IU Scott Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Indy1987 said: What parent would want their kid to attend MSU now? Whoever takes over at Msu needs to flat out clean house. That cloud/doubt will not go away until everyone is gone that knew and did nothing. That disgusting POS Dr. Isn't the only person that should be thrown in jail. Go Hoosiers!!! I work with a father of one of MSU recruit and I am going to ask him his thoughts on this situation on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Former MSU counselor says Mark Dantonio, Tom Izzo, everyone must 'accept individual responsibility' - ESPN https://apple.news/As8F0ESZWSQepLs4kgto6DQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 MSU plays at Maryland today. Maryland fans are going to crush Izzo. I have been to several games at UMD, their fans are crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just watched the report on ESPN. They even have a video of Payne saying Appling kept going after the girl said stop, and no punishment at all. They have a massive problem up there, and I've lost all respect for Izzo. Those coaches need to go as of yesterday, and there needs to be a complete investigation of every one involved in these accusations including police, university, DA, etc. Pathetic. What's that now, 3 schools in the Big Ten with massive sex crime issues? Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, BGleas said: MSU plays at Maryland today. Maryland fans are going to crush Izzo. I have been to several games at UMD, their fans are crazy! Have to agree with you. They wear shirts with dirty words on them... and even start fires after wins. But, I have to admit, they do have some fun : Flash Mob beim College Basketball (Harlem Shake) Maryland Students Flash Mob Part II (2014) Maryland Students Flash Mob III (2015) Heck.... IU can't even get a white out right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, BGleas said: MSU plays at Maryland today. Maryland fans are going to crush Izzo. I have been to several games at UMD, their fans are crazy! Tea-bag Paulus...clap, clap, clap, clap, clap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 47 minutes ago, BGleas said: MSU plays at Maryland today. Maryland fans are going to crush Izzo. I have been to several games at UMD, their fans are crazy! Oh nice. Those fans don't hold back at all. Idk if the players will get rattled but Izzo ain't heard nothing like he's gonna hear today. And he deserves every bit of it. An "Izzo knew..." chant maybe. I wouldn't be surprised if they had posters with the victims names and pictures. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 This is gonna send shocks waves through out the college sports realm. With lots of schools looking in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy River Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 52 minutes ago, CapnRon said: Just watched the report on ESPN. They even have a video of Payne saying Appling kept going after the girl said stop, and no punishment at all. They have a massive problem up there, and I've lost all respect for Izzo. Those coaches need to go as of yesterday, and there needs to be a complete investigation of every one involved in these accusations including police, university, DA, etc. Pathetic. What's that now, 3 schools in the Big Ten with massive sex crime issues? Disgusting. I haven't seen this discussed much, so I will ask. The Payne/Appling incident was reported to the police, who then decided not to pursue . So are people suggesting that A) The East Lansing Police department is involved in the cover-up, or B) was there not enough evidence to make a case? If we believe there wasn't enough evidence, how far can a coach or university go in terms of punishment? I'm curious as to peoples thoughts on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Do we go after Henry if MSU does blow up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Do we go after Henry if MSU does blow up? I work with his father and I was going to ask him his thoughts on this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 20 minutes ago, Muddy River said: I haven't seen this discussed much, so I will ask. The Payne/Appling incident was reported to the police, who then decided not to pursue . So are people suggesting that A) The East Lansing Police department is involved in the cover-up, or B) was there not enough evidence to make a case? If we believe there wasn't enough evidence, how far can a coach or university go in terms of punishment? I'm curious as to peoples thoughts on this. At times.... the local police force will keep things under wraps. For the good of the University. Or if asked to, by the University. I can say this happened with the Indiana State Patrol, in terms of at least one incident with Kevin Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy River Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, milehiiu said: At times.... the local police force will keep things under wraps. For the good of the University. Or if asked to, by the University. I can say this happened with the Indiana State Patrol, in terms of at least one incident with Kevin Wilson. Agreed, however it's a big jump to go from covering up a crime without a specific victim (PI or DUI with no accident) to sexual assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosrnight Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, Muddy River said: I haven't seen this discussed much, so I will ask. The Payne/Appling incident was reported to the police, who then decided not to pursue . So are people suggesting that A) The East Lansing Police department is involved in the cover-up, or B) was there not enough evidence to make a case? If we believe there wasn't enough evidence, how far can a coach or university go in terms of punishment? I'm curious as to peoples thoughts on this. Apparently the victim was interviewed by an assistant DA(who now works in the MSU title IX office) she broke down while answering questions and the asst DA said if you can’t handle me, you’ll never handle court. So the DA didn’t go forward with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 31 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I work with his father and I was going to ask him his thoughts on this situation. Come on, we all know he is too salty to let his son go to IU. Plus Archie didn’t want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Come on, we all know he is too salty to let his son go to IU. Plus Archie didn’t want him. All he said was that after they gained some commitments that Archie did not stay in touch with him. They were told that their scholarship offer was still there but Archie pretty much backed off. He was not salty at all and just being truthful about the perception of today's recruits toward IU. Also I was just going to ask him about MSU and not whether or not they would look at IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 55 minutes ago, Indy1987 said: Oh nice. Those fans don't hold back at all. Idk if the players will get rattled but Izzo ain't heard nothing like he's gonna hear today. And he deserves every bit of it. An "Izzo knew..." chant maybe. I wouldn't be surprised if they had posters with the victims names and pictures. Go Hoosiers!!! “Resign Izzo” is what I would go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Muddy River said: I haven't seen this discussed much, so I will ask. The Payne/Appling incident was reported to the police, who then decided not to pursue . So are people suggesting that A) The East Lansing Police department is involved in the cover-up, or B) was there not enough evidence to make a case? If we believe there wasn't enough evidence, how far can a coach or university go in terms of punishment? I'm curious as to peoples thoughts on this. Read the article mentioned at the beginning of the thread. The police definitely were not involved in any cover-up as they recommended prosecution. They interviewed Payne who said the lady wanted to go, but Appling wouldn't stop. The lady said that the prosecutor said she wouldn't be a good witness, and they wouldn't pursue. There was plenty of evidence especially against Appling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Man, Izzo looked TERRIBLE in the post game presser. He was grilled by an ESPN reporter and looked like a complete jackass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Man, Izzo looked TERRIBLE in the post game presser. He was grilled by an ESPN reporter and looked like a complete jackass. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Link? https://twitter.com/Josh_Stirn/status/957713285360517120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 51 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Man, Izzo looked TERRIBLE in the post game presser. He was grilled by an ESPN reporter and looked like a complete jackass. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 55 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: https://twitter.com/Josh_Stirn/status/957713285360517120 WOW he is really handling this terribly... could not look or sound any more guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: WOW he is really handling this terribly... could not look or sound any more guilty. I think someone - his attorney or the MSU brass - is giving him a script and he's following it. Which I think just makes him look even worse. He's on borrowed time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: I think someone - his attorney or the MSU brass - is giving him a script and he's following it. Which I think just makes him look even worse. He's on borrowed time. If that’s the case, it’s not a very good script. He should at least have some kind of answer for why the manager left the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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