Billingsley99 Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I've heard Knight speak twice since him leaving. Both events he couldn't have been more cordial or gracious with his time. We talked baseball for 10 minutes after it was over because I asked him how him and Tony LaRussa got together. It is amazing though. I don't get nervous around anyone or anything in my life. Standing there next to him for those 10 minutes I was in awe, his presence is still large...and I found myself honestly being nervous....and it was awesome. I'll cheer for that guy forever. No matter if he comes back or not. Besides maybe meeting Walter Payton as a kid....I didn't idolize any other athlete or coach more than Coach Knight. With that said....Indiana Basketball is bigger than any one person so I continue to unhealthily support IU while still loving Coach Knight. Well said. During coaches class and at practice I met the following Tony larussa Tommy lasorda d Wayne Lukas bill parcels and bill belicheat. Knight was bigger than life and I was in awe every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Billingsley99 said: Well said. During coaches class and at practice I met the following Tony larussa Tommy lasorda d Wayne Lukas bill parcels and bill belicheat. Knight was bigger than life and I was in awe every day That is just awesome. I can't remember the specifics but maybe you can refresh my memory. Regarding D Wayne Lukas son. Knight either got him the medical care or did something up and above to help his buddy out. What a crew you got to meet. I tried to get into his class while at IU. No dice. Haha.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: That is just awesome. I can't remember the specifics but maybe you can refresh my memory. Regarding D Wayne Lukas son. Knight either got him the medical care or did something up and above to help his buddy out. What a crew you got to meet. I tried to get into his class while at IU. No dice. Haha.. Give me a call sometime if u want to talk about some of those stories. I dont recall the details with Lukas son. Have u heard of I want to say Rosie diner in the West side. Little mom and pop joint Knight would take the team there every year great stories the owners could tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Give me a call sometime if u want to talk about some of those stories. I dont recall the details with Lukas son. Have u heard of I want to say Rosie diner in the West side. Little mom and pop joint Knight would take the team there every year great stories the owners could tell I haven't heard about Rosie Diner. I was always on the lookout at Wagon Wheel though. Haha. I'll have to dig into my memory and find the D Wayne Lukas stuff. He was an asst coach for I believe Johnny Orr (who Knight was friendly with). Used to have him on the bench at IU games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Watching the 30 for 30 right now. My IU fan hood is a bit newer (ten years or so)...but wow kind of disturbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJPaisley Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 It was an ugly time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 It went about the way I figured it would,interviews with people who didn't have any involvement with the day to day operation of the basketball program at that time,and then have two former players (Calloway, Mandaville ) talk about things they seen...lol..I would like to know who the players were who wouldn't give up there identity...never did see Dak or Felling pull Knight off Reed as he said happend in his interview....any guesses on who mailed the tape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 The thing that annoys me about this 30 for 30 is they focused on the "choking" incident. In typical fashion the media cherry picked a few seconds of the video and slowed it down. Knight didnt choke reid. If you watch the actual video he grabbed him by the shoulder/trap and got in his face from what I can tell. After all, it was a very poor quality video so who really knows. It lasted less than 2 seconds. When I played sports it wasn't uncommon for a coach to grab by the arm or shoulder and get in your face or do it to reposition you. Not saying he didnt deserve what happened but that video was just the excuse they needed to fire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 9 hours ago, HoosierJax said: It went about the way I figured it would,interviews with people who didn't have any involvement with the day to day operation of the basketball program at that time,and then have two former players (Calloway, Mandaville ) talk about things they seen...lol..I would like to know who the players were who wouldn't give up there identity...never did see Dak or Felling pull Knight off Reed as he said happend in his interview....any guesses on who mailed the tape? I know 100 percent without question who sent the tape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted November 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 45 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I know 100 percent without question who sent the tape I thought Felling did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 10 hours ago, HoosierJax said: It went about the way I figured it would,interviews with people who didn't have any involvement with the day to day operation of the basketball program at that time,and then have two former players (Calloway, Mandaville ) talk about things they seen...lol..I would like to know who the players were who wouldn't give up there identity...never did see Dak or Felling pull Knight off Reed as he said happend in his interview....any guesses on who mailed the tape? They asked for interviews with those guys and they turned them down. For me it is hard and feel a little ashamed that I actually idolized that man for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: They asked for interviews with those guys and they turned them down. For me it is hard and feel a little ashamed that I actually idolized that man for so long. They talked,said so during the show..they just didn't want to be identified or go in front of the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 minute ago, HoosierJax said: They talked,said so during the show..they just didn't want to be identified or go in front of the camera. They asked RMK for an interview and DD said he turned down the request for him to be on the show. I just can't believe there are people still out there that saw this and was around when it was happening that still try to justify it in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 28 minutes ago, IU Scott said: They asked RMK for an interview and DD said he turned down the request for him to be on the show. I just can't believe there are people still out there that saw this and was around when it was happening that still try to justify it in any way. I did not watch it. Which parts are you referring to. Just some examples so I can understand. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, IU Scott said: They asked RMK for an interview and DD said he turned down the request for him to be on the show. I just can't believe there are people still out there that saw this and was around when it was happening that still try to justify it in any way. Why would he want to,he did plenty of interviews when it happened . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Why would he want to,he did plenty of interviews when it happened . Remember it like it was yesterday. I was pool side at the Luxor and an older gentleman who knew we were from IU handed me the paper with title Dark Knight. It was the Neil Reed incident. That evening we went out to dinner and at the MGM sport book I noticed a horse named Been a Rough Knight was racing. I had no clue how to bet horses so I dropped A$50 and somehow cashed in for little over 800. A silver lining to Neil Reed story. Not so lucky after the Louisville scandal I put a boat load on Ugly Hooker but lost my shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 The events are in the rear view mirror. Time to concentrate on the present and look forward to the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 18 years later and still one of the most polarizing figures/stories in sports history, right? If I thought the story would be told objectively with contributions from all sides I would watch it. That isn't a sign of me condoning any of Knight's behavior. More of a sign of my disdain for people in the media who never tell all sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 I find it interesting how often this story comes up but you never hear about Woody Hayes assaulting an opposing teams player on live tv. Wait a minute. Knight went to ohio state, woody hayes, urban Meyer scandal this year. lots of abuse coming out of that university. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 minute ago, mrflynn03 said: I find it interesting how often this story comes up but you never hear about Woody Hayes assaulting an opposing teams player on live tv. Wait a minute. Knight went to ohio state, woody hayes, urban Meyer scandal this year. lots of abuse coming out of that university. We keep getting Knight stuff yet pedophiles and massive cover up at Penn St is almost forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: We keep getting Knight stuff yet pedophiles and massive cover up at Penn St is almost forgotten. We have turned into a butt kissing society. Knight refuses to do it so the story remains. Every media personality that ever dealt with Knight has a story of him belittling them or something. Since he wont give in every few years media outlets will bring him back to the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: We keep getting Knight stuff yet pedophiles and massive cover up at Penn St is almost forgotten. How about Baylor? That was murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, rico said: How about Baylor? That was murder. Most sports fans have never heard of Dave Bliss and the Baylor situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: We have turned into a butt kissing society. Knight refuses to do it so the story remains. Every media personality that ever dealt with Knight has a story of him belittling them or something. Since he wont give in every few years media outlets will bring him back to the present. Nothing but regurgitation on the media's part. I am over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, rico said: How about Baylor? That was murder. I still believe covering up pedophiles over decades is worse. Just my 2 cents. Murder is obviously final. I get that....but how many victims in the Penn St cover up live every day a living hell because of what they went through. Sex abuse against kids is the ultimate in my book. Zero tolerance for any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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