DC2345 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 Based on what I found when I looked at the Dayton shooting numbers the 3 point shooting was between 34 and 38 percent. IU is shooting 34 percent this year. As for free throws the shooting percentage at Dayton went down every single year under CAM during his tenure at Dayton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATX_sig Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 That's disappointing stats to see. I like the style of writing this out on paper and taking a photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 Not to be picky, but FT shooting did not go down between Year 5 & Year 6. I would also venture to guess that the 38% 3 PT percentage in year 6 was probably above the national average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchenry34 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 I'm hopeful that he will be able to recruit differently...a) recruit more two way players who can shoot b) recruit high level athletes who can get out on the break to mitigate lack of shooting and who can get on the glass to mitigate lack of shooting that way... That is one of the things that injuries have really hampered...our ability to rebound and play hard on the offensive glass instead of having to just get back defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, ATX_sig said: That's disappointing stats to see. I like the style of writing this out on paper and taking a photo. I didn’t feel like typing all of that out if I’m being honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Not to be picky, but FT shooting did not go down between Year 5 & Year 6. I would also venture to guess that the 38% 3 PT percentage in year 6 was probably above the national average. Very true but my point is we don’t need to be expecting dramatic improvements because the reality is CAM has never proven that he can do develop shooting so far at Dayton or IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 Another guy who has never posted before coming out of the woodwork to criticize. Really getting tedious. Love to have new members here, but not if their only purpose is to add more negativity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 Interesting stats...it'd be important to size up his stats relative to some benchmarks...national average and maybe power 5 national average. Without those it's kind of hard to size up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Another guy who has never posted before coming out of the woodwork to criticize. I didn't know Dan Dakich had so many friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonialcrester Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Another guy who has never posted before coming out of the woodwork to criticize. Really getting tedious. Love to have new members here, but not if their only purpose is to add more negativity I'm not sure he is a troll. He didn't say anything about firing the coach, getting Demezi more time, Greene being an idiot, etc. 🙂 I think those are legitimate numbers we can discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonialcrester Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 46 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Based on what I found when I looked at the Dayton shooting numbers the 3 point shooting was between 34 and 38 percent. IU is shooting 34 percent this year. As for free throws the shooting percentage at Dayton went down every single year under CAM during his tenure at Dayton. Welcome to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonialcrester Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Another guy who has never posted before coming out of the woodwork to criticize. Really getting tedious. Love to have new members here, but not if their only purpose is to add more negativity Also, he has been a member since April, just not posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 it does seem strange that the thread was started by a guy with 10 posts and the first comment was from a guy with 20 posts. and then that other new guy that is starting threads all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Another guy who has never posted before coming out of the woodwork to criticize. Really getting tedious. Love to have new members here, but not if their only purpose is to add more negativity Sorry but I posted back on the 247 hsn site. I’ve had this account for a while I just haven’t posted much. I’m sorry but facts are facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, DC2345 said: Sorry but I posted back on the 247 hsn site. I’ve had this account for a while I just haven’t posted much. I’m sorry but facts are facts. 7 minutes ago, Colonialcrester said: I'm not sure he is a troll. He didn't say anything about firing the coach, getting Demezi more time, Greene being an idiot, etc. 🙂 I think those are legitimate numbers we can discuss. With such a well formatted spread sheet, he has to be legit.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Colonialcrester said: I'm not sure he is a troll. He didn't say anything about firing the coach, getting Demezi more time, Greene being an idiot, etc. 🙂 I think those are legitimate numbers we can discuss. Never said he was a troll. However, welcome to the board and go ahead and bash the program. I guess building credibility before doing so is just in my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Colonialcrester said: Welcome to the forum. Thanks. I hadn’t posted on the new site but I had an account back on the old 247 hsn site and then it took me a while to find the new 3.0 site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, bluegrassIU said: With such a well formatted spread sheet, he has to be legit.;) I already stated I didn’t feel like typing all that out on my phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Colonialcrester said: I'm not sure he is a troll. He didn't say anything about firing the coach, getting Demezi more time, Greene being an idiot, etc. 🙂 I think those are legitimate numbers we can discuss. Correct all of these numbers can be found on the sports reference website. I coach high school basketball and these are trends that I look at from time to time that I found interesting with different teams. I thought I would look to see if there was any kind of trend at Dayton since IU’s shooting has been such a hot topic on multiple message boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg haggard Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 To give full context here is the w/l breakdown, overall then conference. 1. 20-13, 9-7 2. 17-14, 7-9 3. 26-11, 10-6 4. 27-9, 13-5 5. 25-8, 14-4 6. 24-8, 15-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg haggard Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 To me the free throw shooting is more troubling. Coach was a good free throw shooter when he played, so???. To me it's inexplicable, but must be put down to mental preparation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchenry34 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: it does seem strange that the thread was started by a guy with 10 posts and the first comment was from a guy with 20 posts. and then that other new guy that is starting threads all over the place. I guess you are thinking of me as "that other new guy that is starting threads all over the place".... Aside from the fact that I have had an account with this site for a long time, I haven't started any threads and also always been positive...so, probably implying that I am somehow a troll is out of place... Do I need to give my fan resume/pedigree to post here? I've been a fan my whole life but don't really remember our last championship as I was only six. My favorite players growing up were Cheaney and Evans (wore 34 in high school because of Evans). I grew up in Columbus, Ohio so I took a ton of grief for being an Indiana fan in those early 90s years where the championships were being won by us or OSU before Purdue went on their run... The Bob Knight I remember was only boorish and abusive and stubborn and his genius was diminished by transfer after transfer and first round flame outs, the only thing that I could be confident of in those years is that we would make the tournament...I have high hopes that in the next couple of years Indiana fans can return to that kind of confidence and losing streaks don't turn into an excuse to say awful things and call for people to lose jobs and scholarships from behind the safety net of their keyboards... I do think that if given some stability and support to build a roster Archie Miller can restore some normalcy to all this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cohete15 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 I think it's safe to say that at this point, Archie is not a shooting coach. It's not safe to assume that we will never be a good shooting team. I think the shooting can get turned around on this team. The staff just needs to push the right buttons to increase the confidence level in these kids. I think we could see the Justin Smith we expected to see after his offensive performance @ Purdue. I also think that Archie still has the guys questioning whether to shoot or not...that doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Leathernecks said: Thanks. Doesn't seem like Archie is big on the 3 ball. Not sure how great I feel about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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