FW_Hoosier Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 https://sports.yahoo.com/projected-top-10-draft-pick-make-leap-high-school-g-league-193725979.html Will be interesting to see if this opens the floodgates. As a side note, Jerome Hunter outplayed this kid when their high school teams met up this past season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 See, nobody is forced to go to college. Interesting to see if this starts a trend for the top 10ish type guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Like I said in the recruiting thread that I just don't see why a kid would take this route but everyone is different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephul Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Was very unimpressed with him the few times I watched him play. Maybe he just had off games. Best of luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomBaby Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Previously an Ohio State commit before flipping to Syracuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, BGleas said: See, nobody is forced to go to college. Interesting to see if this starts a trend for the top 10ish type guys. With it getting much harder to get paid going to college? I'd almost bet on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 I think it's a risk. Weaknesses in your game are more likely to get exposed in the G League than in college. In college, you can still be drafted first round based on potential . Harder to do that when you get exposed in the G League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 59 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I think it's a risk. Weaknesses in your game are more likely to get exposed in the G League than in college. In college, you can still be drafted first round based on potential . Harder to do that when you get exposed in the G League. I agree.........but I wonder what kind of attendance spike he will bring to the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 6 hours ago, 5fouls said: I think it's a risk. Weaknesses in your game are more likely to get exposed in the G League than in college. In college, you can still be drafted first round based on potential . Harder to do that when you get exposed in the G League. In my mind, all it's doing in that case is exposing your weaknesses a year earlier. Either way you're a bust. Say you get exposed in the G league. You've still got a lot more time in that year to work on whatever weaknesses your game has. That's an offset to getting exposed. May cost you a rookie contract but may help you get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 If you're hell bent on being a one and done, then only real risk is potentially being exposed against better competition, where in college you may be able to hide weaknesses against inferior competition. So it could potentially hurt draft stock. But, if you're that intent being a one and done, then you might as well gamble on yourself. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 These guys with a good agent can also do some small local marketing stuff and get some endorsement deals. Nike, Adidas, UA will gamble on the top names as well. So if you are a top guy, you are going to get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceDouglas Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 Another interesting aspect to this is no team owns his draft rights until next year's draft. So what's the motivation for the G-League team to play/develop him if another NBA franchise ends up drafting him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted March 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 hours ago, BGleas said: If you're hell bent on being a one and done, then only real risk is potentially being exposed against better competition, where in college you may be able to hide weaknesses against inferior competition. So it could potentially hurt draft stock. But, if you're that intent being a one and done, then you might as well gamble on yourself. Makes sense. I think I’m with 5fouls on this one. I kind of have a feeling Bazley will get dominated in the G League playing against players in their mid-to-late 20s. On the other hand, he’d probably do better playing against lesser competition in college. Wouldn’t the smarter move (as far as draft stock goes) be to play in college for a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: These guys with a good agent can also do some small local marketing stuff and get some endorsement deals. Nike, Adidas, UA will gamble on the top names as well. So if you are a top guy, you are going to get paid. I don't any thing about the G- league but does the players playing in it now get much endorsements because I just feel like most companies would have no need for a G- league player to do endorsements. Here in Indy we have a minor league baseball team and soccer team and really don't see players doing endorsements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 7 hours ago, IU Scott said: I don't any thing about the G- league but does the players playing in it now get much endorsements because I just feel like most companies would have no need for a G- league player to do endorsements. Here in Indy we have a minor league baseball team and soccer team and really don't see players doing endorsements. If shoe companies are paying these kids while they're in college, why would they stop paying them now that they can legally make a deal for the one year they are in the g? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 3 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: If shoe companies are paying these kids while they're in college, why would they stop paying them now that they can legally make a deal for the one year they are in the g? Because they get way more exposure in the college game than they will in the G league. If you play at a blue blood program then you will be on national TV every night for 5 months and the tournament. In the G league you will never be on national TV and never seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Even so, in college, they are still gambling on future potential just like they are at the G-league. You think the shoe company that helped Marvin Bagley got a bunch of exposure from his year at Duke? Before the article posted here yesterday, I couldn't have told you who they were. I don't think a year in college vs. a year in the G league makes a bit of difference to a shoe company. It's all about pro potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 6 hours ago, IU Scott said: Because they get way more exposure in the college game than they will in the G league. If you play at a blue blood program then you will be on national TV every night for 5 months and the tournament. In the G league you will never be on national TV and never seen. I see your point. If a duke/future Nike kid gets some cash to go to Duke and then signs with Nike a year later, Duke/Nike still made some money off the college investment. LeBron looked like a future star coming out of high school and got a $100 million dollar deal straight out of the gate. Had he been forced into the g league for a season he would have received the same deal. To deny that ends the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 2 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: I see your point. If a duke/future Nike kid gets some cash to go to Duke and then signs with Nike a year later, Duke/Nike still made some money off the college investment. LeBron looked like a future star coming out of high school and got a $100 million dollar deal straight out of the gate. Had he been forced into the g league for a season he would have received the same deal. To deny that ends the conversation. LeBron was a different animal as compared to today's kids. His HS school games were on ESPN quite a bit, and I remember one where Jordan was there in the front row. He was shoe company's dream then as he is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Some kids just don’t want to go to college, let them go to the G League. College isn’t for everyone. There is a reason only 44% of Americans have an associates degree or higher. Think about Bagley for a second. His family went from a $44k yearly income to living in a $750k house. He was in high school and wasn’t going to Duke yet. Shoe company’s are playing the long game with these kids. They sign them early, not because they go to a P5 school, but for the chance that they become the next big thing. So Bazley goes to the G league and makes his $26k salary but will probably have a 6 figure Nike deal. Not a bad alternative to college. He can always go to college if basketball doesn’t work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 22 minutes ago, Feathery said: Some kids just don’t want to go to college, let them go to the G League. College isn’t for everyone. There is a reason only 44% of Americans have an associates degree or higher. Think about Bagley for a second. His family went from a $44k yearly income to living in a $750k house. He was in high school and wasn’t going to Duke yet. Shoe company’s are playing the long game with these kids. They sign them early, not because they go to a P5 school, but for the chance that they become the next big thing. So Bazley goes to the G league and makes his $26k salary but will probably have a 6 figure Nike deal. Not a bad alternative to college. He can always go to college if basketball doesn’t work out. Having watch this kid twice I just wouldn't put hi in the category of the players that have been mentioned. I just don't see where a shoe company would be knocking down doors to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveS Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 18 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: If shoe companies are paying these kids while they're in college, why would they stop paying them now that they can legally make a deal for the one year they are in the g? The reason the shoe companies are paying the kids is not just to get in with the kids early. Adidas wants their flagship schools like Louisville and Kansas to continue their prominence in college basketball, same with Nike and Under Armor. Adidas pays Louisville $44 million, what’s a couple of hundred thousand to players to make sure Louisville is nationally relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 5 hours ago, rico said: LeBron was a different animal as compared to today's kids. His HS school games were on ESPN quite a bit, and I remember one where Jordan was there in the front row. He was shoe company's dream then as he is now. LeBron is the animal outlier. I think there would be a few per year the shoe companies would take a flyer in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 45 minutes ago, SteveS said: The reason the shoe companies are paying the kids is not just to get in with the kids early. Adidas wants their flagship schools like Louisville and Kansas to continue their prominence in college basketball, same with Nike and Under Armor. Adidas pays Louisville $44 million, what’s a couple of hundred thousand to players to make sure Louisville is nationally relevant. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: LeBron is the animal outlier. I think there would be a few per year the shoe companies would take a flyer in. Perhaps, but in my lifetime....I have seen no other player get the type of national media coverage that James did in HS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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