WanamakerIUFan

LSU won a title under both Les Miles & Ed Orgeron. Saban won the won before those two. The SEC is ridiculous. Just ridiculous. I was thinking about this the other day, just consider the coaches in the SEC West. Nick Saban - has won multiple national titles at two different programs Jimbo Fisher - won a title at Florida St. Ed Orgeron - won a title at LSU & remember he was a part of those USC championship teams Mike Leach - considered one of the best football minds Lane Kiffin - has coached USC, Tennessee & the Raiders before learning under Saban. Bryan Harsin - new kid but did really well at Boise St. Sam Pittman - building a lot of momentum down at Arkansas and that's just the SEC West.

This x1000. If this turns out to be true the program is dead. Never would have guessed this in a million years. I guess wait and see, but this is simply jaw dropping.

I've thought about this too. I'm not saying BS is coming to IU but I'm in the camp that believes there was an awful lot of smoke and things fell apart. But maybe they didn't. Even with all the conspiracy things out of the way, Boston is toast this year and everyone knows it. That's 8 seasons as HC without a title. It's NEVER happened in Celtics history. I don't follow the NBA enough to know but is the trajectory of Boston in the next 2-3 years one in which they win titles? Are they better than Philly? Milwaukee? Brooklyn? Heck KenPom has Indiana & Atlanta as better than Boston as I write this. Then there is the West. Are they going to be better than Denver, LAC, LAL, Utah, Phoenix, Portland or even Dallas. Like I say the leash can't be "Hey, BS is our guy & we'll continue on for 20 years no matter what." His seat is warm (at least by media/fans standards) and it's only going to get hotter. Brad is a smart guy. If he hasn't applied game theory to his own situation then I'd be shocked. Maybe he really does want to be an NBA executive. If so then all this is moot, but if he really does want to be in coaching, then the timing makes sense to jump unless he's 100% invested in being an NBA coach for the rest of his career. I guess it could later too, but right now the timing makes sense. My ultimate nightmare though is BS passes up IU, we move on, and in 2-3 years, the Celtics haven't make a run, BS's seat is ON FIRE and he decides to go back to college when Duke or UNC open up. Yikes.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31109722/marcus-smart-says-boston-celtics-recently-held-team-meeting-spur-turnaround This article struck me as somewhat interesting. I know we've all pretty much moved on from this conversation given what Stevens himself has said, but if he's only told Dolson "no" once.........Still think there was entirely too much smoke to dismiss this outright.

I'm with you. I had quite a few sources with this one through my profession and I'm very curious as to what exactly happened.

Agree 100%. That's what I mean though. Those organizations would love to have him but it's an odd look in that those teams are never necessarily going to be relevant due to market size or whatever or that star players don't want to play there & the NBA is a very players driven league. I'm just saying, Stevens could look back over at a 20-year NBA coaching career and not see very much in regards to legacy.

This speaks to my point as well. Let's say Boston wants Stevens gone & Stevens still is so "I'm all in on the NBA". His "I'm a Masshole and a Patriots fan for life." How does that play when his next job is coaching the Timberwolves, Grizzlies, Magic or Kings? It makes him look....odd?

here is the problem I have with this and i trust your knowledge of the celtics and feel for the NBA, but when does the leash end? Stevens is in his 8th year & the Celtics just lost by double digits at home to the Kings. I know one game in the NBA is virtually meaningless, but it's still a bad look. Boston isn't going to win the NBA championship this season. I guess you can never say never but odds are long. Is that different next year? Maybe maybe not, but then that's Stevens' 9th year with no titles? Each year that passes by, the emphasis on championships gets greater and greater and greater. Not saying I agree with it, but at what point does the Boston media or Boston ownership say, "The results don't exactly match the hype."? Ainge & Co. love the guy that much they are willing to let him go 10-12 years and see what happens?

Smith is special and that's an understatement. I think CAM makes a huge mistake if this guy isn't wearing candy stripes. I don't think CAM makes a huge mistake.

Hey guys! As I've said before I do a lot of sports psych and what makes a player a player more from a mental side of things. I can say from this picture Smith reminds me a lot of what I saw in Galloway in high school. I've seen Smith a few times his fresh/soph year up in Westfield and you can tell right away from a "look". Maybe even more so than Galloway in certain instances. I saw some of Smith as a freshman and his psychology jumps right out at you. The way he moves, facial expressions, team/coach interactions. It's hard to speculate what his complete upside is, but I'm confident (again, this is from an outside perspective as I haven't worked with Smith personally) that any issues Smith will have with basketball will not be mental. I'd be willing to bet quite a lot that his basketball IQ is off the charts and his mental toughness is even higher. I doubt there is a tougher kid in his class. That isn't to say there aren't kids as tough, but just that you wouldn't find any tougher. I'm trying to think of a past player that has this look. Maybe Michael Lewis off the top of my head from a "toughness" perspective. Sorry I couldn't give any evidence of his height though