Inequality

Crean had Wade and at Marquette. Davis was off of RMKs build and at IU. Not close to what Dusty did on his own at FAU. Miller did it at Dayton but failed at IU but that does not automatically mean that Dusty will do the same at Michigan. Who knows? The bags thrown at Woodson this season in an effort to aid his success right now could have made a huge difference when Miller was here. Never know? There sure is an extra emphasis this off season to try and erase the turd of last season. Winning the transfer portal doesn't exactly mean he is now all of the sudden successful. Back to May. He is one of our own so I wont hope for his failure. Similar for Woodson. I don't hope for his failure, but I also don't think he's a great coach for IU. Maybe just as his original hire has proven, he needs a lot of help around him to be successful. It appears he is getting tons of help now so hopefully it pans out. Like everyone here I just want to win. If that means refinancing the entire city of Bloomington to do it, Im all for it. Kidding there. Actually I think the NIL is killing what was enjoyable amateur college sports. Notice the word college as if there was once some educational benefit to attending college as an athlete. I also know it’s always been there behind the scenes before becoming legal but now it’s just out of control.

To be fair, same thing can be said about Woodson. If he didn't play at IU and so forth. He was on zero coaching search list this off season and has yet to win a game with his portal all star team. Im curious to see if Dusty can lift that program and how quickly. He put FAU on the map for a brief moment but the B1G wont be so nice to him as he is likely aware. I hope he is largely successful and that he only “crashes and burns” when playing IU.

6+ million dollar team on the way

As much as I would like for a B1G team to bring some clout to the conference and as good as Purdue is this season, UConn is the better team and wins this one.

I don't think there is much more that can be said on this topic that hasn't been on repeat since January. While I would be willing to bet 100 to anyones dollar that this current staff absolutely will not be bringing us a natty, it seems the path is set and is what it is so we all might as well find our seat on the bus. That said I have all intent of retiring myself from participating in this thread for the remainder of the post season. I would like to remind us all to do our best to keep the other threads on topic and direct all disgruntled discussion of the staff and thoughts on the negative trajectory of the basketball program to this thread so folks can enjoy other topics.

I don't think the school matters to these kids nearly what we would like for it to if at all. Its instant legal NIL now which is being heavily exploited. Combine that with the coach who they think can pull the right strings and they have their destination. As long as Cal is a head coach he will be known as a stepping stone to the NBA. Sadly, I think top ranked hs kids get caught up in instant riches and worry less about a coaches developmental ability. Not that they always haven't I guess but it seems to be more prevalent now that throwing bags is legal.

My guess is Arkansas will soon have the 2nd best recruiting class. I feel like those recruits committed to the John Calipari path to the NBA and not Kentucky Blue.

Pearl

Money talks

Sweet 16 baby!!!

Haha! Your last sentence made me lol.

I have zero doubts about Dustys ability to build a competitive program. Obviously Michigan and Louisville were willing to take that gamble. Michigan will be a problem for us and I expect Dusty to get kids like Mullins and Sisley.

Smh… and we are stuck with… bah… nvm. Not at all surprised.

May to Louisville gaining steam on social platforms

This is IU basketball! Im proud of these ladies!

Might be an upgrade from one that doesn't make it at all?

Colorado takes down Florida. For anyone that might have forgotten, IU didn't even make the dance. Nadda. Thats below “mediocre”. In each game there will be a loser and a winner. Making fun of the loser when you’re not even in the same race is silly.

Pearl be the obvious choice. I don't see it ever happening. At this point, anyone with an unknown trajectory feels better than the current forecast.

May is doing more with less compared to the resources and level of talent available to B1G schools all while we sit on the outside looking in.

I am of the belief that since he has escaped being released this year, the only way he isn't the coach is if he retires. And, now that he has lowered the bar of expectations, any form of improvement next season will be considered a positive trajectory in comparison. What I fear is his inability or unwillingness to bring in high school recruits is going to haunt us. Also, he says he was brought here to win a championship and it’s clear to anyone with a pulse that absolutely will not happen under his watch.

Most folks think if you’re lacking throw money at it. Meanwhile coaches at small town universities create a real fundamental foundation and get a leg up by actually developing players and evolving the strengths of their program. When the money runs out or there is a lapse in talent, your weakness gets exposed and your back to dumpster fire. Imagine IU spending loads of money buying as much talent as possible to try and win the national championship they gave away when firing a guy over phone calls and weed. Money pouring in at IU is nothing new. But a coach like Teri Moren needs very little in comparison to sustain a competitive edge. She has a culture and program established. Maybe they could just pay the fans some name image likeness funds to not boo Woodson out of town.

Too many chiefs and not enough Indians. If it’s time to move on then move. Delaying when the picture is clear in this case is a continuation of failure. He has zero high school kids coming in. None. When do you all remember that as being a thing. This isn't the NBA, Mr Woodson. The portal is not the NBA draft as you’re treating it to be.

-High school recruiting will suffer with any hint that a coach is gone next season. -A better staff could bring in and assemble a better team and build a foundation sooner rather than later. (Leave the program in a better position) -If it’s Pearl you seek of your top three and he wants it, why wait? He could build now plus he's not getting any younger. The opportunity might not be the same a year from now. None of it makes sense. Im not buying whats being served on that site.

So age is the new topic and what was taken from my post as objectionable. Oh joy. Buckner, Thomas et al of the Woodson era have pushed him into position. Older folks. Because anyone way younger than 45 I am guessing has no idea who he is or was. Age is completely relevant when it comes to Woodson being selected as head coach. Not because of his age directly but indirectly because of his affiliation with folks in charge of same or similar age that drool over his teenage skillset. Since you brought up May, what Dusty May has accomplished as a college coach is much more proven than that of Woodson no matter the age. All while doing it with peanuts compared to what Woodson has done with IU resources. While the crown at IU may have once carried more weight, coaches like Dusty have shown it to be less relevant today by building winning programs at teeny tiny schools with zero history and minimal basketball following. Because he is a good coach who can get more with less. Woodson on the other hand needs billionaires and NBA allstars. Dusty has created a winning culture capable of beating an Arizona with kids not many were after, in a gym the size of most middle school gyms. Bruce Pearl might even be the same age as Woodson but is a proven winning college coach. In IUs case though its nostalgia. Folks of older generations trying to hang onto a thread of the RMK era. Woodson, a once Knight pupil has come to save IU from the clutches of modernism and innovation of which IU has escaped but to fail undeniably unless your an “true fan” willing to follow blindly.