately low these numbers are. The scary thing is nobody can get tested - even those with symptoms are being turned away because nobody has enough. They are saving the tests they have for those with severe symptoms  

just heard from a friend that IU Health just gotta permission to use a test they developed. And when the federal ordered tests arrive, these numbers are going to jump way up. 

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6 hours ago, IUFLA said:

They did the O'Hare Modernization Project instead...added a runway and closed others...I worked in the automation shop at Chicago ARTCC (out in Aurora) at the time, and we redid all of the routes in automation to go either West or South out of O'Hare...Milwaukee is to the North and they're kinda busy, and they don't like departures going out to the East, so...

I'm familiar with where GYY is...we revamped their SIDs (Standard Instrument Departures) and STARs (Standard Terminal Arrival Routes) as well back in 2011 or so...

Well from my understanding. And please correct me if I am wrong. But in order to add an additional runway, Cook county had to displace people out of their homes. And the cost to build JUST ONE runway, was more that it cost to build Denver International Airport.  Which currently has the longest runway in America. And room to build several more runways in the future.

Hey listen. I am not trying to have an argument with you. As I love and respect you.  It's just that Chicago IMHO needs an additional airport.  Whether in Illinois, or Indiana.

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So now all my kids will be home next week when Northwestern’s spring break begins - it is going online like IU, same for my other 2 kids’ schools. 
 

And the Fed has cut interest rates to zero, which will have the immediate effect of another stock market dive. (But time to look into refining your loans.)

Yes, this is overblown. Yes, everyone is going into sheer panick mode on a virus that affects the elderly and people with weakened immune systems. No, it’s generally not a dangerous virus for everyone else. The Flu however is. We don’t ruin the world economy and people’s’ financial lives over the flu. 
 

This is starting to look like some kind of zombie apocalypse show. Or the video game The Division (based on a virus that wrecked the world). Hopefully people / governments will get their crap together and start approaching this in a way that doesn’t force thousand if not millions into financial disaster. This is not a responsible approach to a virus 

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29 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

So now all my kids will be home next week when Northwestern’s spring break begins - it is going online like IU, same for my other 2 kids’ schools. 
 

And the Fed has cut interest rates to zero, which will have the immediate effect of another stock market dive. (But time to look into refining your loans.)

Yes, this is overblown. Yes, everyone is going into sheer panick mode on a virus that affects the elderly and people with weakened immune systems. No, it’s generally not a dangerous virus for everyone else. The Flu however is. We don’t ruin the world economy and people’s’ financial lives over the flu. 
 

This is starting to look like some kind of zombie apocalypse show. Or the video game The Division (based on a virus that wrecked the world). Hopefully people / governments will get their crap together and start approaching this in a way that doesn’t force thousand if not millions into financial disaster. This is not a responsible approach to a virus 

💯 with you on this. Strange and unbelievable.

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7 hours ago, milehiiu said:

Well from my understanding. And please correct me if I am wrong. But in order to add an additional runway, Cook county had to displace people out of their homes. And the cost to build JUST ONE runway, was more that it cost to build Denver International Airport.  Which currently has the longest runway in America. And room to build several more runways in the future.

Hey listen. I am not trying to have an argument with you. As I love and respect you.  It's just that Chicago IMHO needs an additional airport.  Whether in Illinois, or Indiana.

You'll not get an argument from me, simply because those decisions were made at a pay grade higher than mine...they give me the plans, and I make the automation work for the controllers...my job deals more with the execution phase...

That said, on 3/26 Denver's Metroplex initiatives  goes into effect...probably won't realize the fruits til after this Covid-19 issue is gone...

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At this moment. At least 14 major casinos on the Las Vegas strip, have announced they will be closing beginning tomorrow.  We have one bar that is still open in Denver, that is offering free beer to those that can contribute toilet paper of any amount.  Which they intend to give to patrons that need TP.  Also,  a Portland, Oregon distillery is making hand sanitizer and giving it out for free.  And hearing this morning that some Denver restaurants are closed. 

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As of March 13th, there have been 144 CHILDREN die of the flu this season in the US.  That is the highest rate since the H1N1 pandemic of 2009.  

In other words, more than twice as many CHILDREN have died from the flu this season in the US than total people from Covid 19. 

Yet, no one is talking about it.

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3 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

As of March 13th, there have been 144 CHILDREN die of the flu this season in the US.  That is the highest rate since the H1N1 pandemic of 2009.  

In other words, more than twice as many CHILDREN have died from the flu this season in the US than total people from Covid 19. 

Yet, no one is talking about it.

It really is hard to explain just what is driving this insanity. Italy is, as a country, clearly not in great shape. I do not mean to dismiss that this is a serious virus particularly for the elderly and those with diminished immune systems. But there are, I think just as clearly, a number of ways to address such a virus that do not involve shutting down the economy, schools, restaurants, etc., and causing a severe economic crisis nationwide and worldwide that will have, again clearly, awful long-term repercussions for, probably, millions of people. This is just incredibly poorly planned, with incredibly bad repercussions. 

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8 hours ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

So now all my kids will be home next week when Northwestern’s spring break begins - it is going online like IU, same for my other 2 kids’ schools. 
 

And the Fed has cut interest rates to zero, which will have the immediate effect of another stock market dive. (But time to look into refining your loans.)

Yes, this is overblown. Yes, everyone is going into sheer panic mode on a virus that affects the elderly and people with weakened immune systems. No, it’s generally not a dangerous virus for everyone else. The Flu however is. We don’t ruin the world economy and people’s’ financial lives over the flu. 
 

This is starting to look like some kind of zombie apocalypse show. Or the video game The Division (based on a virus that wrecked the world). Hopefully people / governments will get their crap together and start approaching this in a way that doesn’t force thousand if not millions into financial disaster. This is not a responsible approach to a virus 

Sometimes it's hard to establish tone in in text, so I don't ask this in a condescending way because I respect you as a poster and a mod. I'm just curious to know: what needs to happen for you to think this is not overblown? 

Is it if the death toll eventually surpasses that of the flu, or by how much? Is it if we get into a situation like Italy where there's not enough hospital beds to care for the medically compromised - and doctors have to choose lives and dies? Is it, if we begin to run out of healthcare workers because they have been infected?

....because we are in the very beginning stages of this still. 

I'm coming from a place where I've been listening to epidemiologists, disease experts, doctors, researchers, etc. for the last two months being interviewed on podcasts. At first, I thought that it can't get that bad, we will be prepared, etc., but week by week their predictions have come to fruition. Now, they are saying (and I include 'they' as a infectious disease expert and IU Health researcher who I personally know) the number of cases reported is not close to accurate, the government wasn't prepared with testing kits a month ago and this thing has spread in an uncontrolled environment, the number of infected is going to jump GREATLY at the end of the week (or whenever the testing kits are ready and start yielding results), we won't have enough ventilators and we won't have enough hospital beds.

I've heard many people compare this to the flu, which I disagree with. I have not heard ONE expert in infectious diseases say this. Yes many of the same symptoms are the same, but this is the flu on steroids, it's MUCH more contagious, even at low estimates it's much more deadly, and it spreads at a MUCH faster rate. If you want to start comparing numbers to the flu, then wait 2 weeks. Now it's all about flattening the curve to best minimize the chances of our health system being overwhelmed. Perhaps this degree of extreme precautionary measures could've been avoided if we would've been properly prepared to isolate the early cases in the US, but it wasn't, and now we are scrambling and being reactionary.

At this point it is what it is. I want to get back to normal life and it hasn't even been a week. Selfishly, I have a medical procedure that's most likely going to get postponed because it's deemed 'elective', I'm self-employed and business is going to get hammered the longer this goes on, I'm ALREADY sick of my own kids, I just had to cancel a vacation, etc. Many are in the same boat - I'm looking at the people not adhering to self isolation, going out to bars, congregating, etc. as those prolonging the time it takes to get back to normal. For everybody: please remember that being responsible gets us back to 'normal' sooner. 

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55 minutes ago, tdhoosier said:

Sometimes it's hard to establish tone in in text, so I don't ask this in a condescending way because I respect you as a poster and a mod. I'm just curious to know: what needs to happen for you to think this is not overblown? 

Is it if the death toll eventually surpasses that of the flu, or by how much? Is it if we get into a situation like Italy where there's not enough hospital beds to care for the medically compromised - and doctors have to choose lives and dies? Is it, if we begin to run out of healthcare workers because they have been infected?

....because we are in the very beginning stages of this still. 

I'm coming from a place where I've been listening to epidemiologists, disease experts, doctors, researchers, etc. for the last two months being interviewed on podcasts. At first, I thought that it can't get that bad, we will be prepared, etc., but week by week their predictions have come to fruition. Now, they are saying (and I include 'they' as a infectious disease expert and IU Health researcher who I personally know) the number of cases reported is not close to accurate, the government wasn't prepared with testing kits a month ago and this thing has spread in an uncontrolled environment, the number of infected is going to jump GREATLY at the end of the week (or whenever the testing kits are ready and start yielding results), we won't have enough ventilators and we won't have enough hospital beds.

I've heard many people compare this to the flu, which I disagree with. I have not heard ONE expert in infectious diseases say this. Yes many of the same symptoms are the same, but this is the flu on steroids, it's MUCH more contagious, even at low estimates it's much more deadly, and it spreads at a MUCH faster rate. If you want to start comparing numbers to the flu, then wait 2 weeks. Now it's all about flattening the curve to best minimize the chances of our health system being overwhelmed. Perhaps this degree of extreme precautionary measures could've been avoided if we would've been properly prepared to isolate the early cases in the US, but it wasn't, and now we are scrambling and being reactionary.

At this point it is what it is. I want to get back to normal life and it hasn't even been a week. Selfishly, I have a medical procedure that's most likely going to get postponed because it's deemed 'elective', I'm self-employed and business is going to get hammered the longer this goes on, I'm ALREADY sick of my own kids, I just had to cancel a vacation, etc. Many are in the same boat - I'm looking at the people not adhering to self isolation, going out to bars, congregating, etc. as those prolonging the time it takes to get back to normal. For everybody: please remember that being responsible gets us back to 'normal' sooner. 

This is certainly an area where people are going to disagree, and no offense taken, at all.

This virus, according to every expert out there, affects the elderly and those with diminished immune systems. It is not dangerous to kids, it is not dangerous to most people across the wide age ranges up to the elderly, or those with healthy immune systems. This is, also, per the "experts." Your not comparing it to the flu based on number of cases is misleading. It really is. It's not a matter of just number of cases -- communicability -- it is how many people become seriously ill and die every single year, to the flu, vs. how many people have died (and in what ages) worldwide to this virus. The flu kills vastly more people, kids, and healthy folks, across all age ranges.

The real point or comparison here though is not that this disease does not, or might not eventually kill more people than the flu, it is that, CLEARLY, the flu is an extremely serious diseases that kills people in very large numbers across all age ranges every single year, and we do NOT shut down the world economy over it. Think about the consequences to everyone. Thousands and thousands of people are losing and will lose their jobs, thelr livelihoods, their retirement income/retirement accounts, etc. etc. The stock market is headed towards the great crash of the 20's.

Meanwhile, as of now, appx 6,500  people have died from this virus. The CDC estimates that each year between 12,000 and 61,000 people die from the flu. How many people died from the swine flu alone? Per the CDC, 151,000 to almost 550,000 people worldwide. Almost half a million people, but the world did not go into panic and destroy world economies.

So serious question for you. Do you really think this is being handled correctly? 

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