The Daily Hoosier Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Here's our take. What is yours? https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/hoosiers-at-the-crossroads-what-needs-to-change-as-a-once-promising-season-teeters/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerawkid Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Me? I keep it simple: win the next game. And then, the one after that. I know, it’s not profound, but if ever a team needed to just take it a game at a time, it’s this team and it’s right now. Everytime this team starts to find momentum and something resembling identity, there’s another damned injury. I firmly believe this most recent setback to Phin caused us some serious issues. Devonte Green running this offense is, generally, a mess. We were able to disguise the problems with wins over a couple cupcakes...but, against stiffer B10 opponents, our disjointed, listless, unorganized offensive mess was really spotlighted. Combine that with, more recently, problems on the defensive glass extending our time on defense with a short bench and tired guys. Purdue is a great chance to get things right: biggest rival, suspect quality players, suspect quality coaching...away game will make it brutal, but, and I shy away from sweeping rhetoric like this, but: this next game is as close to a “must win” as there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daily Hoosier Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, zerawkid said: Me? I keep it simple: win the next game. And then, the one after that. I know, it’s not profound, but if ever a team needed to just take it a game at a time, it’s this team and it’s right now. Everytime this team starts to find momentum and something resembling identity, there’s another damned injury. I firmly believe this most recent setback to Phin caused us some serious issues. Devonte Green running this offense is, generally, a mess. We were able to disguise the problems with wins over a couple cupcakes...but, against stiffer B10 opponents, our disjointed, listless, unorganized offensive mess was really spotlighted. Combine that with, more recently, problems on the defensive glass extending our time on defense with a short bench and tired guys. Purdue is a great chance to get things right: biggest rival, suspect quality players, suspect quality coaching...away game will make it brutal, but, and I shy away from sweeping rhetoric like this, but: this next game is as close to a “must win” as there is. Definitely agree on Phinisee. He has become the glue guy on this team. He is critical, and as I said in the story, I think he has to start to emphasize scoring the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 One simple change is all for me. Insist that Romeo becomes more selfish. He already has established himself as a team player. Both in high school and at IU. So there should be no concern by his teammates, when and if Romeo becomes more of a "me first" player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daily Hoosier Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, milehiiu said: One simple change is all for me. Insist that Romeo becomes more selfish. He already has established himself as a team player. Both in high school and at IU. So there should be no concern by his teammates, when and if Romeo becomes more of a "me first" player. Agree 100 percent and included that point. Even in being "selfish" he won't be selfish. He'll still pass the ball and create putback opportunities for everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, The Daily Hoosier said: Here's our take. What is yours? https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/hoosiers-at-the-crossroads-what-needs-to-change-as-a-once-promising-season-teeters/ i love this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg haggard Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I believe, although I have no evidence for this opinion other than SSDD, that 2, and maybe 3, and possibly even 4 guys on this team think they know more than the coaching staff. If what I believe is the case, there is NOTHING that will turn this season around. Bench em, and take whatever lumps come our way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I like your 5 items to turn the season around, TDH! Well done! Here is what I would go with... 1) Phinisee: I want the ball in his hands. As much as a 3rd scorer is really needed, what's even more needed is a 3rd playmaker. Someone besides Juwan and Langford that can create for himself and others. Phinisee is the only other guy I trust in that role, and while we weren't winning convincingly before he went out, the play did drop on both ends when he wasn't there. We need him at 100% and to continue to develop. 2) Smith: He's got to play because of his defense, but Archie has got to find a way to put him in positions to be successful offensively. Go back and watch how Troy Williams was used as a baseline slasher and a finisher, and figure out how to use Smith that way. He's useless on the perimeter with the ball and it kills the offense, the kid needs confidence and to be put in spots to be successful. That is definitely something that is on the staff. But figuring out how to use him as a weapon instead of a liability makes this team much more dangerous offensively. 3) Langford The Playmaker: Put Langford in positions to create for others. He's drawing so much attention offensively, but he's not really getting others involved. This goes back to the Smith point, but Langford not only has to score/attack, but put guys like Smith in a position to benefit from the attention Langford gets. Has Fitzner gotten a wide-open 3 off of a Langford penetration all season? Maybe the Marquette game, but playing with Juwan and Langford, he should be getting 2-3 wide open looks a game. I know he's struggled, but he's not really getting 'rhythm looks'. 4) Pace: We have athletes, we need to use them. Langford, Smith and Phinisee are great in transition. Langford is one of the best in transition in the country, and Smith is a great finisher in the open court. Let these guys run and push the pace. Walking the ball up the court when you only have two weapons allows the defense to really key in and make things difficult. We need easy baskets to get the momentum going. 5) Defense: IU needs to get back to their defensive and rebounding principles. To increase the pace (#4) you need to get stops. I think having Phinisee back will help this, and Archie also needs to emphasize team rebounding. We've been giving up too many easy baskets and too many second chance opportunities, which makes it very difficult to push the pace. We need stops, defensive rebounds and to create live-ball turnovers in order to push the pace. It's not rocket science, we need better and quicker offense, which requires getting stops/defensive rebounds in order to push pace, then the staff needs to do a better job in putting guys like Phinisee, Smith and Fitzner in a position to be successful offensively. This team is never going to accomplish much if it continues only having two offensive threats. The complimentary players need to be put in a position to be successful. We have who we have, so the focus needs to be on getting offensive confidence for Smith, Fitzner, Phinisee, Green, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 And this is why bgleas is my basketball mentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: And this is why bgleas is my basketball mentor. Where can I get one of those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Where can I get one of those? Everyone can claim B. I just find myself agreeing with him about 99 out of 100 posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, NotIThatLives said: Everyone can claim B. I just find myself agreeing with him about 99 out of 100 posts. I just hoping there was something more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 This team reminds me of when Lickliter was at Iowa. They had the strategy of holding you under 40 will win the game. They could score 50 and wanted to slow the game down and hold you defensively while not putting any priority on scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapperin LA Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Attitude!! We have to have a fire inside!! If the players are not embarrassed by their recent effort and don't come mad as a skunk, then all the diagnosis is not going to help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I think some guys that have been passing wide open shots need to shoot with confidence and make them. That will open up driving lane and give Morgan more space to operate inside. What Nebraska did was nothing special; they just did the film study well. They knew some guys wouldn't have guts to take open shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I think going forward the key to every game is scoring more than your opponent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daily Hoosier Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think going forward the key to every game is scoring more than your opponent Dang. I missed that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daily Hoosier Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, BGleas said: I like your 5 items to turn the season around, TDH! Well done! Here is what I would go with... 1) Phinisee: I want the ball in his hands. As much as a 3rd scorer is really needed, what's even more needed is a 3rd playmaker. Someone besides Juwan and Langford that can create for himself and others. Phinisee is the only other guy I trust in that role, and while we weren't winning convincingly before he went out, the play did drop on both ends when he wasn't there. We need him at 100% and to continue to develop. 2) Smith: He's got to play because of his defense, but Archie has got to find a way to put him in positions to be successful offensively. Go back and watch how Troy Williams was used as a baseline slasher and a finisher, and figure out how to use Smith that way. He's useless on the perimeter with the ball and it kills the offense, the kid needs confidence and to be put in spots to be successful. That is definitely something that is on the staff. But figuring out how to use him as a weapon instead of a liability makes this team much more dangerous offensively. 3) Langford The Playmaker: Put Langford in positions to create for others. He's drawing so much attention offensively, but he's not really getting others involved. This goes back to the Smith point, but Langford not only has to score/attack, but put guys like Smith in a position to benefit from the attention Langford gets. Has Fitzner gotten a wide-open 3 off of a Langford penetration all season? Maybe the Marquette game, but playing with Juwan and Langford, he should be getting 2-3 wide open looks a game. I know he's struggled, but he's not really getting 'rhythm looks'. 4) Pace: We have athletes, we need to use them. Langford, Smith and Phinisee are great in transition. Langford is one of the best in transition in the country, and Smith is a great finisher in the open court. Let these guys run and push the pace. Walking the ball up the court when you only have two weapons allows the defense to really key in and make things difficult. We need easy baskets to get the momentum going. 5) Defense: IU needs to get back to their defensive and rebounding principles. To increase the pace (#4) you need to get stops. I think having Phinisee back will help this, and Archie also needs to emphasize team rebounding. We've been giving up too many easy baskets and too many second chance opportunities, which makes it very difficult to push the pace. We need stops, defensive rebounds and to create live-ball turnovers in order to push the pace. It's not rocket science, we need better and quicker offense, which requires getting stops/defensive rebounds in order to push pace, then the staff needs to do a better job in putting guys like Phinisee, Smith and Fitzner in a position to be successful offensively. This team is never going to accomplish much if it continues only having two offensive threats. The complimentary players need to be put in a position to be successful. We have who we have, so the focus needs to be on getting offensive confidence for Smith, Fitzner, Phinisee, Green, etc. Great points. The live ball turnover thing is a real problem. It really got the Marquette game rolling and has been notably absent ever since, especially in January. This is a topic for another post, but a part of me wonders if the combination of this roster and the pack-line doesn't work. In other words, the pack-line, at least in my opinion is inherently passive when compared to teams that deny passing lanes. We don't have any players that I would call alpha/aggressive. Put them together, and I am starting to think that you end up with games like Michigan where we only force three turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, The Daily Hoosier said: Great points. The live ball turnover thing is a real problem. It really got the Marquette game rolling and has been notably absent ever since, especially in January. This is a topic for another post, but a part of me wonders if the combination of this roster and the pack-line doesn't work. In other words, the pack-line, at least in my opinion is inherently passive when compared to teams that deny passing lanes. We don't have any players that I would call alpha/aggressive. Put them together, and I am starting to think that you end up with games like Michigan where we only force three turnovers. Great point as well. The pack-line does a good job of forcing tough, contested shots from further out, but another issue with the roster is that we don't have the length and size in the front-court to clean the defensive glass. Fine against Marquette who didn't have anyone inside, but against teams like Michigan, Maryland and Nebraska we didn't force turnovers and we gave up second chances because we have a 6'7" guy playing center. You can't win that way against most good teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, BGleas said: Great point as well. The pack-line does a good job of forcing tough, contested shots from further out, but another issue with the roster is that we don't have the length and size in the front-court to clean the defensive glass. Fine against Marquette who didn't have anyone inside, but against teams like Michigan, Maryland and Nebraska we didn't force turnovers and we gave up second chances because we have a 6'7" guy playing center. You can't win that way against most good teams. Isn’t this another way of saying CAM is not adequately adapting to the players he has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierWATT Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1. The intangibles. Improve the following: Mental toughness. The 2002 team was good, but man were they tough-minded. I miss Coverdale and Fife. 2. Better shooting percentage. Unfortunately, the above two items are hard to improve midstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Isn’t this another way of saying CAM is not adequately adapting to the players he has? No, i was saying that against teams with talented size, we struggle to rebound and give up a lot of second chances because we don’t have talented size and length on the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 38 minutes ago, BGleas said: No, i was saying that against teams with talented size, we struggle to rebound and give up a lot of second chances because we don’t have talented size and length on the inside. Exactly right. Someone earlier was using the argument that CAM’s offensive philosophy was based on Carolina transition and that we haven’t seen that. Hard to play in transition if you can’t rebound and have to send the guards to the boards to help out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 The scoreboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Arch has to put different people in the rotation. Hell, change the starting line-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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