btownqb Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, IUJoe said: Because 2nd and 15 and 3rd and 19 are usually passing situations. Or... being down 3TDs in the 2nd half 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, IUJoe said: Because 2nd and 15 and 3rd and 19 are usually passing situations. Sad but true. Still made me laugh now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 I still laugh when I think that Indiana fans wanted Penix benched. Dudes coming back for another year. Smh, we treat our own, horribly, regularly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: I still laugh when I think that Indiana fans wanted Penix benched. Dudes coming back for another year. Smh, we treat our own, horribly, regularly. Iirc it was more about him not being physically ready after injury. Among other factors in play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Iirc it was more about him not being physically ready after injury. Among other factors in play. And they were wrong about that. He was the best QB on the roster by a million. He was rusty, sure, but he was the best player at that position, on our roster. It's irrelevant now, but god it was annoying to read at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, btownqb said: I still laugh when I think that Indiana fans wanted Penix benched. Dudes coming back for another year. Smh, we treat our own, horribly, regularly. Going to Washington was good for Michael Penix. Mike for the Heisman in '23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Graham Mertz in the portal. Bloomington bound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, rico said: Going to Washington was good for Michael Penix. Mike for the Heisman in '23. He shouldn't have been let out of Indiana. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, rico said: Graham Mertz in the portal. Bloomington bound? I've honestly not watched him much, can he run, at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, btownqb said: I've honestly not watched him much, can he run, at all? That would be a no... Rushing & Receiving Rushing Receiving Scrimmage Year School Conf Class Pos G Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD Career Wisconsin 125 -21 -0.2 8 0 0 0 125 -21 -0.2 8 *2019 Wisconsin Big Ten FR QB 2 2 6 3.0 0 0 0 0 2 6 3.0 0 *2020 Wisconsin Big Ten FR QB 7 36 38 1.1 2 0 0 0 36 38 1.1 2 *2021 Wisconsin Big Ten SO QB 13 37 -25 -0.7 4 0 0 0 37 -25 -0.7 4 2022 Wisconsin Big Ten JR QB 12 50 -40 -0.8 2 0 0 0 50 -40 -0.8 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: That would be a no... Rushing & Receiving Rushing Receiving Scrimmage Year School Conf Class Pos G Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD Career Wisconsin 125 -21 -0.2 8 0 0 0 125 -21 -0.2 8 *2019 Wisconsin Big Ten FR QB 2 2 6 3.0 0 0 0 0 2 6 3.0 0 *2020 Wisconsin Big Ten FR QB 7 36 38 1.1 2 0 0 0 36 38 1.1 2 *2021 Wisconsin Big Ten SO QB 13 37 -25 -0.7 4 0 0 0 37 -25 -0.7 4 2022 Wisconsin Big Ten JR QB 12 50 -40 -0.8 2 0 0 0 50 -40 -0.8 2 meh.. that doesn't tell me everything. I had already seen those stats when I asked the question. Wisconsin runs zero with their QB. He probably isn't a runner, just mentioning those stats don't tell me if he has feet to defend himself from a pass rush. College stats still include sacks in a QBs rushing yards, which is stupid. It's a pass play, not a run play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, btownqb said: meh.. that doesn't tell me everything. I had already seen those stats when I asked the question. Wisconsin runs zero with their QB. He probably isn't a runner, just mentioning those stats don't tell me if he has feet to defend himself from a pass rush. College stats still include sacks in a QBs rushing yards, which is stupid. It's a pass play, not a run play. OK then... Graham Mertz 2023 NFL Draft Scouting Report Pros: Graham Mertz has an NFL build and measurements to fit the pocket-passer prototype. He can operate an offense with a solid level of effectiveness. He presents as a game manager that finds success in the short, quick passing game. Mertz throws with solid zip/velocity along with good touch when needed. He is a smart and anticipatory deep ball passer. There are some flashes high-end accuracy and big throws on tape but only flashes. Cons: Graham Mertz has not displayed the ability to put the passing game for the Badgers on his shoulders. From a physical traits and tools standpoint, he is limited. As I alluded to earlier, Mertz is a pocket passer that lacks above-average mobility as a rushing threat. The inability to create or extend plays with his legs limits his overall effectiveness as an NFL prospect. His game fits a run-first/heavy offense that incorporates quick passes and downfield shots off play-action. At this moment, his trajectory is pointed toward an NFL backup rather than a starter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, 13th&Jackson said: OK then... Graham Mertz 2023 NFL Draft Scouting Report Pros: Graham Mertz has an NFL build and measurements to fit the pocket-passer prototype. He can operate an offense with a solid level of effectiveness. He presents as a game manager that finds success in the short, quick passing game. Mertz throws with solid zip/velocity along with good touch when needed. He is a smart and anticipatory deep ball passer. There are some flashes high-end accuracy and big throws on tape but only flashes. Cons: Graham Mertz has not displayed the ability to put the passing game for the Badgers on his shoulders. From a physical traits and tools standpoint, he is limited. As I alluded to earlier, Mertz is a pocket passer that lacks above-average mobility as a rushing threat. The inability to create or extend plays with his legs limits his overall effectiveness as an NFL prospect. His game fits a run-first/heavy offense that incorporates quick passes and downfield shots off play-action. At this moment, his trajectory is pointed toward an NFL backup rather than a starter. probably not our guy then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, btownqb said: 1 minute ago, btownqb said: probably not our guy then But the new OL coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, btownqb said: probably not our guy then Not to mention he's regressed as a passer. Below 60% the past two years and is prone to INTs From CBS Sports: Mertz's market is hard to gauge after such a high-profile regression. Minnesota recruited Mertz hard out of high school, and the Gophers could use a replacement for Tanner Morgan. Aidan O'Connell is moving on after six years at Purdue, and Mertz could benefit from a major system change. He should have countless opportunities at the Group of Five level as a high-upside reclamation project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, 13th&Jackson said: Not to mention he's regressed as a passer. Below 60% the past two years and is prone to INTs From CBS Sports: Mertz's market is hard to gauge after such a high-profile regression. Minnesota recruited Mertz hard out of high school, and the Gophers could use a replacement for Tanner Morgan. Aidan O'Connell is moving on after six years at Purdue, and Mertz could benefit from a major system change. He should have countless opportunities at the Group of Five level as a high-upside reclamation project. I think that can be fixed. UWs offense is horrible for QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: OK then... Graham Mertz 2023 NFL Draft Scouting Report Pros: Graham Mertz has an NFL build and measurements to fit the pocket-passer prototype. He can operate an offense with a solid level of effectiveness. He presents as a game manager that finds success in the short, quick passing game. Mertz throws with solid zip/velocity along with good touch when needed. He is a smart and anticipatory deep ball passer. There are some flashes high-end accuracy and big throws on tape but only flashes. Cons: Graham Mertz has not displayed the ability to put the passing game for the Badgers on his shoulders. From a physical traits and tools standpoint, he is limited. As I alluded to earlier, Mertz is a pocket passer that lacks above-average mobility as a rushing threat. The inability to create or extend plays with his legs limits his overall effectiveness as an NFL prospect. His game fits a run-first/heavy offense that incorporates quick passes and downfield shots off play-action. At this moment, his trajectory is pointed toward an NFL backup rather than a starter. I need something more specific. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyeCowbell Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Are we sure this topic's title is accurate? Is IUFB going 'forward'? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, btownqb said: He shouldn't have been let out of Indiana. You can’t keep someone at IU if they don’t want to be here. He could have played more in 2021 but “injury” kept him off the field. I don’t blame him in the sense that the Oline over the last few years wasn’t gonna help keep him injury free. I would say he made the right choice for himself based on the results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, iuthruandthru said: You can’t keep someone at IU if they don’t want to be here. He could have played more in 2021 but “injury” kept him off the field. I don’t blame him in the sense that the Oline over the last few years wasn’t gonna help keep him injury free. I would say he made the right choice for himself based on the results. But I do question his decision making. Why is he coming back for another year at UW? That makes no sense to me, at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 58 minutes ago, rico said: Graham Mertz in the portal. Bloomington bound? If he can't run, isn't an accurate passer and is injury prone he would be a perfect fit for Indiana. You could bring in the Pope and it wouldn't make any improvement under Allen and the Hoosiers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Bradley Jennings declared for the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said: But I do question his decision making. Why is he coming back for another year at UW? That makes no sense to me, at all. I can’t argue with that. What was his draft stock looking like? Maybe he is being told a second year of putting up the same stats shows more consistency and increases his draft stock to a level that’s worth coming back? Also maybe with NIL it makes sense for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Purdue Football board is having a good time with IU football and it's recent transfers entering the portal right now..... Pretty sad how things have changed in just two years....... Here's to hoping for some light at the end of the the tunnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, iuthruandthru said: I can’t argue with that. What was his draft stock looking like? Maybe he is being told a second year of putting up the same stats shows more consistency and increases his draft stock to a level that’s worth coming back? Also maybe with NIL it makes sense for him. He's trending up and I would bet he'd go higher than you'd think. I just think with his injury history, this is a pretty big gamble. Edited December 6, 2022 by OGIUAndy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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