Steubenhoosier Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-considering-the-elimination-of-divisions-amid-college-football-playoff-expansion-talks/ Would make things very interesting if they incorporated these changes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said: https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-considering-the-elimination-of-divisions-amid-college-football-playoff-expansion-talks/ Would make things very interesting if they incorporated these changes. The Athletic is reporting too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Well, I'm torn. I don't like the idea of a Conference Championship game when there aren't divisions. That said, the Big Ten's current divisions are not equitable. Something has to be done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Well, I'm torn. I don't like the idea of a Conference Championship game when there aren't divisions. That said, the Big Ten's current divisions are not equitable. Something has to be done Shouldn’t the objective be to have the two best teams in the league playing for the conference title? This year, for example. 2 maybe 3 teams in the East better than Wisconsin but only Michigan got in. Also, would provide a better chance to get multiple teams into playoffs. Takes away the argument that a team didn’t even make it to their conference championship game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Steubenhoosier said: Shouldn’t the objective be to have the two best teams in the league playing for the conference title? This year, for example. 2 maybe 3 teams in the East better than Wisconsin but only Michigan got in. Also, would provide a better chance to get multiple teams into playoffs. Takes away the argument that a team didn’t even make it to their conference championship game Actually, and I'm going to go all Scott on you, my preference would be a 10 team conference, play a 9 team conference schedule (every opponent), and have no conference championship game. To me, you can only crown a conference 'Champion' over the long haul of a balanced schedule where everybody plays everybody else. That's not really feasible when teh conference has more than 10 teams. The one game format to determine conference champions is flawed. Too often that one game wipes out a season's worth of accomplishments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Actually, and I'm going to go all Scott on you, my preference would be a 10 team conference, play a 9 team conference schedule (every opponent), and have no conference championship game. To me, you can only crown a conference 'Champion' over the long haul of a balanced schedule where everybody plays everybody else. That's not really feasible when teh conference has more than 10 teams. The one game format to determine conference champions is flawed. Too often that one game wipes out a season's worth of accomplishments. So let's do away with the divisions and play a 13 game conference schedule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 If they change to no divisions watch is still have to play OSU and UM every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuswingman Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Have a 4 team playoff for big ten Champs lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Actually, and I'm going to go all Scott on you, my preference would be a 10 team conference, play a 9 team conference schedule (every opponent), and have no conference championship game. To me, you can only crown a conference 'Champion' over the long haul of a balanced schedule where everybody plays everybody else. That's not really feasible when teh conference has more than 10 teams. The one game format to determine conference champions is flawed. Too often that one game wipes out a season's worth of accomplishments. In this world of conference expansion, no way they would get rid of any teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: In this world of conference expansion, no way they would get rid of any teams I am sure he realizes this but it would make for a better and more balanced conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I am sure he realizes this but it would make for a better and more balanced conference. Maybe. Don’t think that the money each program receives from the networks would be the same. Hard to be competitive with the big guys who are spending tons of cash on their coaches, facilities, recruiting, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Maybe. Don’t think that the money each program receives from the networks would be the same. Hard to be competitive with the big guys who are spending tons of cash on their coaches, facilities, recruiting, etc. We all know that and it won't happen. What I am saying that all of this expansion is not good for the game. It is all about the money and no worries about the game itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: We all know that and it won't happen. What I am saying that all of this expansion is not good for the game. It is all about the money and no worries about the game itself. How is it not good for the game. Better training facilities, better nutrition, higher quality coaching. For being a guy who often states the obvious, you sure seem to have a condescending attitude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Steubenhoosier said: How is it not good for the game. Better training facilities, better nutrition, higher quality coaching. For being a guy who often states the obvious, you sure seem to have a condescending attitude I just don't like seeing 14-16 teams in a conference. Also to me a conference shouldn't be spread out over thousands of miles. To me it is nice to play each team in your conference so it is a true champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I just don't like seeing 14-16 teams in a conference. Also to me a conference shouldn't be spread out over thousands of miles. To me it is nice to play each team in your conference so it is a true champion. That’s where it’s going though. Either jump on the train or get left behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: That’s where it’s going though. Either jump on the train or get left behind We all no that and it is not changing but not all change is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: We all no that and it is not changing but not all change is good Okay Scott. Glad you know everything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 I’m not sure about picking the first and second teams for the conference championship. It doesn’t seem equitable without a round robin schedule. There’d inevitably be tiebreakers. They would have to guard against arbitrary outcomes. But anything would be an improvement over the current divisional format. The results speak for themselves as the West hasn’t come close to winning even once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, Steubenhoosier said: Okay Scott. Glad you know everything At least you finally realized that. Why are you so angry today because your post today had an angry tone to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Not angry. Been told multiple times that my comments either “we all know “ or are all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 13 hours ago, IU Scott said: We all no that and it is not changing but not all change is good Sometimes when change comes people are skeptical to embrace it or even give it a chance. 20 years from now these "super conferences" might be viewed as the greatest thing since sliced bread. I am not aware of any "round robin" schedule that ever existed in college football power conferences past or present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 At least the B1G realizes they're handicapping themselves by playing 9 conference games when the SEC only plays 8. Half the conference gets 1 additional loss instead of playing a total trash team like Furman. It's not the best thing for season ticket holders, but helps the conference win more games and stay competitive. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Hoosierinbham said: At least the B1G realizes they're handicapping themselves by playing 9 conference games when the SEC only plays 8. Half the conference gets 1 additional loss instead of playing a total trash team like Furman. It's not the best thing for season ticket holders, but helps the conference win more games and stay competitive. Sounds like they wouldn't be replacing a conference game with a lower level opponent, but instead are trying to make more room for games against the two conferences they have formed this alliance with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrus13 Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1618202-big-ten-football-why-the-big-ten-should-split-north-south-instead-of-east-west This is interesting if you wanna read it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 20 hours ago, 5fouls said: Actually, and I'm going to go all Scott on you, my preference would be a 10 team conference, play a 9 team conference schedule (every opponent), and have no conference championship game. To me, you can only crown a conference 'Champion' over the long haul of a balanced schedule where everybody plays everybody else. That's not really feasible when teh conference has more than 10 teams. The one game format to determine conference champions is flawed. Too often that one game wipes out a season's worth of accomplishments. Yeah....genie out of the bottle on that one...no going back...but it was ideal. Look at the Big 12. They have 10 teams lol but that means they play everyone twice in basketball and once in football and can crown a true champion....no arguements about scheduling etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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