milehiiu Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Cody Zeller for Tom Crean OR Romeo Langford for Archie Miller ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephul Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Cody Zeller for Tom Crean OR Romeo Langford for Archie Miller ? Zeller for Crean, strictly due to how many years Crean was at the helm already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Given how far we were down. Cody. Changed our team day 1. Romeo is special and no doubt it's very very important but since IU decided to give it's self the death penalty for a couple of parking tickets....Cody is my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Chicken or egg...?....id say Zeller...without him...we'd still be losing to the Aces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 22 for the 2nd straight night made sure to sign autographs and take pics for EVERY FAN waiting.. was there 2 hours after game concluded Though my son got tired of me talking about Cody, before he committed..... I don't think there was this much IU fan reaction to Cody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLHoosier Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 I will go with Romeo. Even when Crean got Zeller, recruiting kind of fell back off in terms of highly ranked kids, with the exception of “the movement”, and we all saw how good that class panned out. I think Romeo could really spring board Archie/IU to the forefront of locking the state down and gaining traction with other highly touted kids. He’s already proven he can get good players to commit (see incoming class), I just think Romeo could help him pull in the elite talent though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoHoosier Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 This is almost an apples to oranges topic. Without Cody, CTC would not have had nearly the success he had at IU. In 3 to 5 years, it will be easier to say which player for which coach was more critical. Do we make an elite 8 run or better if Romeo selects IU? Thinking the question is regarding where Romeo is at in his recruitment vs the time just before Cody committed. Its more apples to apples. Cody may have the edge in that I believe the class coming in with the players in place, future recruits may not have as large of an individual impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstall76 Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Zeller, it allowed CTC to keep his job, no Zeller=no Yogi=no job for CTC. It is too early to say if Romeo will be this important, but I really don't think he will be in terms of job security for CAM. Now I think Romeo immediately makes us better than any team Zeller was on simply because CTC never had that type of impact player at his disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 my vote goes to...Zeller for Crean. Crean needed Zeller's talent to start having successful seasons. I'm not sure what would happen if he didn't land Zeller. On the contrary, 5-star talent for Miller would more likely be an icing on the cake. Miller can still have successful seasons without 5-star talents, but having top talents can help him get over the hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, StLHoosier said: I will go with Romeo. Even when Crean got Zeller, recruiting kind of fell back off in terms of highly ranked kids, with the exception of “the movement”, and we all saw how good that class panned out. I think Romeo could really spring board Archie/IU to the forefront of locking the state down and gaining traction with other highly touted kids. He’s already proven he can get good players to commit (see incoming class), I just think Romeo could help him pull in the elite talent though. Hmm, Cody started a run of getting a McD AA every year for 5 straight years. After the Movement the 13 class was really good, 14 brought in Blackmon and Johnson and 15 may sneakily be one of the best classes in the history of IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLHoosier Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Hmm, Cody started a run of getting a McD AA every year for 5 straight years. After the Movement the 13 class was really good, 14 brought in Blackmon and Johnson and 15 may sneakily be one of the best classes in the history of IU. One McD’s is fine, but typically the classes had one good recruit and the others were pretty average. If the classes were that good after Zeller left, we would’ve made deeper tournament runs aye? Heck, last year even with Bryant, Blackmon and Morgan we didn’t even make the tourney. I guess I look at it as overall success (tournament wins). I guess I see Romeo leading to more success than we saw Crean ever have (excluding B10 reg season champs). The coach may have something to do with that too though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, StLHoosier said: One McD’s is fine, but typically the classes had one good recruit and the others were pretty average. If the classes were that good after Zeller left, we would’ve made deeper tournament runs aye? Heck, last year even with Bryant, Blackmon and Morgan we didn’t even make the tourney. I guess I look at it as overall success (tournament wins). I guess I see Romeo leading to more success than we saw Crean ever have (excluding B10 reg season champs). The coach may have something to do with that too though I think the issue was the coaching, not a lack of talented players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Bracy Wright for Mike Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Bracy Wright for Mike Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Crazy how similar these two recruits are when you compare what they could mean for IU. Mile I believe there is more hype around Romeo simply because he's a fair amount better than Cody was as a SR.. plus.. the possibility of him breaking Bailey's record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Cody. Romeo would be a huge step for CAM, but we'll be okay and show progress without him. There will be more coming Archie's way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 6 hours ago, btownqb said: Crazy how similar these two recruits are when you compare what they could mean for IU. Mile I believe there is more hype around Romeo simply because he's a fair amount better than Cody was as a SR.. plus.. the possibility of him breaking Bailey's record. The thing is without Cody Crean is fired after year 3 or 4 at the latest and IU and coach Stevens might today be sitting on top of the college basketball world. You could argue that Cody's commitment was AJ Moye's block all over again. A curse in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Just now, dbmhoosier said: The thing is without Cody Crean is fired after year 3 or 4 at the latest and IU and coach Stevens might today be sitting on top of the college basketball world. You could argue that Cody's commitment was AJ Moye's block all over again. A curse in disguise. No, it wasn't. I loved watching him at IU.. I loved watching that team his SO year. I am a CTC fan. Brad Stevens is in the NBA coaching THE BOSTON CELTICS.. which is a 1000x better job than IU or any college job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 28 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: The thing is without Cody Crean is fired after year 3 or 4 at the latest and IU and coach Stevens might today be sitting on top of the college basketball world. You could argue that Cody's commitment was AJ Moye's block all over again. A curse in disguise. That line of thinking reminds me of people that say I don't want to have kids because of the potential of pain and loss. As a fan how could anyone not enjoy having Cody a part of their program. Regardless of the overall outcome. If we are playing the what if. Maybe without Cody Vic never becomes the player he is and now he uses struggling musician trying to make it big. All Pacer fans say thank you Cody for choosing IU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, btownqb said: No, it wasn't. I loved watching him at IU.. I loved watching that team his SO year. I am a CTC fan. Brad Stevens is in the NBA coaching THE BOSTON CELTICS.. which is a 1000x better job than IU or any college job. He wasn't the coach of the Celtics then. We'll never know what would've happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 At an equal point in their recruitment I would say Cody was more important. Same as others have said, it was year 3 for Crean and he needed a big recruit, and for Archie it’s his first real class and there will be others. Clearly though the answer changes with new info. If Langford comes to IU and the team goes to a Final Four or even more, then the answer changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: He wasn't the coach of the Celtics then. We'll never know what would've happened. I don't really care about "would'ves" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 5 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: The thing is without Cody Crean is fired after year 3 or 4 at the latest and IU and coach Stevens might today be sitting on top of the college basketball world. You could argue that Cody's commitment was AJ Moye's block all over again. A curse in disguise. With all due respect...my coach is on the floor. Brad Stevens is dead to me. I wish him well, but I have no interest in discussing what might have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Romeo, cause I think he's better than Zeller...Also, we now have a coach that can utilize talent and win National Title (something Crean couldn't do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosiertildeath Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 I am one Hoosier Fan who is ELATED that IU did not hire that GEEKY looking Bwad Stevens !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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