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7 minutes ago, WRSMick55 said:

Some are saying you can’t go ten deep but I think Woody would love to sub out the starting 5 with a bench 5 in mass,. The key to doing so and be effective is the talent gap between your best players and your worst has to be small. You play your best players the most minutes. Not a close enough gap between best and worst in college to make it work.

FTR, I'm not saying it's impossible. But there's depth and there's 'stupid depth'. You need 'stupid depth' to get close to a platoon substitution in CBB. On top of that you'll need to avoid injuries....so that stupid depth is more like 11-12 deep. And selling that in today's climate of transfers, NIL and the desire for playing time is a tough task. 

Maybe I'll be proven wrong though. 

19 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Last year, Auburn didn't have any player over 25 mpg, and 10 over 14 mpg...So, yeah...

That's one team.....good example.  

I say this, more-so because the stars need to align to make this happen. One injury and everything is shot to hell. 

And there is a difference between a steady induction of fresh players getting rotated in over time vs 4-5 new players getting subbed in with in a a 2 minute window, which is more reminiscent to what you'd see in the NBA and is what Woody seemingly would like to do. 

18 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said:

We’ve got 4 more spots, I believe. 

Essegian, Power, Malone, and Carlyle. 

Woody wants to play 10 deep.  That’s probably a legit 10 deep rotation. He can shut everyone up about having shooting and dynamic guards.  

We've heard this one before.....

I don't buy it. How many teams in recent years have legitimately played 10 deep? I do think Woody will keep trying though. 

2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

He's gunna play goalie for us 

The 'Human IUD' BLOCKING SHOTS!!!

....maybe I gotta work on that nickname. 

sorry, it's Friday. 

2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

6'10 with a 7'4 wingspan 

so, he can just put his arms up in the air? haha

1 minute ago, DC2345 said:

It shouldn't. Malone is a 5. He can stretch the floor but he's a 5. IU still needs another 4 imo.

How is he defensively? Is he a threat to block/alter shots? 

I know nothing about this dude. 

30 minutes ago, ForHumanity said:

I don't think there will be a season next year. Big events coming that will change our lives.

39 minutes ago, Maedhros said:

I once tried to get into Axis underage, no fake ID or anything. Not to drink, I just really wanted to see Victor Wooten. Obviously the bouncer up front wasn't having it, but I got real close to talking my way in through a side door. Two folks were out there smoking, might have been with the band. The woman was all for letting us in, said her kids sneak into shows all the time, but the guy waited for her to go back in, then apologized and said he couldn't do it and shut the door on us.

I might've been at that show! Saw Victor at the Bird and Axis (or whatever it's name was at the time). Him and his brother Reggie put on the best shows - jaw on the floor type of musicianship. Probably saw them another 2 or 3 times after college. 

The article lead off with divisive political decisions as a reason for the vote of no confidence. However, buried in the middle.....

The reasons for no-confidence votes vary from institution to institution. The most common scenario behind such votes recently has been faculty displeasure with large-scale academic restructuring and budget reductions directed by presidents, provosts and boards of trustees.

Seems about right in this news climate. Get people hyped up on political emotions and then drop a seemingly important footnote later in the article.  

16 minutes ago, iuswingman said:

That doesn't make the salaries and NIL amounts any less ridiculous 

I think you're twisting yourselves into knots over a feeling. What we 'feel' is right, wrong, too much or not enough does not correlate into what reality is. You have the right to complain about it, but at the end of the day it's irrelevant. College athletic departments make a LOT of money. Good coaches and good players are in high demand because a winning product is lucrative for the athletic departments, the tv channels and the advertisers.. Thus, a percentage of this outrageously high revenue is paid to coaches and players. And rightfully so, I mean, they are the product everybody pays to see.

And even on top of all that, college basketball and football fund pretty much all other sports at their universities, giving athletes in other sports more opportunities. 

We - all the fanatics on this board - are a reason why the revenue is so high. If you 'feel' that there's too much money in college athletics then stop giving them money with your viewership. 

It's all about supply and demand. 

8 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said:

All of the following are real quotes from high-major D1 college basketball coaches:

Sounds like they're talking about the portal/NIL, doesn't it?

They're not. 

Know what they're talking about? They're talking about the exact thing that everyone in this thread is clamoring for, even the "old school" guys.....

All of the above quotes are from 1986-87, and the coaches are talking about the adoption of the 3 point line. 

Just a reminder that even in our own personal "good old days", there was a "get off my lawn" guy yearning for HIS "good old days".  Things are always evolving.  That doesn't make change inherently good or inherently bad, but change is always present. 

 

I sometimes wonder at the root of everything is generational envy. "This young generation has it easy." "The younger generation is all about money." "The younger generation has no loyalty." etc.

I didn't get to play with a 3 point line, why can they? 

I couldn't earn money playing college sports, why can they? 

Boomers received similar criticism when they were young and now dish it. Same thing with Generation X. Same thing is starting with Millennials. We're all guilty. 

I think it's just a societal thing that will never change. I'm sure that in the Paleolithic period cavemen were complaining their kids had it so easy because the wheel was invented. 

Change happens. We adapt. It becomes the norm. 

In the words of Jeff Tweedy: 

And that's not wrong or right
But you can struggle with it all you like
You'll only get uptight

✌️

...and that's my philosophical thought for the day.

3 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

 

 

I don't know if it's accurate, but there was some chatter that Hickman had concerns with IU's offense and his visit didn't dispel those concerns.

Did he visit? Or did the staff go to his house because he lives in Bloomington?

Either way, he went elsewhere. 

12 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Probably part of the negative recruiting DC2345 referenced

It’s not rocket science and it’s not some devious conspiracy. Just show him the stat sheet. He knows Ballo is coming in, thus the ball will be going into the post a lot. He knows he’d be sharing what’s left of those attempts with Mgbako.

He’s at the top of my wish list, but that’s all it is at this point: a wish.

This is just the way Woody plays. I’m sure they want the high volume/high percentage 3 point shooters many of us crave, but based on history and how our line up is shaping up, it’s going to be a hard sell.  

And it will continue to be a hard sell. 

8 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

Maybe Conwell is butt hurt we didn’t go after him sooner as in previous years, high school, beginning of portal this year. 

Maybe it’s because he’s a high volume 3 point shooter and we don’t shoot 3’s at a high volume. He averaged a little over 7 attempts per game. In comparison, our highest volume shooter from 3 was MM; he averaged 4.6 attempts.

1 minute ago, Reacher said:

I know we need a shooter but not sure how many minutes will be available for him. I think Leal, with his knowledge of the system / IQ might be a better option.

Better than an empty seat on the bench. 

1 minute ago, btownqb said:

This rectified our defensive rebounding issues, imo. 

Malik, MM make reasonable gains in that area and I expect it to be a strength... Rice avged 3+ 

And our offensive rebounding. Hoping for a significant upgrade in extra possessions. 

3 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Did they tell the pilot to not let Ballo on the plane until he commits to IU

He’s staying in Bloomington. Monday of Little 5 week was so good, he just wanted to experience the rest. 😎

Lol. In the last 90 minutes it went from Ballo is ours, to he’s still going to visit Louisville, to he canceled his visit and is ours again, to he’s going to visit Calipari, and now he’s ours again. 

27 minutes ago, Purdue7 said:

Lots of IU ❤️ 

Last 5 minutes is IU talk if anybody is interested. I think a few leaps are made, but entertaining none the less. The shocker out of that clip: apparently between Ballo, Rice and Carlyle the NIL spend is $3.3 million. Don't know how true that figure is, but that's what he claims. 

16 minutes ago, HoosierDPU95 said:

Having no access to newspaper for many years now, I've found this stuff with paper towels works wonders

 

That's that foaming stuff. It's the bee's knees. 

1 minute ago, Hoosier987 said:

Differing opinions but I think if Leal is playing 15mpg then we didn’t address our shooting needs. Regardless, I think Woodson addresses the issue. 

I love that Leal had some good games last year. There was a lot of ‘I told you so’ after those games. BUT, my concern before the year started was not necessarily whether he could or couldn’t contribute. I thought IF we truly needed his minutes (which we did), then we were going to be in deep doo doo. That it probably would mean that CJ Gunn and Banks didn’t develop the way we hoped.

And that’s what happened. 

If Leal gets 15 mpg next year, something has gone wrong and we are probably a bubble team at best. 

47 minutes ago, HoosierDPU95 said:

This probably should go in a different thread but I'm not sure which one. The term "shooter" has come up a lot in this thread though so I'll post here. What are folks thinking with statements like "he's not a shooter" or "we need shooters"?

Are folks wanting/expecting someone like Hulls where the player has one job and that is to knock down 3's at a +40% with defense, rebounding, driving the ball, etc. being optional?

or

Are folks wanting/expecting someone like Mark Sears that shoots +50% from the field +40% from 3, +80% from the line and can also kill you off the dribble, play D and rebound?

or

Are folks wanting/expecting something in between?

I'm not making a case one way or the other for what "shooter" should mean here, I'm just trying to understand what other's are wanting/expecting.

I'm not diminishing the need for athletic guards who can create a shot for themselves and drive. Let's get these guys. If they can hit at a good rate from 3....even better. 

BUT if we have Ballo/Malik in the paint drawing doubles, not getting a high 30%/low 40% 3 point shooter (or two) to burn opponents for double teaming us in the paint will be a disappointment, IMO. I'm not saying this player(s) needs to be a starter, but one who is a capable defender and can give us quality minutes if our offense stalls. I love the idea of Hickman and Conwell. 

4 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Sarcastic about what? 

lots of myths here... but I still don't see the correlation to that and the thinking Carlyle will start over TG. He, by in large, plays the correct people. He just doesn't always do himself justice in the off-season, by leaving glaring holes open, and not giving himself enough options. 

Either way-- I don't see parallels between some of these "examples" in regards to who would start between TG/Carlyle. 

Sarcastic about the fans thinking one thing and Woody doing something different.

But that is my point exactly. Myths are perpetrated by fans....like penciling in Carlyle over Gallo. Some things seem to make sense in the moment. 

From a defensive perspective, do you honestly see Woody having Mgbako (the weakest defender in our starting line up last year) and 2 players new to his system on the court at the same time? When a 5th year senior is on the bench? 

Many people (I wasn't one of them) thought Kopp should've had less minutes because of his lack of offensive production, but Woody gave him a lot of minutes because he was a veteran and a great systematic defender. 

And who knows if Carlyle is even coming here. No knock on him, but he has a pretty similar skill set as Rice. IF he does come here, I'd have to imagine it'd be under the assumption that he may not start this year, but will be a major piece moving forward. 

5 minutes ago, btownqb said:

What examples do we have of the bold? 

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic. 

Uhhhh, from what the fans expect:

"we need to shoot more 3's"
"MM needs to play the 4"
"Malik needs to play the 5"
"We need to play 4 in 1 out"
"XJ should start" "XJ should not start" XJ needs to be kicked off the team" lol
"Malik and Sparks should not be on the floor at the same time" 
"Malik and Ware should not spend a majority of the time on the floor together"
"Race isn't a starter"
"Kopps isn't a starter"

....I could go on.