bronkonagurski Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 (edited) The Michigan Wolverines (5-4, 3-3) visit Bloomington to face the 8th ranked Indiana Hoosiers (9-0, 6-0) for a 3:30pm ET kickoff on Saturday, November 9th on CBS. Indiana will enter the game as a heavy favorite. Michigan leads the all-time series 62-10. The Wolverines have won the last 3 matchups, including a 52-7 victory in Ann Arbor on 10/14/2023. Indiana's last victory in the series was 38-21 in Bloomington on 11/7/2020. I expect IU to take Michigan behind the woodshed and exact payback for last season's defeat, and a 4th quarter Tayven Jackson TD pass while leading by 30+ points would be a nice coup de gras to finish the afternoon. 💪😎🤘 Edited November 4 by bronkonagurski 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 (edited) We get to deal with the 2 most entitled, obnoxious, football fan bases in the Big 10 in the next 3 weeks... I'd expect some visitors... It ain't the Big 2 and the Little 8 any more, boys... Edited November 3 by IUFLA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 Michigan Forum Thread on the IU game...Seems most of them aren't holding out much hope... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 29 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Michigan Forum Thread on the IU game...Seems most of them aren't holding out much hope... This was my favorite- 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: Michigan Forum Thread on the IU game...Seems most of them aren't holding out much hope... It's getting annoying seeing complaints about the schedule being weak. They forget all these teams have an L on their schedule by the IU game showing they got the snot beat out of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 LSAClassOf2000 November 3rd, 2024 at 7:13 AM ^ Is 3:30 PM on CBS the "Watch Michigan get pantsed" slot now? Joined: 01/07/2011 MGoPoints: 133421 Log in or register to post comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 MgoHillbilly November 3rd, 2024 at 8:08 AM ^ Sorry CBS, I've emotionally checked out on Michigan football this year. It's like watching a bunch of residents perform surgery on a loved one. I'd rather just read the autopsy report. Joined: 01/04/2017 MGoPoints: 30812 Log in or register to post comments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier82 Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 3 hours ago, IUFLA said: We get to deal with the 2 most entitled, obnoxious, football fan bases in the Big 10 in the next 3 weeks... I'd expect some visitors... It ain't the Big 2 and the Little 8 any more, boys... You’d be well within your rights to include Purdue there and go 3 for 3. There’s no fan base on the planet that over values their own program like Purdue fans do 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 15 minutes ago, Hoosier82 said: You’d be well within your rights to include Purdue there and go 3 for 3. There’s no fan base on the planet that over values their own program like Purdue fans do 🤣🤣🤣 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 1-0 Michigan week. Full focus 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 Another 2 score victory on the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: Another 2 score victory on the way. Oregon beat them by 21 so I'd like 21+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 SP+ gives us a 78% chance of victory, picking a spread of 30-18. It would be the closest any team has been to us all year. Of course, Indiana has beaten the SP+ spread in all nine games so far, so the system is still playing catch-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kdug Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 12 minutes ago, Maedhros said: SP+ gives us a 78% chance of victory, picking a spread of 30-18. It would be the closest any team has been to us all year. Of course, Indiana has beaten the SP+ spread in all nine games so far, so the system is still playing catch-up. The only game this year that the SP+ line for an IU game has been within 5 points of the eventual spread was vs Washington, which obviously had a lot to do with Rourke being out. The other games have underestimated the final spread by an average of 19.9 points. The opening Vegas lines have been off by a similar amount. Eventually you’d think the lines would catch up, but Nebraska and MSU were two of the biggest misses, so it’s not like they’ve been getting more accurate lately. It honestly feels like the lines are 2-3 weeks behind where the team is at, and this team seems to be getting better each week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 31 minutes ago, Kdug said: The only game this year that the SP+ line for an IU game has been within 5 points of the eventual spread was vs Washington, which obviously had a lot to do with Rourke being out. The other games have underestimated the final spread by an average of 19.9 points. The opening Vegas lines have been off by a similar amount. Eventually you’d think the lines would catch up, but Nebraska and MSU were two of the biggest misses, so it’s not like they’ve been getting more accurate lately. It honestly feels like the lines are 2-3 weeks behind where the team is at, and this team seems to be getting better each week. Yeah, typically Vegas tries to get even bets on both sides, but I have to believe that bets have been heavy for IU in recent games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, Maedhros said: SP+ gives us a 78% chance of victory, picking a spread of 30-18. It would be the closest any team has been to us all year. Of course, Indiana has beaten the SP+ spread in all nine games so far, so the system is still playing catch-up. That seems quite light. They have some high end talent at some spots but some critical weaknesses too. If we just do our thing, you’d think they have no shot. They only beat MSU by a TD at home and we annihilated them. They literally lost to Washington and we drilled them with a backup who tossed for 120 yards. Etc Edited November 4 by BobSaccamanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobSaccamanno Posted November 4 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 4 (edited) Ok first of all, I love our “‘mid major talent.” Even IU fans were skeptical. I have always backed this idea. These are like mid-major all stars. Not run of the mill guys. Cignetti said in December he focuses on production over potential. He said it first then executed on it. Look at all these guys who are wired right. I wish we looked at this more in basketball too. It’s an inefficiency in the marketplace. Second, we come at you in waves at the skill positions. Cignetti has four running backs and countless receivers and they all get touches. Nobody is like “wah wah i don’t get enough touches.” If they were, they are gone regardless of pedigree and NIL money. It’s all about merit and production. Smart guys who see the big picture understand there are opportunities for everyone to show their skill set. Third, player development and personnel acquisition are first rate. They identify the right kind of guys in terms of makeup. They coach them up and the players respond. They are sound, smart, do the right things and are tough. It’s not an accident. This all comes back to beingprocess oriented. In terms of development, look at how sound everyone is. Heck a guy like Magnum Farrar switched positions and they’ve got him solid. Look at the offensive line with Drew Evans and Bray Lynch. Evans was a walkon at Wisconsin. Bostad knows what he wants in players in terms of what he can develop and it does nothing but work. You can see there is a heavy emphasis on quickness and not necessarily long speed. Almost every receiver and back are in this category. Sure you may have gotten a guy caught from behind. Who cares? Receivers get open. Backs are shifty and find the right gaps. We get chunk yardage that way. In terms of personnel, Cignetti is a realist. As he brought in his first wave, he saw where he needed fortifications and he never let up until he kept adding what he felt like he needed. Instead of living with what we had, he was relentless in landing the likes of CJ West and Ponds. Based on what he said, I think he would have still liked some more speed at receiver and more depth overall. My guess: Second offseason, that gets addressed. This is all incredible insight. Process oriented starting with the coach. I watch coaches press conferences year round and everything I said is coming from things the coaches talk about regularly. IU may not have a rich history with football. But I tell you what we do have access to: we had one of the best coaches in any sport, any level running our basketball program. We can recognize brilliance in running a program. We know damn well what we are looking at right now in football. I am guessing Cignetti would agree with 99% of my post because it comes from studying him since he got here. (Sorry for the long post but these are a hodge podge of ideas I haven’t had a chance to put together. I don’t mean to be self indulgent.) Edited November 4 by BobSaccamanno 18 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 Michigan beat Indiana by 45 just last year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 9 hours ago, BobSaccamanno said: Ok first of all, I love our “‘mid major talent.” Even IU fans were skeptical. I have always backed this idea. These are like mid-major all stars. Not run of the mill guys. Cignetti said in December he focuses on production over potential. He said it first then executed on it. Look at all these guys who are wired right. I wish we looked at this more in basketball too. It’s an inefficiency in the marketplace. Second, we come at you in waves at the skill positions. Cignetti has four running backs and countless receivers and they all get touches. Nobody is like “wah wah i don’t get enough touches.” If they were, they are gone regardless of pedigree and NIL money. It’s all about merit and production. Smart guys who see the big picture understand there are opportunities for everyone to show their skill set. Third, player development and personnel acquisition are first rate. They identify the right kind of guys in terms of makeup. They coach them up and the players respond. They are sound, smart, do the right things and are tough. It’s not an accident. This all comes back to beingprocess oriented. In terms of development, look at how sound everyone is. Heck a guy like Magnum Farrar switched positions and they’ve got him solid. Look at the offensive line with Drew Evans and Bray Lynch. Evans was a walkon at Wisconsin. Bostad knows what he wants in players in terms of what he can develop and it does nothing but work. You can see there is a heavy emphasis on quickness and not necessarily long speed. Almost every receiver and back are in this category. Sure you may have gotten a guy caught from behind. Who cares? Receivers get open. Backs are shifty and find the right gaps. We get chunk yardage that way. In terms of personnel, Cignetti is a realist. As he brought in his first wave, he saw where he needed fortifications and he never let up until he kept adding what he felt like he needed. Instead of living with what we had, he was relentless in landing the likes of CJ West and Ponds. Based on what he said, I think he would have still liked some more speed at receiver and more depth overall. My guess: Second offseason, that gets addressed. This is all incredible insight. Process oriented starting with the coach. I watch coaches press conferences year round and everything I said is coming from things the coaches talk about regularly. IU may not have a rich history with football. But I tell you what we do have access to: we had one of the best coaches in any sport, any level running our basketball program. We can recognize brilliance in running a program. We know damn well what we are looking at right now in football. I am guessing Cignetti would agree with 99% of my post because it comes from studying him since he got here. (Sorry for the long post but these are a hodge podge of ideas I haven’t had a chance to put together. I don’t mean to be self indulgent.) ....great post! Now, everyone in America knows about IU, but some elitist are waiting for the "all knowing" and expected hiccup to show reason why we don't belong with the big boys. Here's the current stage, we have our new Commander and Chief in the driver's seat and everyone else's envy. Scott Dolson should be named A.D. of the year for this one hire alone. To go along with this rocket-like trajectory of success, Scott Dolson and Co. should already have all the money to match ANY and all suiters ready at his disposal. We have seen the results of Coach Cignetti's "Blueprint and Plan",....now what will Scott Dolson's "Blueprint and Plan" be to keep him long term? Go IU! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 19 hours ago, mrflynn03 said: It's getting annoying seeing complaints about the schedule being weak. They forget all these teams have an L on their schedule by the IU game showing they got the snot beat out of them. More and more of their fans are also realizing the IU is for real despite the repeated and worn out "weak schedule" pitch. Most seem to be a state of disappointment and submission..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kycarter88 Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 I’ve seen @btownqb take the Sunday morning indiana line each week I feel like. I finally took the advice first thing Sunday morning and got in at -11.5. Feel very confident we win by 17+ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 Hoosier by 70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 We will drop 40 again. 41-24 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 56 minutes ago, kycarter88 said: I’ve seen @btownqb take the Sunday morning indiana line each week I feel like. I finally took the advice first thing Sunday morning and got in at -11.5. Feel very confident we win by 17+ SVP was just saying on his show that betting on Indiana this year is just a question of: how much money do you want to win? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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