IUFLA Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 11 hours ago, dgambill said: 6th in the B1G would probably closer prediction. I’ll be happy with a top 20 finish. I don’t see us breaking into the top 10. Nice to just see a number by our name. We finish 6th in the Big 10, most, including myself, will consider at least the conference season a failure... Barring injury, that is... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 11 hours ago, dgambill said: 6th in the B1G would probably closer prediction. I’ll be happy with a top 20 finish. I don’t see us breaking into the top 10. Nice to just see a number by our name. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) On 9/16/2022 at 12:14 AM, 5fouls said: Also found it interesting that the Magazine made the following 'Best-Of' picks. All products of Indiana high school basketball. Best High School Senior - Xavier Booker (Indy-Cathedral) Best High School Junior - Flory Bidunga (Kokomo) Best JUCO Player transferring to D1 - Sean East (Romeo's former teammate at New Albany who is headed to Missouri) Sean should've already been in D1... at least i thought so Edited September 18, 2022 by Dawg Bawls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dawg Bawls said: Sean should've already been in D1... at least i thought so He has been at two D1 stops already. Started at UMASS, transferred to Bradley, and then to JUCO. Not really sure how he did at Bradley, but at UMASS he played quite a bit as a freshman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 hours ago, 5fouls said: He has been at two D1 stops already. Started at UMASS, transferred to Bradley, and then to JUCO. Not really sure how he did at Bradley, but at UMASS he played quite a bit as a freshman. Good to hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 3 hours ago, rico said: Shooting is the obvious concern but I'm still bullish on this season. Some people are sour because of last season but what many don't realize is that outside of St. Mary's and UM at home we were in every game. We lost so many close games that we should've won. Now we return basically everyone and add in a couple 5 stars. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 6 hours ago, rico said: I just don’t see this a top 10 team at all. I see us in the 20-25 range. This team still hasn’t really learned how to string wins together for long stretches which is what is required to be top 10. On top of that we have a very challenging non-conference with other top 10 teams that I don’t see us winning so we might be digging out early. Seems once the media pegs you a spot they don’t move you up a whole lot unless you outperform their expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: Shooting is the obvious concern but I'm still bullish on this season. Some people are sour because of last season but what many don't realize is that outside of St. Mary's and UM at home we were in every game. We lost so many close games that we should've won. Now we return basically everyone and add in a couple 5 stars. Winning time is my concern. Learning to finish games… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 hours ago, dgambill said: Winning time is my concern. Learning to finish games… With the youth in today's games, how many current teams have already learned this, or how to string wins together? If anyrhing, our experience should give us a bit of a head start in that department 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: With the youth in today's games, how many current teams have already learned this, or how to string wins together? If anyrhing, our experience should give us a bit of a head start in that department I think those two games in the BTT against UM and UI shows that they have learned how to close out games. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think those two games in the BTT against UM and UI shows that they have learned how to close out games. I agree. If not fully learned, it certainly should be a step towards that direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 3 hours ago, dgambill said: I just don’t see this a top 10 team at all. I see us in the 20-25 range. This team still hasn’t really learned how to string wins together for long stretches which is what is required to be top 10. On top of that we have a very challenging non-conference with other top 10 teams that I don’t see us winning so we might be digging out early. Seems once the media pegs you a spot they don’t move you up a whole lot unless you outperform their expectations. Wait, what? Did I fall asleep and miss the first part of the season? ”This team “ hasn’t played a game yet. How can you say anything about what they have or haven’t learned? Different group, new guys. Brought in some players who are used to winning against high levels of competition. Each season, each team is a whole new deal. Different talent, different team dynamics. Gotta let this team develop their own identity and determine for themselves what they can/can’t accomplish 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said: Wait, what? Did I fall asleep and miss the first part of the season? ”This team “ hasn’t played a game yet. How can you say anything about what they have or haven’t learned? Different group, new guys. Brought in some players who are used to winning against high levels of competition. Each season, each team is a whole new deal. Different talent, different team dynamics. Gotta let this team develop their own identity and determine for themselves what they can/can’t accomplish This is still 80% the same team as last year. Am I saying we won’t be better…heck no. We barely squeaked in last year and I’m talking about a top 25 team this year. That said let’s not act like this is a vastly different group of players. We have 1 freshman that might play significant minutes for us and let’s not act like we have any clue he will fair any better than the last 5 star we brought in last year. I hope he is but this is a veteran team…but also a team that has struggled to win consistently and focus and knuckle down. Team that gave up big leads and lost some games we had no business losing. Have they grown up…I hope but the one thing that is the hardest to teach is that little difference…that little extra resolve that is the difference in losing and winning. Also…we still don’t have any shooting on this roster. We will again be in the bottom of the big ten in 3pt shooting…and it’s almost impossible to be a top 10 team (which is the only point I made) without legit shooters to stretch the floor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 hours ago, bluegrassIU said: With the youth in today's games, how many current teams have already learned this, or how to string wins together? If anyrhing, our experience should give us a bit of a head start in that department Maybe…it certainly was a step in the right direction…but man…the things that teams do to close out opponents. Hit free throws, value possessions, and knock down shots…those are still our weak spots. I did say we should be a top 25 team….I don’t know what is so controversial in saying we won’t be a top 10 team…because mainly this team doesn’t consistently shoot the ball well. We still have no threat from 3…top 10 teams are pretty elite…I just don’t see that quality on this team. But I do think we will be in the top 3 of the league and stick around the 17-25 range all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, dgambill said: This is still 80% the same team as last year. Am I saying we won’t be better…heck no. We barely squeaked in last year and I’m talking about a top 25 team this year. That said let’s not act like this is a vastly different group of players. We have 1 freshman that might play significant minutes for us and let’s not act like we have any clue he will fair any better than the last 5 star we brought in last year. I hope he is but this is a veteran team…but also a team that has struggled to win consistently and focus and knuckle down. Team that gave up big leads and lost some games we had no business losing. Have they grown up…I hope but the one thing that is the hardest to teach is that little difference…that little extra resolve that is the difference in losing and winning. Also…we still don’t have any shooting on this roster. We will again be in the bottom of the big ten in 3pt shooting…and it’s almost impossible to be a top 10 team (which is the only point I made) without legit shooters to stretch the floor. Are you trying to suck all the air out of my balloon? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 Just now, rico said: Are you trying to suck all the air out of my balloon? No no…I just think this #6 talk is a bit foolish. Why would you be sad we will likely be a top 20 team after the last decade we have had?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 Just now, dgambill said: No no…I just think this #6 talk is a bit foolish. Why would you be sad we will likely be a top 20 team after the last decade we have had?? Sweet Sixteen or bust baby! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, rico said: Sweet Sixteen or bust baby! I think that is very reasonable. If we were to be a top #6 team we likely would be a 2 seed and that’s elite eight/final four talk honestly…does anyone here think that is the quality of team we have? If yes…I need some of what your drinking…especially after the past couple weeks of football between colts and Hoosiers lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: I think those two games in the BTT against UM and UI shows that they have learned how to close out games. 🤷♂️ For everyone close win we have two close/given up lead losses. OSU/Wisconsin 2x/Rutgers/Penn st/Iowa….I want to believe they’ve turned the corner…but I guess we will just have to see….but when you are a top 6 team you are likely winning your conference and maybe dropping 5-6 games all year…that seems like a big ask given our schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, dgambill said: 🤷♂️ For everyone close win we have two close/given up lead losses. OSU/Wisconsin 2x/Rutgers/Penn st/Iowa….I want to believe they’ve turned the corner…but I guess we will just have to see….but when you are a top 6 team you are likely winning your conference and maybe dropping 5-6 games all year…that seems like a big ask given our schedule. I don't think we are a top 6 team in the country but I do think we are the best team in the big ten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, dgambill said: 🤷♂️ For everyone close win we have two close/given up lead losses. OSU/Wisconsin 2x/Rutgers/Penn st/Iowa….I want to believe they’ve turned the corner…but I guess we will just have to see….but when you are a top 6 team you are likely winning your conference and maybe dropping 5-6 games all year…that seems like a big ask given our schedule. Last year there were only two teams that ended the season with less than 6 losses and neither made the Final Four. In the last ranking of the season, teams 1-4 lost 6,10,7,and 8 games respectively. Certainly this team has the capability to finish with those kinds of records 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 4 hours ago, dgambill said: Maybe…it certainly was a step in the right direction…but man…the things that teams do to close out opponents. Hit free throws, value possessions, and knock down shots…those are still our weak spots. I did say we should be a top 25 team….I don’t know what is so controversial in saying we won’t be a top 10 team…because mainly this team doesn’t consistently shoot the ball well. We still have no threat from 3…top 10 teams are pretty elite…I just don’t see that quality on this team. But I do think we will be in the top 3 of the league and stick around the 17-25 range all season. Sixth in the B1G? You’ve always been a skeptic but I hope you’re really an IU fan. That’s out there barring injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 A few things for my hopes this upcoming year: - Finish in top 20 in rankings, anything less IMO(Barring any injuries) would be a let down - top 2 finisher in Big Ten regular season - no worst than 2nd in the Big Ten Tourney - at a minimum a sweet 16 appearance 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 I think people put to much importance on the returning players. How does a team that limped into the tournament all of a sudden become a top team? It didn’t work for Cody and Vic? That being said, with some of the scuttle butt I’m thinking we may see a different team on the floor. Maybe not at first but when it counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 56 minutes ago, Drroogh said: I think people put to much importance on the returning players. How so? When you have scoring returning from the previous year it is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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