Jump to content

BGleas

Administrators
  • Posts

    11,192
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    136

Posts posted by BGleas

  1. 1 minute ago, Maedhros said:

    Appreciate the kind words, but there might be a misunderstanding. I'm saying the resumes of the two schools are closer than bracketologists are projecting. Efficiency metrics are disparate because of scoring margins, and that drives KenPom, Torvik and NET rankings. But NCAA resumes are outcome based, and after today the actual wins, losses and quality of opponents aren't far off between us and MSU.

    Right, but the difference is the wins and losses within those different quads. Not every Quad 1 or Quad 2 win in the same, and beyond the efficiency metrics, those wins and losses with the Quad ranges are also a separator. 

  2. I just looked at the boxscores for the FGCU, Morehead St and Wright State games. In each of those games we had 4 starters play 30+. 

    The idea that those games were closer because Woodson took his foot off the gas and didn't want to run up the scores is just not reality. 

    They were close because we weren't good. 

    • Like 5
    • Thanks 3
    • Sad 1
  3. 5 minutes ago, Maedhros said:

    NET should only ever matter when it comes to the ranking of a team's opponents, not of the team itself. NET has shown to be heavily reliant on efficiency metrics, but those are predictive, not descriptive. A team's own ranking in the NET tells you nothing about who they played, who they beat, or who didn't. Too many analysts, and fans too, are using NET interchangeably with an S-curve, and that's not at all how the tool should be used. 

    MSU has a quality win against Baylor that we don't have, and that's really the only thing that should have them in the field ahead of us. By Wins Above Bubble they rank 60. We rank 61.

    Great post! Yes, while our records are similar to MSU within the Quad 1/2 ranges, who each of us beat and lost too isn't the same. 

  4. 3 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said:

    We might have an outside chance for the tournament, if we win three in the BTT, and get to the championship game.  We’d finish 21-14 and that just might do it (wishful thinking)….at worst, we’re definitely in the NIT.

    I dont think it's really possible, but for discussion sake it would probably require one of those wins to be against Purdue. 

  5. Just now, Seeking6 said:

    Which shows how easy the numbers can be manipulated.

    Of course there are other threads for that. Really good win Hoosiers!

    The numbers weren't manipulated negatively with IU though. We simply weren't good. 

    We didn't take care of our own business. Barely beat terrible teams and blown out by good ones. 

    Not every win/loss is created equal. 

    • Like 8
  6. Just now, madmax said:

    Even if we are awful next year, I am genuinely excited to not watch X next year. 

    The only thing more completely mind-boggling than XJ's play is the belief Woodson has in him. 

    That's literally one of the most concerning things. 

    • Like 3
    • Thanks 1
  7. College basketball is ridiculous with all of these reviews. For like the last minute of this UNC-Duke game anytime anyone makes a shot the refs immediately blow the whistle and run to the monitor to check the clock, check the shooters feet (even though they were clearly behind the 3pt line), etc. 

    We don't care for 38 minutes and then the last two we just murder the flow of the game every chance we get. 

    So annoying. 

    • Like 4
  8. 4 minutes ago, iuthruandthru said:

    I disagree as well.  I have many contacts in business and family across the country and visit places with my IU gear on.  No one has ever said anything about IU fans.  If anything they feel sad for us based off our history.  Most of the fans aren’t on the internet or message boards.  It’s a few bad eggs and most people have no idea they exist.

    Same. I've lived on the east coast in different states for 30+ years. I've never once had a reaction from friends, co-workers or whatever when it comes to IU other than, "what is wrong with that program. Are they ever going to get it together. It's a sleeping giant." 

    I've never had anyone ask me about the fans being crazy or toxic. Only how great IU fans are. 

    • Like 7
  9. Just now, IU Scott said:

    I agree but I watch national podcasts and this is our reputation like it or not. I don't always agree with their takes but it is how they see us.

    Agree to disagree. Completely fine. 

    If that is the reputation, then shame on IU and the IU media for letting that be the narrative as opposed to all of the numerous things (and it's a long list) that make the IU fan base one of the best in the country. 

    • Like 5
  10. 1 minute ago, IU Scott said:

    I agree but like it or not that is the reputation we have outside of our fan base. Sometimes perception becomes reality. Also when you are losing all the other coaches will use this in recruiting. Besides UK fans you never see anything nationally about other fan bases being lunatics.

    I'm not sure that's really the reputation, but even if that's accurate the reason you hear about all still ties back to the ineptitude of IU's administration. 

    Fans wouldn't be so crazy if IU acted like a real, elite basketball program. The fans are the only thing keeping IU even remotely close to relevancy. 

    Someone else said it, but without the fans IU is Minnesota. IU is Clemson. IU is Washington. 

    • Like 3
  11. 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

    The problem is the extreme fans who are being vocal is what makes our reputation. Also the ones that goes after the coach personally and go after their families is where I would draw the line. I find nothing wrong critiquing his coaching and wanting a new coach.

    Agree to a large extent. Tweeting at recruits, family members, coaches, etc, should be completely out of bounds and off limits. 

    There's no reason to get personal with players, coaches, recruits, etc. Completely agree and I don't and never have supported that. 

    My point is, IU as a fanbase is no worse than Duke, UNC, Kansas, Michigan, OSU, etc., etc. The difference is IU's program has been a joke and completely mismanaged for 30 years. 

    The fans are the symptom. Fixing IU's broken administration and approach to building a basketball program is preventing the disease. 

    • Like 4
×
×
  • Create New...