2014Hoosier Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Dude also said we have Cooper Kupp on the team so… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Question: (Purely hypothetically..really) If Leal or Logan were to leave the team, do they retain their scholarship? (I think the answer is yes, but not sure) Now before you go batsh!t on my question, it's not a proposal, it's just a question. I want Leal here. I'd like for him to play more, but not my call. But if we need to get a sharp shooter added, it seems to me this is the obvious way to get it. Personally I think Gunn & Leal both should share some minutes to get a heat check if nothing else. Both play OK defense, and would improve even more with a little experience. But again, not my call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, DWB said: Question: (Purely hypothetically..really) If Leal or Logan were to leave the team, do they retain their scholarship? (I think the answer is yes, but not sure) If they are cut from the team and remain students at IU, they keep their scholarship. With the transfer portal, this is hard to imagine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 I'll repeat something I've said before. You cant play 13. If roster decisions are required to help land an important transfer or recruit, they should be based on multiple factors, not just 'who is the 13th man'. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, DWB said: Question: (Purely hypothetically..really) If Leal or Logan were to leave the team, do they retain their scholarship? (I think the answer is yes, but not sure) Now before you go batsh!t on my question, it's not a proposal, it's just a question. I want Leal here. I'd like for him to play more, but not my call. But if we need to get a sharp shooter added, it seems to me this is the obvious way to get it. Personally I think Gunn & Leal both should share some minutes to get a heat check if nothing else. Both play OK defense, and would improve even more with a little experience. But again, not my call. How did Leal get the reputation of being a pure shooter because his stats in high school doesn't show that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I'll repeat something I've said before. You cant play 13. If roster decisions are required to help land an important transfer or recruit, they should be based on multiple factors, not just 'who is the 13th man'. Totally agree because if you have 13 4 and 5 star players you will have 4 or 5 very unhappy players. That is why a lot of coaches don't use all 13 scholarships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Totally agree because if you have 13 4 and 5 star players you will have 4 or 5 very unhappy players. That is why a lot of coaches don't use all 13 scholarships You use scholarships 11 to 13 on guys you think you can develop. They have to be bought in on that though and if that is your plan you have to stick with it. Leal seems to be perfectly fine with that role. He honestly isn't the guy you look to replace, it is guys further up the roster who aren't performing like you thought they would. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison22 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 35 minutes ago, 5fouls said: 'who is the 13th man'. Under-rated movie. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 44 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I'll repeat something I've said before. You cant play 13. If roster decisions are required to help land an important transfer or recruit, they should be based on multiple factors, not just 'who is the 13th man'. Totally agree, but Leal & LD aren't getting any meaningful minutes. When you've got Gunn, Banks playing above them, it's unlikely Leal will see the floor unless it's mop up time. Even if there are injuries, other guys will likely play before Anthony. (breaks my heart BTW) Leal is the best team mate in the world. Not only on the court, but off, and probably in the locker room as well. He is good for morale which is important. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Madison22 said: Under-rated movie. I missed the first 12 or is the dirty dozen part of the series? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 I am thinking about breaking out my old avatar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, rico said: I am thinking about breaking out my old avatar. That picture was taken millions of hair follicles ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 18 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said: I used to be opposed to “Creaning”, but the world has changed. With the transfer portal, players are only committed to the program on a year to year basis, so it should apply in reverse. Absolutely. The big argument before was that players were hamstrung from moving around. Take that argument away, and there's no reason to keep kids that underperform. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 47 minutes ago, 5fouls said: That picture was taken millions of hair follicles ago. This one better represents Dan's personality and intelligence. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: This one better represents Dan's personality and intelligence. Poor Jason. Wonder if he threw that tie out walking out of the arena or just had it dry cleaned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, Reacher said: Poor Jason. Wonder if he threw that tie out walking out of the arena or just had it dry cleaned? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 5:37 PM, 13th&Jackson said: I used to be opposed to “Creaning”, but the world has changed. With the transfer portal, players are only committed to the program on a year to year basis, so it should apply in reverse. I used to not believe in cutting players you recruited. Since this Portal thing where you red shirt them build them up, then they play one year. Maybe it doesn’t go quite as good as they hoped they can leave an play elsewhere right away. Then why be loyal to them. If they don’t pan out as the team hoped, why not send them to the portal and bring in someone else. There’s nothing that stops a team from doing that now except would that hurt you recruiting. Unless maybe you tell them hey you come in if your unhappy are we’re unhappy with you. We will help you in the portal found the right school for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 hours ago, OLDIUFAN said: I used to not believe in cutting players you recruited. Since this Portal thing where you red shirt them build them up, then they play one year. Maybe it doesn’t go quite as good as they hoped they can leave an play elsewhere right away. Then why be loyal to them. If they don’t pan out as the team hoped, why not send them to the portal and bring in someone else. There’s nothing that stops a team from doing that now except would that hurt you recruiting. Unless maybe you tell them hey you come in if your unhappy are we’re unhappy with you. We will help you in the portal found the right school for you. I definitely see your point. I also admire loyalty. Probably best determined on a case by case basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 I was never opposed to the ridiculous term "creaning" and it was consistently pumped as an issue, that wasn't an issue. Coaches have every right to dump kids if they aren't up to snuff. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, btownqb said: I was never opposed to the ridiculous term "creaning" and it was consistently pumped as an issue, that wasn't an issue. Coaches have every right to dump kids if they aren't up to snuff. I think there were maybe 1 or 2 Crean-ings that I thought were an issue. The Ron Patterson one was pretty crappy IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: I think there were maybe 1 or 2 Crean-ings that I thought were an issue. The Ron Patterson one was pretty crappy IMO. And we were a #1 seed that March! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyeCowbell Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 I'm not the first person to say this, but I firmly believe in transparency and being upfront from the start. If the player knows what he/she is getting into from the jump, then there is no scrambling or mistrust later. Many times in the recruitment phase a player is lead to believe they will get something that ultimately might not be the case. As a coach, why would you want to paint yourself into a corner? Let everyone know that you have to earn your spot, and so long as you adhere to the contract*, you are ok. *not actual, monetary contract; but rather the agreement between player and coach/program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 12/5/2022 at 8:34 AM, IU Scott said: How did Leal get the reputation of being a pure shooter because his stats in high school doesn't show that. Read it again. He wasn't calling Leal a sharp shooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 The discussion has moved on, but this Tweet is relevant to the title, at least: https://twitter.com/GreggDoyelStar/status/1600955215980761088 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Maedhros said: The discussion has moved on, but this Tweet is relevant to the title, at least: https://twitter.com/GreggDoyelStar/status/1600955215980761088 Hate Greg Doyle Wonder if DD talked to much politics today about Brittany Griner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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