Drroogh Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Montana Hoosier said: I get mad when people say he isn’t a good person after he continually beats us and his current and former players love him. Chances are 99% people on here don’t know him personally, so how can they make the judgement? He gets 5 stars every year, competes for the big ten title every year, and has past players say every year how they love him and loved playing for him. So yeah sounds like he is a terrible guy. Sour grapes, he is a hell of a coach and people like him. People hate lising to him so he is a terrible guy right? And all of Crean's players think he is a saint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Drroogh said: And all of Crean's players think he is a saint! You sure about that? Any quotes to substantiate that claim? Montana can provide quotes, I'm sure, from MSU players who have openly expressed their feelings for Izzo. You think Vonleh feels that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Izzo is not a bad guy, he is a competitor!! And competitor's use every advantage they can to win, that does not make him an Angle!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Hoosier Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Drroogh said: And all of Crean's players think he is a saint! Probably not, but what makes you think Izzo is a bad person, because he beats IU every year? What’s your reasoning, I would love to know why anybody thinks he is a bad guy. Oh let me guess because women are mad, and rightfully so, at a doctor who has nothing to do with Izzo? He must be complicent then since it happened under a MSU doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jerry Lundergaard said: You sure about that? Any quotes to substantiate that claim? Montana can provide quotes, I'm sure, from MSU players who have openly expressed their feelings for Izzo. You think Vonleh feels that way? I got to call BS on that!!!!!! do you think VO or Yogi got anything to say negative about Crean!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Hoosier Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Drroogh said: Izzo is not a bad guy, he is a competitor!! And competitor's use every advantage they can to win, that does not make him an Angle!!! Exactly, and that is why saying bad words about a coach after he put the beat down on you, holds no merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Montana Hoosier said: I get mad when people say he isn’t a good person after he continually beats us and his current and former players love him. Chances are 99% people on here don’t know him personally, so how can they make the judgement? He gets 5 stars every year, competes for the big ten title every year, and has past players say every year how they love him and loved playing for him. So yeah sounds like he is a terrible guy. Sour grapes, he is a hell of a coach and people like him. People hate lising to him so he is a terrible guy right? None of those things make him a saint or a good person. Even being a saint doesn't make one a good person. Being a jackass doesn't even make him a bad person, which is what I called him. I stand by the jackass comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Hoosier Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, KoB2011 said: None of those things make him a saint or a good person. Even being a saint doesn't make one a good person. Being a jackass doesn't even make him a bad person, which is what I called him. I stand by the jackass comment. Good reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Montana Hoosier said: Good reasoning. It actually is good reasoning... Stating a guy is a good guy because he is good at his job it a very specific group of people like him would qualify as poor reasoning, though. So would saying someone is a good person because they had been awarded some sort of title it recognition such as saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Drroogh said: Izzo is not a bad guy, he is a competitor!! And competitor's use every advantage they can to win, that does not make him an Angle!!! I'm going to stand by this comment and have another Beluga before I pass out. Peace out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Drroogh said: I got to call BS on that!!!!!! do you think VO or Yogi got anything to say negative about Crean!!!! Read the quote. He said ALL of Crean's players think he's a saint. One exception negates the statement.. or the BS, as you call it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Jerry Lundergaard said: Read the quote. He said ALL of Crean's players think he's a saint. One exception negates the statement.. or the BS, as you call it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 And I was done for the night.. do you think every MSU player thinks Izzo is a saint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Gonna go with literalness here. Don't think Montana claimed that every MSU player thinks that. But, someone claimed that "all Crean players think he's a saint ". All it takes is one example of someone not thinking Crean is a saint to disprove the statement. Please tell me that your IU education has prepared you to understand this simple concept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Hoosier Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: It actually is good reasoning... Stating a guy is a good guy because he is good at his job it a very specific group of people like him would qualify as poor reasoning, though. So would saying someone is a good person because they had been awarded some sort of title it recognition such as saint. What’s your reasoning for calling him a jackass? At least I can point to people who don’t think he is, you on the other can’t. I don’t know him, either do you so what’s your reasoning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, Montana Hoosier said: I get mad when people say he isn’t a good person after he continually beats us and his current and former players love him. Chances are 99% people on here don’t know him personally, so how can they make the judgement? He gets 5 stars every year, competes for the big ten title every year, and has past players say every year how they love him and loved playing for him. So yeah sounds like he is a terrible guy. Sour grapes, he is a hell of a coach and people like him. People hate lising to him so he is a terrible guy right? This was the original comment!!!! 4 minutes ago, Jerry Lundergaard said: Gonna go with literalness here. Don't think Montana claimed that every MSU player thinks that. But, someone claimed that "all Crean players think he's a saint ". All it takes is one example of someone not thinking Crean is a saint to disprove the statement. Please tell me that your IU education has prepared you to understand this simple concept 30 minutes ago, Montana Hoosier said: "I get mad when people say he isn’t a good person after he continually beats us and his current and former players love him. Chances are 99% people on here don’t know him personally, so how can they make the judgement? He gets 5 stars every year, competes for the big ten title every year, and has past players say every year how they love him and loved playing for him. So yeah sounds like he is a terrible guy. Sour grapes, he is a hell of a coach and people like him. People hate lising to him so he is a terrible guy right?" This was the original comment I took exception with, Izzo is not a saint! I also said that he is not a bad person! and by the way when you attack my intelligence even thought I've had way too much vodka tonight, I have a MENSA number, how bought you?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, Montana Hoosier said: What’s your reasoning for calling him a jackass? At least I can point to people who don’t think he is, you on the other can’t. I don’t know him, either do you so what’s your reasoning? Per my previous posts, he runs up the score, he berates officials more than anyone in the conference and has had some major behavior problems in his program that didn't get handled well a ka Steve Alford. You realize having a group of people that think you aren't a jackass didn't prove anything? Hitler, Stalin, Trump and Bob Knight all have groups of people that will swear to the grave they weren't/aren't jackasses. What exactly do you think that proves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Not sure, but think that this thread has been blurred by vodka. At least on my phone the posts have run together. not going to argue with you anymore. Hope that at your next meeting you are wearing your green light so people can approach you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Well, good job guys, you somehow caused this thread to stroke out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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