Billingsley99 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, dbmhoosier said: Knight was fired right when the season was about to start. Of course Davis should've been given the interim job for 1 season and then immediately fired after the Kent St debacle. Again, much like Louisville just did. Did i miss Louisville making it to the title game. Like Davis or not IU has not sniffed a Final 4 since then. I know that he did it with Knight's team but many other coaches have never been there with their team or the previous coaches team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 I honestly don't know the answer and admittedly too lazy to look. Have and D1 coaches been let go after taking team to title game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 33 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I honestly don't know the answer and admittedly too lazy to look. Have and D1 coaches been let go after taking team to title game? Kevin Ollie from Uconn had a tenure similar to davis. And they won the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Billingsley99 said: Did i miss Louisville making it to the title game. Like Davis or not IU has not sniffed a Final 4 since then. I know that he did it with Knight's team but many other coaches have never been there with their team or the previous coaches team We did not make the title game in his interim season. We lost to lowly Kent St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: We did not make the title game in his interim season. We lost to lowly Kent St. I stand corrected we should have fired him right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 4 hours ago, rico said: Hmmmmm, then he followed that up with a run to the title game. Pretty damn good in my book As a matter of fact, IMO, he did a stellar job taking over for a legend. I have never seen a fan base like ours who would say that going to the championship game as a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I have never seen a fan base like ours who would say that going to the championship game as a bad thing. Love ya Scott. I really do. However, I have to say, that despite making it to the championship game, I was truly disappointed in the fact that IU lost a championship game for the first time. For me, I would have rather wished we had not made it to the championship game, rather than than being the only D-1 school to make it that far without a loss. I like Davis. I love you, as I just said. But.... and you can take exception to my thoughts on losing a championship game. It's something I have thought about for years. In the fact that the rest of the country no longer saw us as invincible. In the fact that we lost that game. The only time in our history.... I personally consider it a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Love ya Scott. I really do. However, I have to say, that despite making it to the championship game, I was truly disappointed in the fact that IU lost a championship game for the first time. For me, I would have rather wished we had not made it to the championship game, rather than than being the only D-1 school to make it that far without a loss. I like Davis. I love you, as I just said. But.... and you can take exception to my thoughts on losing a championship game. It's something I have thought about for years. In the fact that the rest of the country no longer saw us as invincible. In the fact that we lost that game. The only time in our history.... I personally consider it a bad thing. That was not my point but some people said making that championship game was a bad thing for the program since it kept Davis here longer. To me it is never a bad thing to have your program in the championship game. I hate losing any game but making it that far is far better than losing in the first game or not make the tournament at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 4 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: We did not make the title game in his interim season. We lost to lowly Kent St. That same lowly Kent St. that we played in the Regional Finals the very next year? Lowly my ass, that team was pretty dang good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 42 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Love ya Scott. I really do. However, I have to say, that despite making it to the championship game, I was truly disappointed in the fact that IU lost a championship game for the first time. For me, I would have rather wished we had not made it to the championship game, rather than than being the only D-1 school to make it that far without a loss. I like Davis. I love you, as I just said. But.... and you can take exception to my thoughts on losing a championship game. It's something I have thought about for years. In the fact that the rest of the country no longer saw us as invincible. In the fact that we lost that game. The only time in our history.... I personally consider it a bad thing. Don't understand that logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, rico said: That same lowly Kent St. that we played in the Regional Finals the very next year? Lowly my ass, that team was pretty dang good. We had a front line of Haston, JJ, Newton, Odle, and Leach. Coverdale, Fife, Hornsby, and Moye in the backcourt. Absolutely no excuse to lose that game. You don't give a guy like Mike Davis a top 5 job under any circumstances. Again, see Louisville. Trust me, none of the other blue bloods would have ever made that mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, rico said: That same lowly Kent St. that we played in the Regional Finals the very next year? Lowly my ass, that team was pretty dang good. They were a 13 seed when they beat us and then got smoked by 23 points in the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: They were a 13 seed when they beat us and then got smoked by 23 points in the next game. Yeah? What was Cleveland St.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, rico said: Yeah? What was Cleveland St.? or Richmond or Pepperdine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Are you guys trying to compare Mike Davis to one of the best coaches of all time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Are you guys trying to compare Mike Davis to one of the best coaches of all time? Not at all, but 1st round upsets happen to even the great ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Are you guys trying to compare Mike Davis to one of the best coaches of all time? Nope but like Rico said that upsets happens all the time, just ask UVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 15 hours ago, IU Scott said: Nope but like Rico said that upsets happens all the time, just ask UVA UVA? Kind of funny. They are linked to arguably the 2 greatest upsets in CBB history. This past year, and Chaminade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 44 minutes ago, rico said: UVA? Kind of funny. They are linked to arguably the 2 greatest upsets in CBB history. This past year, and Chaminade. It wasn’t like they just got beat on a Bryce Drew buzzer beater either. They absolutely got exposed and shredded. It doesn’t matter what they do this year they will have that hanging over them like a dark cloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 17 hours ago, IU Scott said: That was not my point but some people said making that championship game was a bad thing for the program since it kept Davis here longer. To me it is never a bad thing to have your program in the championship game. I hate losing any game but making it that far is far better than losing in the first game or not make the tournament at all. Well, Davis really did not capitalize on making the championship game for a school already with five banners. Sure he went to the NCAA the next year. But followed that up with two mediocre years.... not making it to the NCAA in either year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Well, Davis really did not capitalize on making the championship game for a school already with five banners. Sure he went to the NCAA the next year. But followed that up with two mediocre years.... not making it to the NCAA in either year. And his last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 4 hours ago, rico said: And his last year? His final year got him fired. Despite making it to the NCAA, losing by ten points in the second round to Gonzaga. By then, the writing was on the wall.It was a culmination of not being able to take advantage of a surprising run to the championship game in 2002, and not really following up on it with consecutive NCAAT appearances... unlike the coach he lost to in his final year. It had become apparent, by that time, that Davis, despite the fact that I think he has come along since IU, was not the guy that would take us all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 18 hours ago, milehiiu said: His final year got him fired. Despite making it to the NCAA, losing by ten points in the second round to Gonzaga. By then, the writing was on the wall.It was a culmination of not being able to take advantage of a surprising run to the championship game in 2002, and not really following up on it with consecutive NCAAT appearances... unlike the coach he lost to in his final year. It had become apparent, by that time, that Davis, despite the fact that I think he has come along since IU, was not the guy that would take us all the way. Blame Bracey Wright for a lot of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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