Purdue Pregame Thread

[TheWatShot]

1) Where is Purdue going to come up with the money for $6 million a year?

 

2) If they can afford to pay a coach that much, why are we only paying ours less than a third of that?

[Billingsley99]

10 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

1) Where is Purdue going to come up with the money for $6 million a year?

 

2) If they can afford to pay a coach that much, why are we only paying ours less than a third of that?

Idk I we do but probably because we pay more out to all the coaches in FB and BB that we canned.

[Stlboiler23]

10 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

1) Where is Purdue going to come up with the money for $6 million a year?

 

2) If they can afford to pay a coach that much, why are we only paying ours less than a third of that?

For number one, I’m guessing the increased revenue from attendance, merchandise, food, etc will be a big part of that and I’d only expect attendance to continue to increase moving forward. That plus the BTN check every year. 

[FWIUFan]

1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said:

For number one, I’m guessing the increased revenue from attendance, merchandise, food, etc will be a big part of that and I’d only expect attendance to continue to increase moving forward. That plus the BTN check every year. 

As I've stated before, I'm schizophrenic and an alum of both IU and PU.  I like Brohm and would like to see him stay at PU.  I'm not concerned about the money, PU has it if they want to spend it. I would love for him to upgrade the PU program just as I still think CTA will upgrade IU if given the chance.  Would love for the Bucket game to have some national recognition as well as local.  Would be good for both programs going forward.

[TheWatShot]

2 hours ago, Billingsley99 said:

Idk I we do but probably because we pay more out to all the coaches in FB and BB that we canned.

I would guess that has almost nothing to do with it.

[CauseThatsMyDJ]

As I type this...60% chance of WEATHER on Saturday. 

[Leathernecks]

27 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said:

As I type this...60% chance of WEATHER on Saturday. 

I've heard all of Purdue's bad losses were because of weather, so we might stand a chance against the mighty Boilermakers.

[Steubenhoosier]

On 11/20/2018 at 1:06 PM, Artesian_86 said:

Interesting Brohm info I was just told. I do not have a source, but am passing along information that perked my interest. .......I just met with my new insurance rep, and he noticed my IU shirt. He then mentioned that he had season football and basketball tickets as well and would be at the bucket game. I thought he was an IU fan until he told me he lived in West Lafayette and his daughter was a Purdue Football manager. He said one of her responsibilities was Brohm's head set. 

So...I asked him the obvious question, "Do you thing he is leaving?" He quickly said,..."He is not going anywhere. He and his family love it here." I then asked him, "What makes you say that?" He said,  "He as already told the players and managers that he is staying at Purdue." He also said that Purdue is willing to pay him $6 million annually. Who knows how much truth there is to this, but I have a sneaky feeling that Brohm is going to stay at Purdue. 

Whoever told you this is delusional.

W. Lafayette v Louisville?

No comparison. There is nothing about W Lafayette as a “town” that comes close to the city of Louisville. 

Not saying that Louisville will put Brohm in the national spotlight, but Purdue won’t either. If neither will, and the $$$ is comparable, where would you want to live?   

 

[Stlboiler23]

34 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

Whoever told you this is delusional.

W. Lafayette v Louisville?

No comparison. There is nothing about W Lafayette as a “town” that comes close to the city of Louisville. 

Not saying that Louisville will put Brohm in the national spotlight, but Purdue won’t either. If neither will, and the $$$ is comparable, where would you want to live?   

 

Why are they delusional? You’re explaining why there’s no comparison to you which doesn’t matter. It matters what Brohm thinks. Not going to respond to my reply on the previous page?

[Artesian_86]

1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said:

Whoever told you this is delusional.

W. Lafayette v Louisville?

No comparison. There is nothing about W Lafayette as a “town” that comes close to the city of Louisville. 

Not saying that Louisville will put Brohm in the national spotlight, but Purdue won’t either. If neither will, and the $$$ is comparable, where would you want to live?   

 

Good grief!.....Relax dude. I'm just passing along information that was offered to me. That's all. I, for one, would not want to live in either place. While I was at IU, 25 years ago, I dated a girl going to Purdue...Not to much to write home about. As far as U of L, I live 30 min. north of it, plus my daughter just graduated grad school there.....Nothing too exciting there either. Just my opinion.

[Steubenhoosier]

16 minutes ago, Artesian_86 said:

Good grief!.....Relax dude. I'm just passing along information that was offered to me. That's all. I, for one, would not want to live in either place. While I was at IU, 25 years ago, I dated a girl going to Purdue...Not to much to write home about. As far as U of L, I live 30 min. north of it, plus my daughter just graduated grad school there.....Nothing too exciting there either. Just my opinion.

Thanks, bud. Plenty relaxed. I was not criticizing you. More, whomever suggested that living in W Lafayette is anywhere near as attractive as living in Louisville. And, I was not commenting on the campuses. UL is a crappy campus , as is PU. More talking about the cities and their amenities.

Spent considerable time in both places. No comparison imo.

[Steubenhoosier]

On 11/20/2018 at 6:55 PM, Stlboiler23 said:

1. It isn’t just the OSU game he’s hanging his hat on. He has 3 Top 25 wins this year. Yes there have been bad losses but he still has a roster with significant depth issues from the previous regime. 

2. Average attendance in Hazell’s last year was about 35k. This year it’s over 50k. The fans came back and they came back quicker than almost anyone expected. 

3. He’s on the verge of signing the best class in Purdue history and is starting to finally build depth after he was left with some solid players but no depth. 

4. Purdue signing him to a deal worth $6 million a year shows their commitment to their football program and can help with recruiting showing we’ll do whatever it takes to build a winner. 

5. Purdue is on the verge of back-to-back bowl seasons with mostly 2/3 star talent and guys that didn’t even have other P5 offers. Think what Brohm will be able to do when he gets his own players in the program. 

If you had been through what Purdue went through the last 4 years and then saw what Brohm did to resurrect the program, you’re telling me you wouldn’t gamble and pay him $6 million a year? Think about it. Guys like David Bell wouldn’t have even mentioned Purdue at all before Brohm got here (he’s on record saying he wasn’t looking at Purdue at all beforehand). The fact he has the chance to get Purdue to back to back bowl games to me is nothing short of miraculous. Purdue hasn’t had this much buzz in 15 years. You do whatever it takes to keep that going. 

You asked me to respond to this.

#1- The only team currently in the top 25 that you have beaten is OSU. The other two games that you are referring to-Iowa and BC I believe, have both fallen off thus the wins aren’t nearly as impressive 

#2- Great on the attendance. The majority of any athletic department’s revenue is going to come from the networks. Those dollars are going to be there regardless of the product. Rutgers gets the same amount from the BTN as Purdue or IU

#3- Recruiting rankings are for the alumni and fans... so they can puff their chests out. Come back to me in 2-3 years and we’ll evaluate how good your recruiting class is

#4- Good Luck to PU if they want to spend $6 million on a guy who has provided your program mediocre results thus far. I work with investments and frequently have to counsel clients who want to buy overvalued stocks. 

Analogy fits, imo 

#5-  Purdue might be on the verge of going to back to back bowls. They have to beat their rival on the road first. 

Don’t talk to me about woe is me, poor Purdue. You are posting on the IU fan board, representing one of the historically worst D1 football programs. What you think are rough times over the last 4 years, IU fans alive today have experienced for 90% of their lifetimes.

Have I responded sufficiently for you?

[jblaz13]

57 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

Thanks, bud. Plenty relaxed. I was not criticizing you. More, whomever suggested that living in W Lafayette is anywhere near as attractive as living in Louisville. And, I was not commenting on the campuses. UL is a crappy campus , as is PU. More talking about the cities and their amenities.

Spent considerable time in both places. No comparison imo.

Lol i had thought to lighten the spirits and realized this was the FB thread.  

I was off last week . It was a competitive effort by IU in a loss. This week I might be wrong again, but I think the team with the fewest miscues, and more 7's  than 3's  wins, unlike last weekend.

Going with about 35-31 IU.

Boiler down!  Go Hoosiers! 

 

[Leathernecks]

11 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

You asked me to respond to this.

#1- The only team currently in the top 25 that you have beaten is OSU. The other two games that you are referring to-Iowa and BC I believe, have both fallen off thus the wins aren’t nearly as impressive 

#2- Great on the attendance. The majority of any athletic department’s revenue is going to come from the networks. Those dollars are going to be there regardless of the product. Rutgers gets the same amount from the BTN as Purdue or IU

#3- Recruiting rankings are for the alumni and fans... so they can puff their chests out. Come back to me in 2-3 years and we’ll evaluate how good your recruiting class is

#4- Good Luck to PU if they want to spend $6 million on a guy who has provided your program mediocre results thus far. I work with investments and frequently have to counsel clients who want to buy overvalued stocks. 

Analogy fits, imo 

#5-  Purdue might be on the verge of going to back to back bowls. They have to beat their rival on the road first. 

Don’t talk to me about woe is me, poor Purdue. You are posting on the IU fan board, representing one of the historically worst D1 football programs. What you think are rough times over the last 4 years, IU fans alive today have experienced for 90% of their lifetimes.

Have I responded sufficiently for you?

Adding on to what you have,

#1 - BC is 7-4 and have beaten nobody.  We could possibly have 7-8 wins with their schedule and how bad some of the ACC is this year.

Iowa has also beaten nobody.  Both are a few teams down in the "other's receiving votes" on the polls.

#2  A few thousand extra in attendance might add a few million a year.  The money the get from the B1G is around $50 million a year.  The attendance money between 35k and 50k is really small compared to B1G money.

#3  Purdue already has 24 commits.  They will get passed up by teams as other teams start filling out their classes.  Looking at 247 composite rankings, if we took out our long snapper (who I like, but specialists like that kill rankings), we'd have almost the same average star rating as Purdue (actually just a hair better).

#4 I would be amazed if they'd spend $6 on Brohm.  That would put him as the 9th highest paid coach.  And you're right, his results have been mediocre.  He did a good job last year, but not this year.  Especially if they lose to us Saturday.  Hazell didn't recruit a lot of depth, but Brohm did inherit one of the best QBs in the conference, and a very good RB.  Both of whom were RS juniors his first year.  And last year they had something like 8 seniors on defense.  If they want to pay a .500 coach $6 million, good luck to them.

[Steubenhoosier]

12 minutes ago, jblaz13 said:

My wife is from Vermont. I always give her crap because of what I call ugly, orange, $#!+brick buildings, which I noticed in many of her hometown photos. 

I would say Orange buildings, and IU's leftovers  in bball recruiting give them some things in common..However they nearly  pulled in as many Indiana kids as Crean managed to get over the same past 5 years. Pretty sure that in 2 of the past 3 seasons they've set a program record for wins.

As for statewide natural beauty, it's Vt hands down IMO. Same with cute girl.

Vermont girls in plural form are also hazardous to my health.  Lol 

All of that aside, in hindsight given his play thus far at IU, losing McRoberts really might have hurt them since they've been competitive against most of their recent Power 5 opponents. He could have made a huge difference in their NCAAT fortunes in recent years, and playing in the 1 bid America East their conference tourney loss sent a pretty good Catamount team to the NIT last season.

I'm sure glad ZM decided to play again after enrolling at IU. We  sure could use him back now.

 

 

 

 

Blaz! Have you been nipping on something pre-Thanksgiving 😀? These comments are on the football board but you are talking hoops 😂😂😂

[Leathernecks]

13 minutes ago, jblaz13 said:

Lol i had thought to lighten the spirits and realized this was the FB thread.  

 

 

 

I assume that most IU football fans are drunk all the time or else they wouldn't have made it this far in their fandom.  There's plenty of "spirits" around here 🍻

[Stlboiler23]

16 minutes ago, Leathernecks said:

Adding on to what you have,

#1 - BC is 7-4 and have beaten nobody.  We could possibly have 7-8 wins with their schedule and how bad some of the ACC is this year.

Iowa has also beaten nobody.  Both are a few teams down in the "other's receiving votes" on the polls.

#2  A few thousand extra in attendance might add a few million a year.  The money the get from the B1G is around $50 million a year.  The attendance money between 35k and 50k is really small compared to B1G money.

#3  Purdue already has 24 commits.  They will get passed up by teams as other teams start filling out their classes.  Looking at 247 composite rankings, if we took out our long snapper (who I like, but specialists like that kill rankings), we'd have almost the same average star rating as Purdue (actually just a hair better).

#4 I would be amazed if they'd spend $6 on Brohm.  That would put him as the 9th highest paid coach.  And you're right, his results have been mediocre.  He did a good job last year, but not this year.  Especially if they lose to us Saturday.  Hazell didn't recruit a lot of depth, but Brohm did inherit one of the best QBs in the conference, and a very good RB.  Both of whom were RS juniors his first year.  And last year they had something like 8 seniors on defense.  If they want to pay a .500 coach $6 million, good luck to them.

With regards to recruiting, sure other teams will pass us but the bottom line is that Brohm is on the verge of back to back bowl games with recruiting classes that ranked 70th, 67th, 80th, and 72nd. This class is likely at worst in the low 30’s. A significant number of current Purdue players had maybe one or two D1 offers. This class has guys that had offers from all over the place. Add David Bell and that’s a great class. 

[rico]

3 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said:

With regards to recruiting, sure other teams will pass us but the bottom line is that Brohm is on the verge of back to back bowl games with recruiting classes that ranked 70th, 67th, 80th, and 72nd. This class is likely at worst in the low 30’s. A significant number of current Purdue players had maybe one or two D1 offers. This class has guys that had offers from all over the place. Add David Bell and that’s a great class. 

Boiler, you know I love ya and enjoy your insight.  But 6 mil a year?  I mean, really?  Don't see that, if the 'Ville wants to pay him that then I would say "Have at it" if I was a Boiler fan.

[Stlboiler23]

15 minutes ago, rico said:

Boiler, you know I love ya and enjoy your insight.  But 6 mil a year?  I mean, really?  Don't see that, if the 'Ville wants to pay him that then I would say "Have at it" if I was a Boiler fan.

If I’m Purdue, I do whatever I can to keep Brohm. I think he’s that good. 

[BeerBQ]

I live clos to Louisville (on the sunny side of the river) and have been to PU a few times. Purdue (and IU) both have more of a college town/campus feel. The UL stuff I've been to just seems different. One isn't necessarily better than the other so it comes down to preference, but that is the biggest difference I've noticed. 

[OGIUAndy]

4 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said:

If I’m Purdue, I do whatever I can to keep Brohm. I think he’s that good. 

Honestly, as an IU fan (and I would guess most IU fans) I hope that Brohm leaves. At this point he's a threat in the Big Ten and to IU (recruiting, bowls). He's a better coach than Allen, and probably most other coaches in the league. Us Hoosier fans would kill for a win against OSU (or Michigan). We've been close but with a better coach (like a Brohm), we probably win a couple of the those close calls. And I agree, PU should pay him what he wants. Money just isn't that big of a deal anymore because of BTN cash and boosters. But if UL offers the same amount or more, I don't see how he turns them down simply because of his connection with the school. It's definitely not going to come down to what school has a better campus or city. That stuff is rarely the deciding factor. It's not like the choice is between Anchorage or NYC. It's two average midwest cities. These guys are coaching/recruiting 80+% of their lives, not picking up chicks, partying, or going to museums. Lastly, if he stays and has success, he's going to be a target for a lot programs every year, that's just the nature of the beast. So even if he does stay, he'll most likely leave at some point. But I agree, I would want my school to pay a coach that I like. Go Hoosiers! Boiler Down! 

[jblaz13]

11 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said:

Blaz! Have you been nipping on something pre-Thanksgiving 😀? These comments are on the football board but you are talking hoops 😂😂😂

Affirmative.. It was a fine wine time.You were on it, replying before my blurry vision permitted me to complete the edit.    I went with 35-31 home team.

Apologies

[rico]

11 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said:

If I’m Purdue, I do whatever I can to keep Brohm. I think he’s that good. 

Fair enough.

[FKIM01]

LOL...Mitch Daniels is not going to pay Brohm $6 million a year.

If I were Painter, I'd be beyond pissed at the prospect of a .500 football coach being paid more than twice what I was getting.

[rico]

4 hours ago, FKIM01 said:

LOL...Mitch Daniels is not going to pay Brohm $6 million a year.

If I were Painter, I'd be beyond pissed at the prospect of a .500 football coach being paid more than twice what I was getting.

Maybe they both get raises?