IU Scott Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Good teams just dont have games like this good teams lose to some bad teams but very few shoot 22 percent. We have no one who when they shoot from anywhere layups included do I feel confident its going in. That's a big.probkem. a systematic problem not a 1 bad game problem UK was 0-10 from 3 there last game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePaulieWalnuts Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 I'd take Donovan, Stevens, Beilein or Pitino in a heartbeat if we're talking about being elite and winning basketball games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, southsidehoosier said: He’d be 71 in 4 years. I’ll take it I thought he was already in his 70's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Just now, IU Scott said: UK was 0-10 from 3 there last game Did I say UK was a great team. How many freshmen they play . These are upper classes all Archie guys. We shot 22 for the game not just.piss.poor from 3 but from point blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Just now, IU Scott said: I thought he was already in his 70's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, madmax said: Everyone needs to chill. Just like we weren’t declaring this a final 4 season after yesterday(or we shouldn’t have been), we also shouldn’t be calling this a sure sign of Archie’s failure either. It’s disappointing for sure. The game sucked. I’m sure no one here cares nearly nearly as much as the team and coaching staff. It's not just a single game, though. It's 3 seasons of this up and down, inconsistent play. It's 3 seasons of poor shooting and uninspired looking games more often than not. I think the sample size is large enough now to really question how well Miller is performing at IU. Sure, this single game may be a one-off bad game just like FSU and Marquette were one-off good games but the last 3 seasons make that seem unlikely. I guess we'll have a better idea tomorrow which it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 I just hope this was one of those games when you look back and say, “ I can’t believe how bad we played against Texas.......Now look how good we are!” I guess we will see how resilient they are tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: UK was 0-10 from 3 there last game Scott. No one on this board wants to be UK. But, we do want to be consistent winners that play the right way. How about staying in the Big Ten and compare us to Wisconsin. Why should Wisconsin be the team on the long string of Top 4 finishes and not IU? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jackson Kellogs said: I think we're all in denial.. this program will never be the same again.. let's face reality here. Archie isn't the guy. Pretty simple. Well UCLA has only won one championship since Wooden and they go through coaches and it has not helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Good teams just dont have games like this good teams lose to some bad teams but very few shoot 22 percent. We have no one who when they shoot from anywhere layups included do I feel confident its going in. That's a big.probkem. a systematic problem not a 1 bad game problem Right, and what I’m saying is you can’t diagnose systemic problems after 3 games. You can over the course of seasons, sure, and maybe this is a continued trend of the past 3 years. But maybe it’s not and we won’t know until later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, ThePaulieWalnuts said: I'd take Donovan, Stevens, Beilein or Pitino in a heartbeat if we're talking about being elite and winning basketball games Here’s a scary thought, with all the money lost due to Covid I expect a lot of teams may keep coaches longer in college ranks than they normally would. I love this list but unless we get a Cuban or Cook level donation to buy out Archie and pay the large sums for a super high profile guy I don’t see this happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, ThePaulieWalnuts said: I'd take Donovan, Stevens, Beilein or Pitino in a heartbeat if we're talking about being elite and winning basketball games Well none of those coaches are available and would never want Pitino because winning is not that important. I like Beilein but I don't know about his sge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Jesus. Time to logoff for a while. Let's judge Archie and the team at the middle of the season at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Well it took him 4 to 5 years to get his UM competing at a championship level. He would be like 78 years old if it took him that amount if time at IU. Marshall is available 😀. He'd be an instant "hit". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: Well UCLA has only won one championship since Wooden and they go through coaches and it has not helped. They also have the smallest recruiting budget of any Major program. They don't even use private jets. All coaches and teams have to use commercial travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyHoosier Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Hard to say much positive about today's performance. Most people posted what I said during the game....not Crean's kids anymore....style of play is tough to watch offensively. Granted, style of play has nothing to do about the insane amount of shots missed within two feet of the bucket. And I don't think the rebounding discrepancy is a talent issue. I watched many possessions where our guys stood around and simply didn't hustle to grab a loose ball. Incredibly disappointing to watch that happen over and over. And I the only thing worse that watching a crappy performance like that is doing so while listening to Bill Walton's oral diarrhea. How many times did that guy growl, bark, or oddly moan during that broadcast? I literally had to turn off the volume by the end of the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Just now, IU Scott said: Well none of those coaches are available and would never want Pitino because winning is not that important No one is unavailable at the right price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, ThePaulieWalnuts said: I'd take Donovan, Stevens, Beilein or Pitino in a heartbeat if we're talking about being elite and winning basketball games Not jumping on Stevens before the Celtics got him is going to be something that haunts this program for the rest of my life. He was the one. The perfect girl you had a chance with but never got the courage to ask out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calihoosier Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 I’m not advocating firing him yet but this game reminds me of the duke debacle of the coach crean’s last years where college analysts were wondering what the hell was he doing defensively but just now it’s in reverse were people are wondering why were running a 90’s style offense were we looks for twos and the more modern opponent’s offense looks for threes. Then again I feel this offense is perfect for us since as a program we are pretty much relics of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUskim Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Well UCLA has only won one championship since Wooden and they go through coaches and it has not helped. Might as well give it up. You’re not changing anyone’s mind and everyone is already convinced Archie isn’t the guy. Stop wasting your energy. It isn’t worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Well UCLA has only won one championship since Wooden and they go through coaches and it has not helped. How many FF's after Wooden? I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePaulieWalnuts Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 At this point, I'm willing to take whatever Bill Walton is on to see some better, more successful basketball on a consistent basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, madmax said: Right, and what I’m saying is you can’t diagnose systemic problems after 3 games. You can over the course of seasons, sure, and maybe this is a continued trend of the past 3 years. But maybe it’s not and we won’t know until later. 3 years and 3 games are enough. It looks the same great game followed by a slew of terrible games win 1 lose 4 or 5. We have great record against cupcakes and poor against everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Did I say UK was a great team. How many freshmen they play . These are upper classes all Archie guys. We shot 22 for the game not just.piss.poor from 3 but from point blank Well if they would just hit the shots at the basket we would be alright. I don't know if the kids don't keep their eyes on the rim or what they do to shoot so poorly within 5;feet of the basket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: Scott, you act like because fans are unhappy with a coach and how the team plays that they aren't rooting for them to win or want they to be great. I don't see our numbers of fans in the forum going down. I don't see anyone leaving IU and going to another team. I see fans who are ok with where we are and i see fans who are fed up with where we are. But i only see fans. You should step down from your high horse before you break your neck man see this is what i try to point out. just because we criticize doesn't mean we aren't still loyal fans. i'm not going to stop watching. i'm not going to stop cheering. i do have plenty of negative things to say after that mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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