IU Scott

1 minute ago, IUDan93 said:

I figured you'd do it for nothin'

Give me enough for my bills and living expenses I would be fine

3 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

Fun conversation gang! As always respect to all people....even if I don't agree. If Yasir can get us kids that can help Coach Woodson and IU compete in the Big 10 and nationally.....I'm down. 

I am down if he gets them legitimately but won't be if if he breaks any rules

5 minutes ago, Cutter said:

Called picking and choosing at what is acceptable or not. 

I never said it was alright to cheat on your wife but that is not what the discussion was about.  I said he didn't cheat to get players and would take their success on the court.

2 minutes ago, Muddy River said:

I agree with everything you said, and this last sentence is why this "alleged" hire makes zero sense to me.  There are hundreds of people who could fill that 3rd chair who don't bring the cloud of suspicion.  Keep Mike Roberts, hell, hire IU Scott, I think he's looking for work, and neither of them brings the cloud of suspicion.  And IF (Big If) Yasir ever decided to go rogue, we wouldn't know until it is too late.   He will have access to players worth paying for here.  IU has danced with this devil previously and we still haven't recovered.  I just don't see the reason to take another bite of this apple.

I'll take the job and at half what they are paying assistants

1 minute ago, Seeking6 said:

Biggest myth going. Go check the rankings. Ryan's best teams had multiple 4 and 5 star guys....and he was the master of something else.

He..unlike Crean....always had the kids come back for one more year when they could have left. Our guys left a year early.

The teams that went to the final 4 had 1 5 star player.  Kiminski their best player was a3 star player who took 3 years to really get good.

1 minute ago, rico said:

Bo cheated.

On his wife which is totally wrong but that is not what we are talking about

2 minutes ago, rico said:

Wiscy is dirty...

Sure they are.  Do you really cheat for guys who are 3 stars and outside the top 100

2 minutes ago, Cutter said:

If you think your morals are the same as college coaches players say aau players  etc then you are dreaming pal 

All I have to say if we have to be like KU, Arizona, UK or Duke to be successful then I pass.  Give me the success of UW under Ryan any day of the week.  They might not have won a championship but they competed for the conference every year and made deep runs in the tournament.

13 minutes ago, Cutter said:

But it is an illusion not reality

Having morals is an illusion?

I just know if we win big and even win a championship but have to vacate those things then it is not worth it.  I know if I were an UM fan and having those final fours vacated in 92 and 93 was not worth having the Fab Five.

Probably the majority of the people willing to look at the way in their ethics to win are probably the younger fans.  I don't understand if you guys not ever seeing IU win a championship and really want to see it.  To me that is no excuse wanting IU to do what ever it takes to win because IU has won the right way.

Also people talking about traveling and it is cheating have you guys actually played basketball.  Most of the time when a player travels it was not be because the player is trying to get away with something.  Most of the time you travel because you get going to quick and make your step before putting the ball downing the floor.  Also most fouls are not attentional where you are trying  get an advantage.  It is mostly due to the defender not being in a correct position and having to reach in.

30 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

Interesting ... how do you define cheating then?

To me when there are officials on the court whose job is to make the calls it is not cheating to travel or foul.  It is cheating when you fix the game or point shave or pay players to come to your school.

35 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said:

Quick question for you. Taking 3 steps to score a basket is cheating but if it's not called would you as the coach stop the game and tell the refs to take those points off because your team cheated to score them. Or you cheat by setting an illegal screen? I assume no to both so what level of cheating gets the Scott approval and which isn't. That's a little cheating right so it's not like being  a little pregnant 

Traveling is not cheating just like fouling isn't cheating.  Those two are objective calls by the officials.

3 minutes ago, Fiveoutofsix said:

Out of curiosity, Is being holier than now tarnishing a potential hires name when have no idea what actually happened and what IU is doing and why they value him?  The guy was never convicted or proven guilty.  Unfortunately, alot of good people, good human beings, were mentioned in those reports.  And, unfortunately, some of the those who should be mentioned were probably not.  

I don't think anyone deserves the treatment that some get.  

 

I have said like 5 times I trust Woodson and Dolson if they hire him

3 minutes ago, tdhoosier said:

Haha. If expecting someone to hold up to the values you, yourself, do not adhere to is a compliment then I think I finally understand you. 

You should always strive for perfection even though it is not possible. 

22 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

In virtually every NFL play, an O-lineman is holding, a D-back is holding, or both.

Sometimes they get caught, imo more times they don’t. If the refs decide not to call a close game, the players take advantage.

Is this cheating? Sure it is. But you and I accept it as players taking whatever edges they can. Kinda gray area? Sure, just like what some are suggesting. Are some things just accepted by fans? Yes sir. You probably accept them as well.

 

No one is advocating hollowing out a bat or deflating balls. However nothing wrong with scuffing the ball a little before throwing it back to the pitcher. Nothing wrong with living on the edge a bit.

To me holding in football is not cheating but it is like fouling in basketball where it is an objective call

I think being holier  than though is a compliment and not something to be criticized for.

Reds down 6-0 in the bottom not the 5th.  Arizona's pitcher had a perfect game through 5

6 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said:

I don't think anyone is advocating cheating. Maybe "stretch, the rules a little, but not cheating.

At least that's my take....

There is no such thing as a little cheating.  It is like you being a little pregnant

1 minute ago, rico said:

Now comes the 10 game losing streak...

They got good starting pitching the first time through the rotation but the last two starters not so much.

5 minutes ago, Muddy River said:

You're Back!!!!!

Never went anywhere because I never condone cheating.  I am just going to trust Woodson and Dolson if he is hired.

4 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said:

I see the real Scott has taken control of his account.  That earlier guy was obviously an imposter.

I am not saying hiring this guy will lead us to cheat.  I trust Woodson and Dolson if they bring him on. What I don't like is the attitude of some of the fans not caring if we cheat ad long as we win.  I don't believe in the gray area because you are either cheating it you are not.

10 minutes ago, DC2345 said:

Everyone really needs to stop with the holier than thou attitude when it comes to IU basketball. IU’s had more players get paid in recent years than people want to admit they just didn’t get caught. Rosemond got caught up in the investigation. He was willing to talk about setting up payments for players but it didn’t end up happening so he was cleared. Who knows but after that whole mess he might not want to do that ever again and he learned from past mistakes. He deserves a chance before fans start judging.

 

Well IU fans use to be proud of winning the right way.  It saddens me seeing so many newer fans not caring about how we win

Looks like the Reds might lose their second game in a row being down 4-0 in third inning.  The Reds has not gotten a base runner yet.

3 minutes ago, Muddy River said:

But, you, of all people, are OK with the ethical lapses?

Don't like it but will trust that Woodson and Dolson won't bring in anyone who will do something wrong.