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Your contract could dictate that Indiana doesn't financially want to make the move if/when the job becomes available. You are maybe playing Devil's Advocate but I look at it like this, you got a buddy who is still working for a company you started your career with. He says people in the company have noticed you and think you would be a good fit for leadership there. However, they just publically doubled down on the person whose job you would supposedly be the fit for and you have 3 other offers at other really good companies offering you multiple times your current salary and more resources to do the type of job you do for your current company. I'm not waiting around for that mythical offer no matter how much that may be my dream job. In my experience, those "you are totally our next guy" positions rarely come to fruition. You make your move when you are at your peak and if dream job isn't offering now, you take the job being offered. Now if dream job comes calling and you are still interested in a year or two, you can still make your move. Even then though, you could both want it but the finances aren't there to actually make the move. If I am Dusty May and it is confirmed Woodson is locked in for next year and Ohio State offers me $3.5+ million to come be their coach, then I am a Buckeye in the here and now and I will figure out that other stuff if we ever come across that bridge.

If he goes to one of those places and does really well from jump and we have another season floating around the bubble or worse, people are going to be capital P pissed.

They need to back off the "true fans" crap.

You didn't even need more wins. You just needed to not have all the close games against bottom of the barrel teams in November and December and show up to a few of the games you got blown out in.

The Big Ten as a whole was much worse than predicted. Finishing 6th in Big Ten preseason didn't mean the same thing after the games were played and a bunch of teams (like Michigan St.) were shown to be wildly overrated in the preseason. (I know you realize this but things like this are just mind numbingly stupid. It is peeing on people's heads and when they complain telling them it is rain.)

Guy with exact same record as guy he is discussing says that guy did a good job. Insert shocked face here.

Habit and an emotional attachment developed in our youth. My kids aren't Indiana fans. I mean they wear the gear and they will pop their head in and ask me who is winning from time to time, but they aren't fans like I was at their age. If we had this Indiana growing up, there are a whole bunch of us that probably wouldn't have been fans....

Antagonizing fans with his record is an interesting way to wrap up the season....

Happy for the guys

We got nothing else worth talking about right now, hit us with the TJD gossip.

Completely agree. You fill holes with the portal, not build rosters.

Yeah, but logically what he is saying has to be the plan for next year at the very least.

https://btownbanners.com/topic/14310-fire-coach-woodson/?do=findComment&comment=878434 So grain of salt because message board, but this is supposedly the master plan.

Oh I know that it isn't much but it is really the only method I have to show my displeasure. And really the school is about optics, if Assembly Hall ndxt year looked like Maryland's attendance this year, they would take notice. I'm not happy with the school and I don't want to show up to boo and I don't bother writing to them because they aren't read. An empty seat is my voice.

All the money goes to the same place. All that said, I like what I am hearing from that staff too.

I don't like the decisions they are making and therefore don't want to support them with my money.

If you want Mike Woodson to park correctly, you bring the parking spot to Mike Woodson.

I was going to football games, I will stop attending.

I also want to add, there is nothing wrong with what Woodson likes as long as you realize that about yourself and act accordingly. I would have all the respect in the world for Woodson if he basically came out and said, "You know what, I love Indiana University and I love coaching. However, I don't love all the other aspects that a college coach has to do outside those two things to be successful the way the game has gone these days. Therefore I am going to retire early so that someone who does love those things can build on what we have done here to set the groundwork for NIL and the modern approach. I will be available to help that person continue to grow this place that I love so much." If Woodson came out and said something like that at Senior night, much respect and standing ovation from the crowd and he still gets to be Woodson the hero. If he holds on for whatever reason and doesn't change up the things he isn't doing for whatever reason he isn't doing them though, he is going to tarnish his legacy. Brad Stevens knew he didn't like the college life. Jay Wright has said the new game isn't for him. Other coaches have expressed similar thoughts as of late. And I get it, some of this really sucks from my POV as well. It is the reality though. So if Woodson isn't 100% bought in to what it takes, he needs to be self aware enough to say he isn't the guy. And that reasoning would have nothing to do with his coaching ability, it is all about preference. That off ramp is available, I would love to see him take it.

Our head coach doesn't like recruiting (apparently) and therefore is not as engaged in that process as he needs to be. He doesn't do well in long term recruiting. I think that is because he doesn't enjoy doing that and has other priorities and believes he can cobble together a team like they do in the pros through the college equivalent of free agency. I really think it is that simple. Recruiting high school kids requires more effort and ass-kissing than Woodson wants to do or believes he should have to do so he avoids it. He is used to pro relationships where you don't have to coddle dudes. That isn't this game. That is my conjecture based on observation, things Woodson has said, and hearsay.

That is because the only other fan bases that come anywhere close in size to Indiana's when it comes to online presence are schools that generally do well. Only Duke has a bigger online presence. The next closest are UNC and Kansas. Other fanbases are too small to notice. We have over 7 times as many people on Twitter(X) as UConn and over 6 times more than Purdue. The problem is and was that Indiana markets itself as being one of those other 3 schools up with it but they don't actually operate like them. They want all the benefits associated with that kind of fan engagement but they really haven't done much to actually earn it in over 23 years. The fans have an emotional attachment to the program and the University sells that program to them based on that emotional connection. Then they rarely live up to what they promise. That creates pissed off customers. And you add people like Hoosier Hysterics who are basically supported by the University because of access that come out before every year and talk the program up like they are going to be awesome, knowing that quite a bit of that is just wish-casting, and you just help feed the negativity when it goes wrong. If Indiana really believes that what they are rolling out is what the program is going to be, they need to start matching that with their messaging. Stop pointing at banners and talking about how awesome and part of b-ball royalty we are and instead get out there and start mimicking what Iowa and Minnesota do to promote their basketball teams. When you keep promising a Ferrari and delivering a Honda Civic (which is an adequate car) it creates displeasure in the adequate car.

He and Race were hard to place honestly. If you were really going to upgrade that roster, making them both bench contributors was the way to go. I just think we have been missing athleticism at that 3 spot for years. Even Mgbako (who is a good player) isn't the type of guy I would want there.

I would have put Kopp at the 4 and got a more dynamic wing.

Yes and I want to be clear, I am pissed and I think we have every right to express our displeasure to each other. Anybody tweeting back at an actual player is an @$$-hat. If you are so upset that it would lead to you showing up just to boo the team tomorrow, just don't go. That is the only acceptable form of (in person) protest IMO, your absence.