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Jesus. That is the most stupid thing I’ve seen

Why no Reneau?!?

It would be really nice to find a way to win this game

We are the best fans in the country at evacuating during a fire alarm.

We just aren’t very good at basketball

“Well ya know Don, here’s the thing, and Mike Woodson always takes the blame and doesn’t point fingers at the players, but X has been hurt. You had to expect him to get a flagrant tonight, his mind is rusty. And I’m not the one missing them shots. Hell Don, it isn’t even my job to get them open shots. My job is to get them over the hump. Lotta season left, we’ll be okay. Just gotta keep working and get them over the hump.” - Mike Woodson to Don Fischer, on 2/27 and 9:07 PM.

Totally agree. We finished four spots better on KenPom last year than Archie’s best team. We got blown out in the first weekend. Last year was fine, and fine was the best we’ve had in a while, but it wasn’t good. This team is very possibly going to go down as the worst team sans Crean’s first few that anyone on this board has seen. It’s not “just a bad season”.

So you think this all boils down to just being one off year?

But he said just this week he plays two bigs and he doesn’t care what the analytics say about it. Thats what has me confused about folks saying he wants to play four out, he flat out said he doesn’t want to do it this week even though it’s worked better with this team.

I understand you think that, and then I asked questions based on that which you chose to ignore. I would really like to understand why we think this year is not his preferred play style based on Woodson's history and his own comments.

He likes to message board while driving

It's kind of up to him though, isn't it? No one can force him to retire, but if he can't see the train coming down the tracks there isn't much you can do to get him over the hump.

I'm curious what makes you think he is capable of wanting to change? Does the quote about ignoring analytics saying we are better playing 4 around 1 and him clapping back about playing two bigs concern you? What about the fact that he forced the Knicks to play bigger after having a good season and it got him fired, does that concern you about his intentions?

At this point the shovel may be his mouth. The things he says are indefensible.

Yeah, has anyone ever hired a coach from there?

I don't understand how anyone can read that article and those quotes and still support him.

Of all the stupid things that have been said, this may be the worst. Is the team frustrated and Mike Woodson just oblivious? Does honorable, leader of men Mike Woodson actually realize they are frustrated, and he's just lying to us? Does the entire team and staff just care so little that having one of the worst seasons in the history of the program not frustrate them? I am sure someone can spin this to not be a big deal, but I'm really struggling to see how that isn't just a completely damning thing to admit from him.

That's not completely fair to Woodson, he has changed in the past. Like when he was with the Knicks and won a lot of games playing a perimeter oriented scheme, and then the next year he changed to something more similar to what we see now and he got fired. See he's changed.... to play exactly how he plays now, even though it doesn't work.

I think it's at best an over-simplification, if not flat out wrong, to say we play the way we play because of roster limitations and misses in recruiting. Even despite those limitations and misses, this team is not playing in the most optimized way from a schematic standpoint. Why do we think Woodson is going to suddenly play a better scheme when the reason he isn't doing it this year isn't because of roster limitations.

This would have effectively ended the game, instead Auburn gave their last foul, then fouled Kyle Guy on the corner three.

Yeah, this is not about 1 bad year. It's a little insulting for anyone to say people just want a coach fired over one bad year when that is clearly not what is going on.

That or the terrible missed double dribble.

Right, nothing Bruce Pearl actually did registers as even a moral grey area. If we are going to hold Pearl's association with Person against him, we should probably do the same to Woodson for his friendship with Zeke. Zeke is a worse person than Person, IMO.